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[Viewpoint]

Viewpoint,the so-called 'TRNC' isn't even a proper country,as it is Turkey's pirate state.The so-called 'TRNC' has the same legal standing as Abkhazia & Transdniester - ILLEGAL!

Aidan.

Is it in place? do yo have to show passports hen crossing, do we have our own police? schools* MP, president, recognition may be missing but all the other factors are in place and closing your eyes to our existence is part of the problem and unless you acknowledge that we are here and we to have the right to share this island without being dominated and controlled purely by GCs.

Actually VP, most of all the provisions you have stated for the "TRNC" to be considered as a "country" can also be found in any large PRISON, with one major difference, that the PRISON is recognised as being what it is.

Label it what you will using your twisted and biased mentality, doesnt change the reality that the TRNC can only be negotiated away, otherwise you will continue to perpetuate more of the last 45 years and the only culprit is people like you.

Can you provide a unbiased link to the definition/blueprint "True Federation" you keep referring to as you seem to avoid acknowledging there are many shades of Federation which suit the historical background of each country concerned.

[observer]

There is only one land mass called Cyprus.

For the last 34 years however - longer than most of the people living here can remember - there have been two separate political entities. Arguably it has been longer than 34 years. The way that they separated caused emnity and distrust on both sides. That is the reality, and to ignore the fact is to refuse to take the first step to solving the problem.

It doesn't matter who was at fault, who is legal or illegal, how big Oracles print is (annoying habit), who is pseudo or who is not. Unless the majority of TCs and GCs agree to a negotiated solution, partition is inevitable.

I wish Talat and Christofias all the best in their negotiations. I hope all TCs and GCs are willing to accept the compromises that will inevitably be necessary.

[alexISS]

How many of you are in agreement with me on this statement?;

THERE'S ONLY ONE CYPRUS - NEITHER GREEK NOR TURKISH,BUT CYPRIOT!

Aidan.

And it's certainly NOT British

AlexISS,of course,Cyprus isn't British,but it is part of the British Commonwealth anyway! The Sovereign Base Areas ARE British anyway!

Aidan.

The commonwealth is nothing more than an organization that has no political extentions. Its only purpose is to ease the pain caused to some by the loss of the former British Empire. As for the SBAs, they were supposed to be rented to the British, how many months' rent do they owe?

[Kikapu]

Viewpoint,the so-called 'TRNC' isn't even a proper country,as it is Turkey's pirate state.The so-called 'TRNC' has the same legal standing as Abkhazia & Transdniester - ILLEGAL!

Aidan.

Is it in place? do yo have to show passports hen crossing, do we have our own police? schools* MP, president, recognition may be missing but all the other factors are in place and closing your eyes to our existence is part of the problem and unless you acknowledge that we are here and we to have the right to share this island without being dominated and controlled purely by GCs.

Actually VP, most of all the provisions you have stated for the "TRNC" to be considered as a "country" can also be found in any large PRISON, with one major difference, that the PRISON is recognised as being what it is.

Label it what you will using your twisted and biased mentality, doesnt change the reality that the TRNC can only be negotiated away, otherwise you will continue to perpetuate more of the last 45 years and the only culprit is people like you.

Can you provide a unbiased link to the definition/blueprint "True Federation" you keep referring to as you seem to avoid acknowledging there are many shades of Federation which suit the historical background of each country concerned.

True Federation USA style..............I'm sure you already know what that is. It is the only fair way to keep the North under mostly TC's and the South mostly under GC's but free to move anyplace one wishes with a strong Central government with all protections of all citizens protected under the Federal Government.

But VP, you are not even interested a Federation of any kind. If you did, then you will not be asking for the BBF, which is not a Federation at all. It should be called BBC which would make the "C" it into a Confederation, but guess what, the only way to have a Confederation, was through the Annan Plan back in 2004 and "Virgin Birth" concept now. How else can you justify a Confederation, because the way things are now, does not constitute the North as a Confederate State...No sir, it does not.

I live in a Confederate states in Switzerland and we do not have any problems at all and the country functions just fine. The only difference is, every Canton belonged to those who lived in them prior to joining the Confoederatio Helvetica (CH), Switzerland. All citizens are free to move around the country as many and as much as they like.

[repulsewarrior]

Neither the "Greeks" or the "Turks" have a right to call the island "theirs". Cyprus and those who dwell upon it have a history which is much older, and as its steward they have a responsibility which is higher, to the rest of Mankind, and the world.

[bill cobbett]

How many of you are in agreement with me on this statement?;

THERE'S ONLY ONE CYPRUS - NEITHER GREEK NOR TURKISH,BUT CYPRIOT!

Aidan.

Rightonbrother/sister!

[Expatkiwi]

The Swiss solution may sound ideal, but given the emnity between the Greeks and Turks, I really don't see it working in Cyprus. In any case, Aidan, your statement sounds ideal, but neither side think of themselves as Cypriot first, and until they do, there will be no 'Cypriot Identity'.

[BC Numismatics]

Dean,a federal system based loosely on the Australian & Canadian systems would be a better system to use to build an all-Cyprus federation.

Aidan.