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DT

You bet its sarcastic Observer because it past the point where it was objectionable to us,, years ago. WHats 100,000 settlers whats 150,000 settlers? Same thing. The only people that seem to care how many there are, are annoyed TC's. Its strange how you downgrade the problem to one of seasonal workers and students when TC's (some on this forum) find these settlers to be outnumbering TC's. And its not just one or two journo's nearly all papers except for Volkan and some other radical ones have complained at some point or another at the number of settlers brought over.

You can't get away from the fact that changing places names and importing replacement inhabitants to these places is a medieval practise in which very few countries in this day and age could contemplate doing.

Are you not in the slightest appalled by this action?

The real figure is about 40,000. Yes, people complain about them (I have heard similar complaints about Pontian Greeks from GCs). On this forum there have been similar complaints about immigrants to UK from people living in Britain.

They were not "brought over" as you put it, except in the sense that Turkey was a great deal poorer in the early 70s than it is now, and Turkish workers migrated all over Europe. There are more Turkish people in Berlin than there are in TRNC. There are certainly more in Germany.

As for changing place names, many places already had Turkish names, which were often different to Greek names. Other place names, where there was not a Turkish name, were changed as it was not very sensible to keep a Greek name when everyone living there spoke Turkish. I can't recall seeing a road sign to Baf (Pafos) for example - do TCs complain that you've changed all the place names?

[alexISS]

Maybe the TRNC government should do what the ROC government did to the GC's and offer €25,000 to those TC families who are willing to have a 3rd baby and so boost the population?

A similar measure is in effect in Greece where, as in Cyprus and all other developed countries, the birthrate is dropping. Turkey and the "TRNC" face no such problems, but I'm sure noone would mind if the "TRNC" did the same instead of importing settlers

[DT.]

DT

You bet its sarcastic Observer because it past the point where it was objectionable to us,, years ago. WHats 100,000 settlers whats 150,000 settlers? Same thing. The only people that seem to care how many there are, are annoyed TC's. Its strange how you downgrade the problem to one of seasonal workers and students when TC's (some on this forum) find these settlers to be outnumbering TC's. And its not just one or two journo's nearly all papers except for Volkan and some other radical ones have complained at some point or another at the number of settlers brought over.

You can't get away from the fact that changing places names and importing replacement inhabitants to these places is a medieval practise in which very few countries in this day and age could contemplate doing.

Are you not in the slightest appalled by this action?

The real figure is about 40,000. Yes, people complain about them (I have heard similar complaints about Pontian Greeks from GCs). On this forum there have been similar complaints about immigrants to UK from people living in Britain.

They were not "brought over" as you put it, except in the sense that Turkey was a great deal poorer in the early 70s than it is now, and Turkish workers migrated all over Europe. There are more Turkish people in Berlin than there are in TRNC. There are certainly more in Germany.

As for changing place names, many places already had Turkish names, which were often different to Greek names. Other place names, where there was not a Turkish name, were changed as it was not very sensible to keep a Greek name when everyone living there spoke Turkish. I can't recall seeing a road sign to Baf (Pafos) for example - do TCs complain that you've changed all the place names?

Buses leaving from Trabzon for re-population then are all myths?

[denizaksulu]

DT

You bet its sarcastic Observer because it past the point where it was objectionable to us,, years ago. WHats 100,000 settlers whats 150,000 settlers? Same thing. The only people that seem to care how many there are, are annoyed TC's. Its strange how you downgrade the problem to one of seasonal workers and students when TC's (some on this forum) find these settlers to be outnumbering TC's. And its not just one or two journo's nearly all papers except for Volkan and some other radical ones have complained at some point or another at the number of settlers brought over.

You can't get away from the fact that changing places names and importing replacement inhabitants to these places is a medieval practise in which very few countries in this day and age could contemplate doing.

Are you not in the slightest appalled by this action?

The real figure is about 40,000. Yes, people complain about them (I have heard similar complaints about Pontian Greeks from GCs). On this forum there have been similar complaints about immigrants to UK from people living in Britain.

They were not "brought over" as you put it, except in the sense that Turkey was a great deal poorer in the early 70s than it is now, and Turkish workers migrated all over Europe. There are more Turkish people in Berlin than there are in TRNC. There are certainly more in Germany.

As for changing place names, many places already had Turkish names, which were often different to Greek names. Other place names, where there was not a Turkish name, were changed as it was not very sensible to keep a Greek name when everyone living there spoke Turkish. I can't recall seeing a road sign to Baf (Pafos) for example - do TCs complain that you've changed all the place names?

Buses leaving from Trabzon for re-population then are all myths?

They are mostly Pontians, whats the problem? I've seen them light their candles at Apostolos Andreas. You ought to be happy.

[Get Real!]

I can't recall seeing a road sign to Baf (Pafos) for example - do TCs complain that you've changed all the place names?

Hello? Greek has been the official language in Cyprus since around 1500BC… where have you been all these millenniums?

[Oracle]

I can't recall seeing a road sign to Baf (Pafos) for example - do TCs complain that you've changed all the place names?

Hello? Greek has been the official language in Cyprus since around 1500BC… where have you been all these millenniums?

Mongolia mostly! .... until they blighted our shores .....

[Bananiot]

What do you have against Mongols?

P.S. Greek fascists use this term when they refer to Turks.

[Oracle]

What do you have against Mongols?

P.S. Greek fascists use this term when they refer to Turks.

I have nothing against Mongolians ... I merely pointed out the Turks came from Mongolia .... see below

Oooohhh I see where your mind is going ..... associating anyone with Turks is insulting ... silly me!

Sorry Mongolians ... we are not blaming you, you cannot help what they have done since they left Mongolia.

Bananiot, you seem to know a lot about the workings of fascists ... is it merely a hobby or a passion or an obsession ?

HISTORY OF THE MONGOLS
The Mongol eruption
Turks and Mongols: 6th - 13th century AD

The high plateau of Mongolia, east of the Altai mountains, is rivalled only by Scandinavia as a region from which successive waves of tribesmen have emerged to prey upon more sedentary neighbours. Mongolia is the original homeland of both Turks and Mongols, two groups much intermingled in history and loosely related in their languages.

Mongolia is an ideal starting point for the movement of nomadic tribes in search of new pastures, and for sudden excursions of a more predatory nature. It lies at the extreme end of an unbroken range of open grasslands, the steppes, which reach all the way to Europe. Horsemen can move fast along the steppes. South of this nomadic highway live rich settled communities.

The emergence of the Turks from Mongolia is a gradual and uncharted process. Each successive wave makes its first appearance in history only when Turkish tribes or warriors acquire power in some new region, whether they be the Khazars, the Seljuks or one of many other such groups.

The sudden eruption of the Mongols from their homeland is different. Their astonishing expansion, spanning the breadth of Asia, can be precisely dated (to the early years of the 13th century) and can be attributed to the military genius of one man - born with the name of Temujin, but known now as Genghis Khan.

[Bananiot]

What you copied/paste refers to Mongols, not Mongolians. May be it's another name for Down Syndrome?

[Oracle]

What you copied/paste refers to Mongols, not Mongolians. May be it's another name for Down Syndrome?

It's the equivalent of Brits and British ......shortened form

I have not seen mention of Mongols with reference to Down's Syndrome in over 20 years ... you do harbour some daft ideas!