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Postby observer » Wed Mar 05, 2008 3:15 pm

I don't know what Talat told Papadopoulos (forgot, Papadopoulos wouldn't speak to him) but I have been saying for months that there are no soldiers posted on the TRNC side. For a while there wasn't even a wall.

It has long been my belief that Papadopolous took down his wall (only to build a new one the next day) so that he could get rid of the viewing platform on the GC side at the same time. It was rather funny having tourists go to the wall after being told all about the terrible Turks dividing the island, only to see no wall on the other side, a banner asking the GCs to take down the wall, and the security on the TC side being a policeman sitting on a chair reading a newspaper! It rather spoilt Papadopolous' message.

If you were there at the right time you might see a landrover with soldiers in it drive along, but I wonder how long the photographer had to wait. I've never seen one, though I admit I don't go there very often.

Also, humanist, be a little braver. Flags are not in the slightest bit intimidating. I pass by the Greek flag every time I walk through the Ledra Palace Crossing. It hasn't bitten me once. But I would like to point out (and I mentioned it about 3 or 4 months ago) that on the customs building there are two flag poles but the one where there should be a RoC flag is still empty, and only a Greek flag is flying. I suggested then that someone should tell your President as it gives a bad impression.
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Postby halil » Wed Mar 05, 2008 3:27 pm

According to the CyBC last night, the government has put forward four points regarding the opening of Ledra Street.

The first is for the United Nations to have control over the checkpoint.

A second is that under no circumstance should Turkish troops be able to cross Ledra Street in any way.

Another point was the renovation of the old buildings either side of the checkpoint for the safety of the public. The Cyprus government’s position is for both communities to take on the project in collaboration, under the umbrella of the UN, through its UNDP programme.

And finally the desire to work on the opening of Limnitis was reiterated.


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i don't think that Turkish Cypriot side will except this point:The first is for the United Nations to have control over the checkpoint. Turkish side will not excep without checking the identifacations of the poeple .
they find the ways that the soldiers can not patrol at that area . İt is very easy to do . this is the my personal observation . i am saying this because i know the area .
to repair the buildings will not effect the people movement . remember , the conditions of the leadra palace gate when it was opened . i bet in a week time they can repair and cleand area . they can easily closed the military posts from both side that civilians will not see them.
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Postby observer » Wed Mar 05, 2008 3:43 pm

I'm not sure if there are now enough UN people on the Island to do the job, and it seems to me that the UN wouldn't want it anyway. I suppose they could hire TCs and GCs and give them light blue hats, but that would seem to defeat the aim. What happened to the gcs offer to open the barrier without preconditions?
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Postby DT. » Wed Mar 05, 2008 3:48 pm

observer wrote:I'm not sure if there are now enough UN people on the Island to do the job, and it seems to me that the UN wouldn't want it anyway. I suppose they could hire TCs and GCs and give them light blue hats, but that would seem to defeat the aim. What happened to the gcs offer to open the barrier without preconditions?

still there....
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Postby observer » Wed Mar 05, 2008 4:02 pm

DT. wrote:
observer wrote:I'm not sure if there are now enough UN people on the Island to do the job, and it seems to me that the UN wouldn't want it anyway. I suppose they could hire TCs and GCs and give them light blue hats, but that would seem to defeat the aim. What happened to the gcs offer to open the barrier without preconditions?

still there....


The first is for the United Nations to have control over the checkpoint.

Are there now two RoC governments, or just confusion in one government?
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Postby DT. » Wed Mar 05, 2008 4:04 pm

observer wrote:
DT. wrote:
observer wrote:I'm not sure if there are now enough UN people on the Island to do the job, and it seems to me that the UN wouldn't want it anyway. I suppose they could hire TCs and GCs and give them light blue hats, but that would seem to defeat the aim. What happened to the gcs offer to open the barrier without preconditions?

still there....


The first is for the United Nations to have control over the checkpoint.

Are there now two RoC governments, or just confusion in one government?


COmmon sense is not a pre-condition.
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Postby observer » Wed Mar 05, 2008 4:07 pm

And the reason for this commonsense that exists at no other crossing is ...
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Postby DT. » Wed Mar 05, 2008 4:09 pm

observer wrote:And the reason for this commonsense that exists at no other crossing is ...


This is the busiest shopping street in the centre of town. I'm sure the ENglish wouldn't appreciate Turkish troops in Oxford Street either.
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Postby observer » Wed Mar 05, 2008 4:15 pm

As I and Halill continually tell you, there are no soldiers posted on the TRNC side. The picture that has been postedshows soldiers driving along the green line to another place to avoid driving through a pedestrian only place. Halil is of the opinion that they can go another way. I agree.
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Postby DT. » Wed Mar 05, 2008 4:17 pm

observer wrote:As I and Halill continually tell you, there are no soldiers posted on the TRNC side, only those driving through to another place to avoid driving through a pedestrian only place. Halil is of the opinion that they can go another way. I agree.


then whats the problem with the common sense/ pre-condition.
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