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[alexISS]

Turkish Cypriot daily Ortam newspaper (17.01.08 ), under the title “18 thousand new citizens for the TRNC”, reports that the “real meaning” of the long lines created in front of the so-called embassy of Turkey in the occupied part of Nicosia has been revealed. The paper writes that the breakaway regime wants to grant the “citizenship of the TRNC” to 18 thousand persons from Turkey at the first stage and that the total number of the persons who will take the “citizenship” will gradually reach 50 thousands.

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[observer]

Oracle

Observer, if you care to observe, the size of the print is the same.

If words are in bold it is to accentuate, much as you would in speech ..... or are you monotonous?

Your "arrivals" in the "TRNC" are about as legal as the presence of the Turkish Troops!

Only using bold is an improvement.

People come. People go. Surely you wouldn't want us to be isolated.

[Oracle]

Oracle

Observer, if you care to observe, the size of the print is the same.

If words are in bold it is to accentuate, much as you would in speech ..... or are you monotonous?

Your "arrivals" in the "TRNC" are about as legal as the presence of the Turkish Troops!

Only using bold is an improvement.

People come. People go. Surely you wouldn't want us to be isolated.

I'll take that as rhetorical .... because I do not want to spoil the afternoon by telling you what I want you to be .....

[observer]

Turkish Cypriot daily Ortam newspaper (17.01.08 ), under the title “18 thousand new citizens for the TRNC”, reports that the “real meaning” of the long lines created in front of the so-called embassy of Turkey in the occupied part of Nicosia has been revealed. The paper writes that the breakaway regime wants to grant the “citizenship of the TRNC” to 18 thousand persons from Turkey at the first stage and that the total number of the persons who will take the “citizenship” will gradually reach 50 thousands.

http://www.cyprus-forum.com/viewtopic.p ... 3283224980

I've been googling this, and I can find no other reference to it tahn on this site and one quoted newspaper. Nothing has come of it. I suspect it is an isolated and probably untrue rumour. Never believe everything you read it a newspaper. There has been no follow up story, and on one this big you would expect it.

The other thing that makes me wonder is that it talks about lines outside theTurkish embassy (lines I've not seen when I drive by). Why go to the Turkish embassy? If it were to the Ministry of Immigration it might make sense.

It also goes against the 60 or so people who have been made TRNC citizenship in the last 3 years and the large number who have had their citizenship removed because it was granted irregularily in the Denktas years.

[alexISS]

Turkish Cypriot daily Ortam newspaper (17.01.08 ), under the title “18 thousand new citizens for the TRNC”, reports that the “real meaning” of the long lines created in front of the so-called embassy of Turkey in the occupied part of Nicosia has been revealed. The paper writes that the breakaway regime wants to grant the “citizenship of the TRNC” to 18 thousand persons from Turkey at the first stage and that the total number of the persons who will take the “citizenship” will gradually reach 50 thousands.

http://www.cyprus-forum.com/viewtopic.p ... 3283224980

I've been googling this, and I can find no other reference to it tahn on this site and one quoted newspaper. Nothing has come of it. I suspect it is an isolated and probably untrue rumour. Never believe everything you read it a newspaper. There has been no follow up story, and on one this big you would expect it.

The other thing that makes me wonder is that it talks about lines outside theTurkish embassy (lines I've not seen when I drive by). Why go to the Turkish embassy? If it were to the Ministry of Immigration it might make sense.

It also goes against the 60 or so people who have been made TRNC citizenship in the last 3 years and the large number who have had their citizenship removed because it was granted irregularily in the Denktas years.

It's a Turkish Cypriot newspaper, and it's not like there is anyone that really knows what's happening in occupied Cyprus, it's a Turkish protectorate and they can do whatever they want with it. Of course they have established a "formal" procedure of visa issuing etc but, should need arise, there's nothing stopping them from issuing a "firman" that orders the "TRNC authorities" to give citizenship to as many Turks as necessary

[observer]

so after 34 years of doing it you've now stopped. Whoop-de-doo.

Whats funny though is the amount of journo's from the north who keep writing about the constant settlers arrival and keep blaming talat's admin for the mess. They don't think its stopped and we're not just talking about Levent.

To be pedantic, only 30 years, and in reality, nearly all of it happened in the first few years after 1974.

I hope your whoop-de-dooo is not sarcastic. I thought you would be pleased that it's stopped.

It is quite possible that there seem to be, and maybe are, more Turkish citizens in the North. The university population has increased, all on students visas and they will return when their studies are complete. There are probably more workers from Turkey, partially to replace TCs who now work in the South, and partially because there has been a boom in the building sector and more employment opportunities. They are on work visas and will return when their visas run out.

I don't think that Levent or other journos will be examining passports to find out if they have been given TRNC citizenship, are tourists, students or temporary workers.

[observer]

Turkish Cypriot daily Ortam newspaper (17.01.08 ), under the title “18 thousand new citizens for the TRNC”, reports that the “real meaning” of the long lines created in front of the so-called embassy of Turkey in the occupied part of Nicosia has been revealed. The paper writes that the breakaway regime wants to grant the “citizenship of the TRNC” to 18 thousand persons from Turkey at the first stage and that the total number of the persons who will take the “citizenship” will gradually reach 50 thousands.

http://www.cyprus-forum.com/viewtopic.p ... 3283224980

I've been googling this, and I can find no other reference to it tahn on this site and one quoted newspaper. Nothing has come of it. I suspect it is an isolated and probably untrue rumour. Never believe everything you read it a newspaper. There has been no follow up story, and on one this big you would expect it.

The other thing that makes me wonder is that it talks about lines outside theTurkish embassy (lines I've not seen when I drive by). Why go to the Turkish embassy? If it were to the Ministry of Immigration it might make sense.

It also goes against the 60 or so people who have been made TRNC citizenship in the last 3 years and the large number who have had their citizenship removed because it was granted irregularily in the Denktas years.

It's a Turkish Cypriot newspaper, and it's not like there is anyone that really knows what's happening in occupied Cyprus, it's a Turkish protectorate and they can do whatever they want with it. Of course they have established a "formal" procedure of visa issuing etc but, should need arise, there's nothing stopping them from issuing a "firman" that orders the "TRNC authorities" to give citizenship to as many Turks as necessary

I sense twisted logic.

"it's not like there is anyone that really knows what's happening in occupied Cyprus" so this story must be true.

"it's a Turkish protectorate and they can do whatever they want with it" except, apparently, stopping a newspaper publish that they are going to create 50,000 new citizens.

There has been no outcry from GC politicians that I am aware of. There has been no signs of protests from TRNC citizens. There has been no follow up anywhere that I can see to this one newspaper story.

Conclusion - It's a silly newspaper story, believed only by those who want to believe the worst.

[DT.]

so after 34 years of doing it you've now stopped. Whoop-de-doo.

Whats funny though is the amount of journo's from the north who keep writing about the constant settlers arrival and keep blaming talat's admin for the mess. They don't think its stopped and we're not just talking about Levent.

To be pedantic, only 30 years, and in reality, nearly all of it happened in the first few years after 1974.

I hope your whoop-de-dooo is not sarcastic. I thought you would be pleased that it's stopped.

It is quite possible that there seem to be, and maybe are, more Turkish citizens in the North. The university population has increased, all on students visas and they will return when their studies are complete. There are probably more workers from Turkey, partially to replace TCs who now work in the South, and partially because there has been a boom in the building sector and more employment opportunities. They are on work visas and will return when their visas run out.

I don't think that Levent or other journos will be examining passports to find out if they have been given TRNC citizenship, are tourists, students or temporary workers.

You bet its sarcastic Observer because it past the point where it was objectionable to us,, years ago. WHats 100,000 settlers whats 150,000 settlers? Same thing. The only people that seem to care how many there are, are annoyed TC's. Its strange how you downgrade the problem to one of seasonal workers and students when TC's (some on this forum) find these settlers to be outnumbering TC's. And its not just one or two journo's nearly all papers except for Volkan and some other radical ones have complained at some point or another at the number of settlers brought over.

You can't get away from the fact that changing places names and importing replacement inhabitants to these places is a medieval practise in which very few countries in this day and age could contemplate doing.

Are you not in the slightest appalled by this action?

[tessintrnc]

Maybe the TRNC government should do what the ROC government did to the GC's and offer €25,000 to those TC families who are willing to have a 3rd baby and so boost the population?

[alexISS]

I sense twisted logic.

"it's not like there is anyone that really knows what's happening in occupied Cyprus" so this story must be true.

No, noone knows what's happening in occupied Cyprus so there won't be many results when googling about settler importations. But when the only source of information, the Turkish Cypriot press, reports such a story, do you believe it's sensible to be ignored?

"it's a Turkish protectorate and they can do whatever they want with it" except, apparently, stopping a newspaper publish that they are going to create 50,000 new citizens.

They can do whatever they want regarding their citizenship giveaway, don't twist my words by misquoting me.
Besides, 10 years ago even silencing a newspaper would be easy for Turkey to do, the only reason they're not doing it now is the internet (So now Turkey censors the internet instead, remember YouTube?)

There has been no outcry from GC politicians that I am aware of. There has been no signs of protests from TRNC citizens. There has been no follow up anywhere that I can see to this one newspaper story.

Wait for the plan to start materializing, there can be no protest on a newspaper article

Conclusion - It's a silly newspaper story, believed only by those who want to believe the worst.

Turkey's been doing exactly what the newspaper reports for 30 years, it would be more senseless to believe that they have stopped than not