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[Kikapu]

You forgeting that i am working at media corporation and these news are coming out from Cyprus .I don't need link .

No Halil, I have not forgotten that you work for a media company. A true unbiased and objective news media person should only report or support facts and not politicize the facts and the news. This is where credibility of that person rests.

Yes there is a differences the way we gave the news like presidents titles... etc....etc .... this is our position . .

That is precisely why you are not able to compete as a reliable news organization with other Internationally recognise news organizations, because they have earned their reputation for reporting facts and not politicize it just to please the regime in power. This is what Free Press is all about, this is what Free Speech is all about and this is what True Democracy is all about. If you lack any of the above components when reporting news, then one does not get facts, they get "shit".

Kikapu ,
titles are not important in the content of the news .

it is not politicize kikapu , difference is both sides does not recognize each other regimes .
as a TC's we didn't elected roc president how can we call him for president of roc . we elected our president .
you can say he is not recognised by international communities it does not make any difference for me .

e.g by looking below writing people are not interesting with titles . ok some forum members does not like it the way we wrote . but rest of the world does not care . lots of well known writers also says Greek part of the Cyprus or Turkish Part of the Cyprus .what happened .people are cares only what is the content of the news .

The two leaders in Cyprus will meet on the 1st of July to evaluate the progress achieved so far by working groups and technical committees established to prepare the ground for fully-fledged negotiations between the two sides.

as a TC's we didn't elected roc president how can we call him for president of roc . we elected our president .

Sorry Halil, but you are using a very weak argument here in trying to make a point.

Did the TC's vote for George Bush, and yet you call him President don't you.?? So what is the difference calling Christofias a President, specially when he is representing a country that is recognised. The same cannot be said about the "trnc" set by International standards . Will you still not call Christofias a President if settlement was reached while he is still in office, just because the TC's did not vote for him few months ago (well, some may have done actually), or will you still continue calling Talat President, even after peace is reached. Do you see where I'm coming from Halil.??

Now, it is OK calling Talat and Christofias as leaders as their community, there is nothing wrong with that, but to call Talat a President while calling Christofias a leader of the GC's, does not earn you any credibility at all............sorry.!!

[halil]

You forgeting that i am working at media corporation and these news are coming out from Cyprus .I don't need link .

No Halil, I have not forgotten that you work for a media company. A true unbiased and objective news media person should only report or support facts and not politicize the facts and the news. This is where credibility of that person rests.

Yes there is a differences the way we gave the news like presidents titles... etc....etc .... this is our position . .

That is precisely why you are not able to compete as a reliable news organization with other Internationally recognise news organizations, because they have earned their reputation for reporting facts and not politicize it just to please the regime in power. This is what Free Press is all about, this is what Free Speech is all about and this is what True Democracy is all about. If you lack any of the above components when reporting news, then one does not get facts, they get "shit".

Kikapu ,
titles are not important in the content of the news .

it is not politicize kikapu , difference is both sides does not recognize each other regimes .
as a TC's we didn't elected roc president how can we call him for president of roc . we elected our president .
you can say he is not recognised by international communities it does not make any difference for me .

e.g by looking below writing people are not interesting with titles . ok some forum members does not like it the way we wrote . but rest of the world does not care . lots of well known writers also says Greek part of the Cyprus or Turkish Part of the Cyprus .what happened .people are cares only what is the content of the news .

The two leaders in Cyprus will meet on the 1st of July to evaluate the progress achieved so far by working groups and technical committees established to prepare the ground for fully-fledged negotiations between the two sides.

as a TC's we didn't elected roc president how can we call him for president of roc . we elected our president .

Sorry Halil, but you are using a very weak argument here in trying to make a point.

Did the TC's vote for George Bush, and yet you call him President don't you.?? So what is the difference calling Christofias a President, specially when he is representing a country that is recognised. The same cannot be said about the "trnc" set by International standards . Will you still not call Christofias a President if settlement was reached while he is still in office, just because the TC's did not vote for him few months ago (well, some may have done actually), or will you still continue calling Talat President, even after peace is reached. Do you see where I'm coming from Halil.??

Now, it is OK calling Talat and Christofias as leaders as their community, there is nothing wrong with that, but to call Talat a President while calling Christofias a leader of the GC's, does not earn you any credibility at all............sorry.!!

Kikapu ,
no one is asking any credit from you .

when the Cyprus problem is solved out things are different than present time .
for me Talat is our president and Christofias is their president Kikapu . it will be like this till we have a solution .

[Kikapu]

Kikapu ,
no one is asking any credit from you.

That's not really important Halil, whether you have asked any credit from me or not. The important thing is, you will hear what I think in how you deal with facts (or not deal) as someone who is in the news business, such as yourself, and whether or not your news organization has any credibility or not. It's up to you to present the news accurately, and if you don't, you will hear from your readers. It is called making you accountable in what you put out as news, which is different than what most of us do here, which is to give opinions, commentary, and be a critic.

for me Talat is our president and Christofias is their president Kikapu . it will be like this till we have a solution .

I never said that Christofias is your President, but it still does not excuse you from not addressing him as a President just as you do with George Bush. No one has asked you to make a choice between Talat and Christofias, although, every time you want to use the 1960 constitution to make political points that suits you, and on many occasions, you do just that, then Christofias does become your President during these arguments you make, whether you like it or not and whether you have voted for him or not, specially when the TC's were not meant to vote for the President in Cyprus in the first place, but accept him as one, regardless. You can thank the Racist and Undemocratic agreements of the 1960 Constitution for that.

[Viewpoint]

Kikapu ,
no one is asking any credit from you.

That's not really important Halil, whether you have asked any credit from me or not. The important thing is, you will hear what I think in how you deal with facts (or not deal) as someone who is in the news business, such as yourself, and whether or not your news organization has any credibility or not. It's up to you to present the news accurately, and if you don't, you will hear from your readers. It is called making you accountable in what you put out as news, which is different than what most of us do here, which is to give opinions, commentary, and be a critic.

for me Talat is our president and Christofias is their president Kikapu . it will be like this till we have a solution .

I never said that Christofias is your President, but it still does not excuse you from not addressing him as a President just as you do with George Bush. No one has asked you to make a choice between Talat and Christofias, although, every time you want to use the 1960 constitution to make political points that suits you, and on many occasions, you do just that, then Christofias does become your President during these arguments you make, whether you like it or not and whether you have voted for him or not, specially when the TC's were not meant to vote for the President in Cyprus in the first place, but accept him as one, regardless. You can thank the Racist and Undemocratic agreements of the 1960 Constitution for that.

We the TCs see him as the leader of the GC community no more no less, what the rest of world see him as is the affair not ours. If he can agree a solution without us and with the rest of the world then why doesn't he go ahead?

[Kikapu]

Kikapu ,
no one is asking any credit from you.

That's not really important Halil, whether you have asked any credit from me or not. The important thing is, you will hear what I think in how you deal with facts (or not deal) as someone who is in the news business, such as yourself, and whether or not your news organization has any credibility or not. It's up to you to present the news accurately, and if you don't, you will hear from your readers. It is called making you accountable in what you put out as news, which is different than what most of us do here, which is to give opinions, commentary, and be a critic.

for me Talat is our president and Christofias is their president Kikapu . it will be like this till we have a solution .

I never said that Christofias is your President, but it still does not excuse you from not addressing him as a President just as you do with George Bush. No one has asked you to make a choice between Talat and Christofias, although, every time you want to use the 1960 constitution to make political points that suits you, and on many occasions, you do just that, then Christofias does become your President during these arguments you make, whether you like it or not and whether you have voted for him or not, specially when the TC's were not meant to vote for the President in Cyprus in the first place, but accept him as one, regardless. You can thank the Racist and Undemocratic agreements of the 1960 Constitution for that.

We the TCs see him as the leader of the GC community no more no less, what the rest of world see him as is the affair not ours. If he can agree a solution without us and with the rest of the world then why doesn't he go ahead?

Except when you use the 1960 constitution when it suits you to make political points, then Christofias becomes your president, by default.

I'm not talking to you VP, who is just a another "person on the street" like most of us. I'm talking to Halil when he is not just another man on the street, but someone who is in the news business where he and his news organization have a duty to report facts and not politicize the news. This is the reason why his news organisation loses credibility each time they do not report facts. Halil can say anything he wants like all of us as a non news man, but the moment he wants to present us the news from the "trnc" as he calls it, then he is failing in his responsibilities, that's all.!

[Viewpoint]

Kikapu ,
no one is asking any credit from you.

That's not really important Halil, whether you have asked any credit from me or not. The important thing is, you will hear what I think in how you deal with facts (or not deal) as someone who is in the news business, such as yourself, and whether or not your news organization has any credibility or not. It's up to you to present the news accurately, and if you don't, you will hear from your readers. It is called making you accountable in what you put out as news, which is different than what most of us do here, which is to give opinions, commentary, and be a critic.

for me Talat is our president and Christofias is their president Kikapu . it will be like this till we have a solution .

I never said that Christofias is your President, but it still does not excuse you from not addressing him as a President just as you do with George Bush. No one has asked you to make a choice between Talat and Christofias, although, every time you want to use the 1960 constitution to make political points that suits you, and on many occasions, you do just that, then Christofias does become your President during these arguments you make, whether you like it or not and whether you have voted for him or not, specially when the TC's were not meant to vote for the President in Cyprus in the first place, but accept him as one, regardless. You can thank the Racist and Undemocratic agreements of the 1960 Constitution for that.

We the TCs see him as the leader of the GC community no more no less, what the rest of world see him as is the affair not ours. If he can agree a solution without us and with the rest of the world then why doesn't he go ahead?

Except when you use the 1960 constitution when it suits you to make political points, then Christofias becomes your president, by default.

I'm not talking to you VP, who is just a another "person on the street" like most of us. I'm talking to Halil when he is not just another man on the street, but someone who is in the news business where he and his news organization have a duty to report facts and not politicize the news. This is the reason why his news organisation loses credibility each time they do not report facts. Halil can say anything he wants like all of us as a non news man, but the moment he wants to present us the news from the "trnc" as he calls it, then he is failing in his responsibilities, that's all.!

Bullshit you are trying to victimize Halil who's command of the English language is not adequate to respond to you in full just as you Turkish is I believe non existent, we only return to the 1960s agreements because we are forced to by you people and off course although these agreements clearly specify that we are partners and without out us the "RoC" is defunct ed they blindly continue an important part of the whole deal the TCs.

[Kikapu]

Kikapu ,
no one is asking any credit from you.

That's not really important Halil, whether you have asked any credit from me or not. The important thing is, you will hear what I think in how you deal with facts (or not deal) as someone who is in the news business, such as yourself, and whether or not your news organization has any credibility or not. It's up to you to present the news accurately, and if you don't, you will hear from your readers. It is called making you accountable in what you put out as news, which is different than what most of us do here, which is to give opinions, commentary, and be a critic.

for me Talat is our president and Christofias is their president Kikapu . it will be like this till we have a solution .

I never said that Christofias is your President, but it still does not excuse you from not addressing him as a President just as you do with George Bush. No one has asked you to make a choice between Talat and Christofias, although, every time you want to use the 1960 constitution to make political points that suits you, and on many occasions, you do just that, then Christofias does become your President during these arguments you make, whether you like it or not and whether you have voted for him or not, specially when the TC's were not meant to vote for the President in Cyprus in the first place, but accept him as one, regardless. You can thank the Racist and Undemocratic agreements of the 1960 Constitution for that.

We the TCs see him as the leader of the GC community no more no less, what the rest of world see him as is the affair not ours. If he can agree a solution without us and with the rest of the world then why doesn't he go ahead?

Except when you use the 1960 constitution when it suits you to make political points, then Christofias becomes your president, by default.

I'm not talking to you VP, who is just a another "person on the street" like most of us. I'm talking to Halil when he is not just another man on the street, but someone who is in the news business where he and his news organization have a duty to report facts and not politicize the news. This is the reason why his news organisation loses credibility each time they do not report facts. Halil can say anything he wants like all of us as a non news man, but the moment he wants to present us the news from the "trnc" as he calls it, then he is failing in his responsibilities, that's all.!

Bullshit you are trying to victimize Halil who's command of the English language is not adequate to respond to you in full just as you Turkish is I believe non existent, we only return to the 1960s agreements because we are forced to by you people and off course although these agreements clearly specify that we are partners and without out us the "RoC" is defunct ed they blindly continue an important part of the whole deal the TCs.

No it is not Bullshit. Halil's command of the English language is not the issue and I have never taken advantage of this in our normal conversations about other issues. I'm only talking about Halil as a "newsman" and what he puts out and agrees with from BAYRAK. He is not stupid just because he lacks in some areas in his English, so stop making excuses for him, because he does not need you to speak for him, since I understand him perfectly in what he writes, so mind your own "bees wax".

Yes VP, you are such a proficient Turkish speaker and reader, that you told us in your translation from the Turkish newspaper to English, that a Turkish family was beaten up in the south, when in fact, it was their car that got banged around a little. Thanks to Iceman, he gave us the true translation, so continue with your Turkish lessons and give us the real translation next time and don't concern yourself with others ability in how much Turkish they may or may not know. You can criticize me only if I make the same blunders as you did.

Then again, perhaps they were not blunders after all.!!

[Viewpoint]

Kikapu ,
no one is asking any credit from you.

That's not really important Halil, whether you have asked any credit from me or not. The important thing is, you will hear what I think in how you deal with facts (or not deal) as someone who is in the news business, such as yourself, and whether or not your news organization has any credibility or not. It's up to you to present the news accurately, and if you don't, you will hear from your readers. It is called making you accountable in what you put out as news, which is different than what most of us do here, which is to give opinions, commentary, and be a critic.

for me Talat is our president and Christofias is their president Kikapu . it will be like this till we have a solution .

I never said that Christofias is your President, but it still does not excuse you from not addressing him as a President just as you do with George Bush. No one has asked you to make a choice between Talat and Christofias, although, every time you want to use the 1960 constitution to make political points that suits you, and on many occasions, you do just that, then Christofias does become your President during these arguments you make, whether you like it or not and whether you have voted for him or not, specially when the TC's were not meant to vote for the President in Cyprus in the first place, but accept him as one, regardless. You can thank the Racist and Undemocratic agreements of the 1960 Constitution for that.

We the TCs see him as the leader of the GC community no more no less, what the rest of world see him as is the affair not ours. If he can agree a solution without us and with the rest of the world then why doesn't he go ahead?

Except when you use the 1960 constitution when it suits you to make political points, then Christofias becomes your president, by default.

I'm not talking to you VP, who is just a another "person on the street" like most of us. I'm talking to Halil when he is not just another man on the street, but someone who is in the news business where he and his news organization have a duty to report facts and not politicize the news. This is the reason why his news organisation loses credibility each time they do not report facts. Halil can say anything he wants like all of us as a non news man, but the moment he wants to present us the news from the "trnc" as he calls it, then he is failing in his responsibilities, that's all.!

Bullshit you are trying to victimize Halil who's command of the English language is not adequate to respond to you in full just as you Turkish is I believe non existent, we only return to the 1960s agreements because we are forced to by you people and off course although these agreements clearly specify that we are partners and without out us the "RoC" is defunct ed they blindly continue an important part of the whole deal the TCs.

No it is not Bullshit. Halil's command of the English language is not the issue and I have never taken advantage of this in our normal conversations about other issues. I'm only talking about Halil as a "newsman" and what he puts out and agrees with from BAYRAK. He is not stupid just because he lacks in some areas in his English, so stop making excuses for him, because he does not need you to speak for him, since I understand him perfectly in what he writes, so mind your own "bees wax".

Yes VP, you are such a proficient Turkish speaker and reader, that you told us in your translation from the Turkish newspaper to English, that a Turkish family was beaten up in the south, when in fact, it was their car that got banged around a little. Thanks to Iceman, he gave us the true translation, so continue with your Turkish lessons and give us the real translation next time and don't concern yourself with others ability in how much Turkish they may or may not know. You can criticize me only if I make the same blunders as you did.

Then again, perhaps they were not blunders after all.!!

Man there you go again you really need an ego check, you play judge and jury then believe your own version as if its the gospel, well mate sorry to burst your bubble it aint always right.

[Kikapu]

Man there you go again you really need an ego check, you play judge and jury then believe your own version as if its the gospel, well mate sorry to burst your bubble it aint always right.

One can never get enough stroking, whether it is their ego or something else.

So VP, which part of my last post did you find not to be the "Gospel Truth".??

[Viewpoint]

Man there you go again you really need an ego check, you play judge and jury then believe your own version as if its the gospel, well mate sorry to burst your bubble it aint always right.

One can never get enough stroking, whether it is their ego or something else.

So VP, which part of my last post did you find not to be the "Gospel Truth".??

All of it, you probably still think you created the big mountains.