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Postby Viewpoint » Tue Jun 17, 2008 8:26 pm

I thought the GCs claimed there was no isolation, funny how the EU sees it differently.
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Postby humanist » Tue Jun 17, 2008 11:56 pm

poor VP he feels isolated,
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Postby Viewpoint » Wed Jun 18, 2008 8:06 am

humanist wrote:poor VP he feels isolated,


Hello the TRNC is isolated but the GCs do not accept this fact tells you a great deal about GC mentality.
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Postby Kikapu » Wed Jun 18, 2008 1:22 pm

Viewpoint wrote:I thought the GCs claimed there was no isolation, funny how the EU sees it differently.


It also called for trade across the "so-called Green Line" and not across any BORDERS, which means VP, that there is only one country in Cyprus, hence the fact, there can be no BORDERS and hence the fact, the UN has not used the word BORDERS, which is why the "so-called Green Line" was used.

Have you gotten the message yet, or do you need for me to draw you a picture to explain them to you v-e-r-y s-l-o-w-l-y.??
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Postby Viewpoint » Wed Jun 18, 2008 1:46 pm

Kikapu wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:I thought the GCs claimed there was no isolation, funny how the EU sees it differently.


It also called for trade across the "so-called Green Line" and not across any BORDERS, which means VP, that there is only one country in Cyprus, hence the fact, there can be no BORDERS and hence the fact, the UN has not used the word BORDERS, which is why the "so-called Green Line" was used.

Have you gotten the message yet, or do you need for me to draw you a picture to explain them to you v-e-r-y s-l-o-w-l-y.??


One step at a time my GC sympathiser, today the border called the Green line tomorrow the world, would that make you feel terribly ill allowing the world to treat us as equals?
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Postby Kikapu » Wed Jun 18, 2008 9:07 pm

Viewpoint wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:I thought the GCs claimed there was no isolation, funny how the EU sees it differently.


It also called for trade across the "so-called Green Line" and not across any BORDERS, which means VP, that there is only one country in Cyprus, hence the fact, there can be no BORDERS and hence the fact, the UN has not used the word BORDERS, which is why the "so-called Green Line" was used.

Have you gotten the message yet, or do you need for me to draw you a picture to explain them to you v-e-r-y s-l-o-w-l-y.??


One step at a time my GC sympathiser, today the border called the Green line tomorrow the world, would that make you feel terribly ill allowing the world to treat us as equals?


:lol: :lol: :lol:

By the sound of it, I think you have visited "Fantasy Land" way too many time in Disneyland. :lol: :lol:

I hope I have made you feel at home with the picture below.

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Postby Kikapu » Wed Jun 18, 2008 10:26 pm

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The Associated PressPublished: June 17, 2008

Turkey expects France to be fair negotiator in EU entry talks


LUXEMBOURG: France should conduct EU entry talks with Turkey in a fair and impartial way, despite Paris' opposition to its membership bid, Turkey's foreign minister said Tuesday.

France will take over the EU's six-month presidency in July, during which it will lead negotiations with Turkey.

"We believe that our EU accession process will be further advanced during the French presidency," Turkish Foreign Minister Ali Babacan told reporters after talks with EU officials.

He said Turkey was ready now, thanks to adopted reforms, to further widen negotiations in key economic policy areas that go to the heart of membership, notably participating in the EU's barrier-free single market.

"Our expectations from the EU side is to honor its commitments to Turkey ... to proceed in a fair and sustainable manner," Babacan said. "We expect that the French presidency will be a fair, impartial and transparent presidency term. Turkey will expect to join the union as an equal partner with all the rights and obligations this would imply."

French President Nicolas Sarkozy is against Turkey joining the 27-nation bloc, and French diplomats have managed to stall negotiations in five policy areas that directly concern its accession into the EU.

Sarkozy has suggested Turkey be offered a special partnership instead of full membership. France is wary of letting a relatively poor and overwhelmingly Muslim nation of more than 70 million people into the EU.

French lawmakers, however, are moving to reject a law requiring a referendum in France on countries that want to join the EU — a condition never before imposed on an EU candidate.

Negotiations in other areas have continued, but are on a slow track because of the long simmering dispute over divided Cyprus. Negotiations on Cyprus-related issues will not open until Turkey allows Greek Cypriot planes and vessels to use Turkish ports and airports.

EU officials have also expressed concern over a legal bid to ban Turkey's ruling Islamic-oriented Justice and Development Party on the grounds it erodes the country's secular ideals.

Slovenian Foreign Minister Dimitrij Rupel, whose country currently holds the EU presidency, said the two sides opened talks Tuesday in intellectual property rights law and company law.

EU officials said talks in the two areas would help fight counterfeit goods and bring into line Turkish legislation with EU standards on mergers and related business rules.

"This is going to be a long process, but hopefully not too long," Rupel said.

He urged Babacan to ensure Turkey continue political reforms to improve democratic and human rights in Turkey, which remains a problematic area of Turkey's entry bid.

EU officials said another seven policy chapters are waiting to be opened for negotiations, as soon as Turkey meets minimum reform standards. The new policy areas up for negotiations include food safety, taxation, employment, public procurement and the environment.

Turkey has opened talks in eight policy areas so far, after talks were launched in October 2005. Turkey has to bring its national standards into line with 35 EU policy chapters. Officials say such talks are expected to last years because of the massive amount of reforms that need to be implemented by Turkey and the opposition from many EU nations against Turkey joining.

http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2008/06/ ... Turkey.php
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Postby Kikapu » Fri Jun 20, 2008 10:49 am

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The Associated PressPublished: June 19, 2008

Cypriot leader urges Turkey to stop meddling in Cyprus reunification talks


BRUSSELS, Belgium: Cypriot President Dimitris Christofias said Thursday that meddling by Turkey is harming efforts to end the 34-year division of Cyprus between Greek and Turkish Cypriots.

Christofias said Turkish Cypriot leader Mehmet Ali Talat should be allowed to negotiate independently without having to check with Ankara for final approval.

"The continuation of the status quo is harming ... all Cypriots," Christofias said. "So I request Mahmet Talat to sit together without any commitments from the outside, from foreign countries and forces."

Cyprus was split into a breakaway Turkish Cypriot north and an internationally recognized Greek Cypriot south in 1974, when Turkey invaded in response to an abortive coup that aimed to unite the island with Greece.

As a gesture of goodwill, Turkey should remove half its 43,000 troops from northern Cyprus, Christofias said.

"We could really as soon as possible solve the problem, but ... unfortunately we are dependent on the will of Turkey. Turkey is key. A country which has in Cyprus 43,000 well armed soldiers has to take some decisions," Christofias said.

Christofias said Turkey should drop its demand to remain a "guarantor" of the security of Turkish Cypriots, saying that once a reunification deal is reached the European Union would guarantee the rights of ethnic Turks on the island.

Christofias said he planned to meet with Talat this month and next to prepare for full-scale reunification negotiations.

He said main sticking points remain property rights, security arrangements for both communities and how to share power under a federal state.

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Postby Viewpoint » Fri Jun 20, 2008 11:02 am

You better believe it, Turkey is our only ally and we will not go anywhere without them. :wink:
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Postby halil » Fri Jun 20, 2008 11:20 am

Yes Kikapu let the people to hear what TRNC side says in these days.



TRNC PM SOYER SAYS THE CYPRUS PROBLEM SHOULD BE SOLVED ON THE BASIS OF POLITICAL EQUALITY[b]

The TRNC Prime Minister Ferdi Sabit Soyer has said the Cyprus issue should be solved on the basis of political equality and that the Turkish Cypriot People should take its place within the European Union and international politics as an equal partner.
The Premier also called on the United Nations to appoint an arbitrator to start a new negotiations process between the two sides.

In a statement on Thursday, Mr Soyer referred to the Greek Cypriot Side’s unilateral membership to the European Union, a move which he said, diminished the Greek Cypriot leaders’ interest to the solution of the Cyprus problem.

But, Mr Soyer said that his government – under the leadership of President Mehmet Ali Talat will continue its efforts towards finding an immediate, comprehensive and mutually acceptable solution to the Cyprus problem.

He also expressed the hope that fully-fledged negotiations between the two sides would soon be resumed.

President Mehmet Ali Talat and Greek Cypriot Leader Demetris Christofias are expected to meet again next week to review the work being carried out by working groups and technical committees established to prepare the ground for substantial talks.

FM AVCI IS HAVING BILATERAL CONTACTS IN UGANDA

Deputy Prime Minister-Foreign Minister Turgay Avcı - who is also in Kampala for the 35th session of the Council of Foreign Ministers of the Organization of Islamic Conference – is having bilateral discussions with foreign dignitaries.

Mr Avcı met with his Nigerian counterpart Tiyani Kaura.

During their discussions, the two Foreign Ministers agreed to expand existing cooperation between the two countries in the field of higher education to other fields.

The Cyprus issue was also among the issues discussed between the two ministers.

Mr Kaura told Mr Avcı that his country would follow the developments concerning the Cyprus issue more closely and would show sensitivity to the issue both at the United Nations and the OIC.

Later, Foreign Minister Avcı met the head of the delegation from Oman Said Ali Salim Al-Kalbani.

The two men agreed to work on ways of improving further bilateral ties between the two countries.

Yesterday, the General Secretary of the Organization of the Islamic Conference Ekmelettin Ihsanoğlu expressed the OIC’s support to a solution in Cyprus.

In an opening address at the 35th session of the Council of Foreign Ministers, Mr Ihsanoğlu said that the OIC is closely following the new process launched in Cyprus with the aim of bringing about a comprehensive solution to the Cyprus problem.

He also expressed satisfaction over improving relations between the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus and OIC member countries.






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