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Postby observer » Wed Mar 05, 2008 4:20 pm

The TRNC (illegal or not) like any other country in the world, want to control their own boundary.
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Postby DT. » Wed Mar 05, 2008 4:21 pm

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observer wrote:As I and Halill continually tell you, there are no soldiers posted on the TRNC side, only those driving through to another place to avoid driving through a pedestrian only place. Halil is of the opinion that they can go another way. I agree.


then whats the problem with the common sense/ pre-condition.


I'm serously not following you. If there are no Turkish troops...then what wrong with agreeing to the UN standing there? If there are no Troops there then what was wrong with the original pre-conditions?
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Postby observer » Wed Mar 05, 2008 4:26 pm

DT. wrote:
DT. wrote:
observer wrote:As I and Halill continually tell you, there are no soldiers posted on the TRNC side, only those driving through to another place to avoid driving through a pedestrian only place. Halil is of the opinion that they can go another way. I agree.


then whats the problem with the common sense/ pre-condition.


I'm serously not following you. If there are no Turkish troops...then what wrong with agreeing to the UN standing there? If there are no Troops there then what was wrong with the original pre-conditions?

No objection to them being there, but my understanding is that the GC proposal is to remove TRNC officials and replace them with UN officials.

And I would point out that only a few days ago someone on this forum was pointing out to me that there were no preconditions on the GC side, and suddenly there are.
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Postby DT. » Wed Mar 05, 2008 4:28 pm

observer wrote:
DT. wrote:
DT. wrote:
observer wrote:As I and Halill continually tell you, there are no soldiers posted on the TRNC side, only those driving through to another place to avoid driving through a pedestrian only place. Halil is of the opinion that they can go another way. I agree.


then whats the problem with the common sense/ pre-condition.


I'm serously not following you. If there are no Turkish troops...then what wrong with agreeing to the UN standing there? If there are no Troops there then what was wrong with the original pre-conditions?

No objection to them being there, but my understanding is that the GC proposal is to remove TRNC officials and replace them with UN officials.

And I would point out that only a few days ago someone on this forum was pointing out to me that there were no preconditions on the GC side, and suddenly there are.


STart again Observer....are there any turkish troops there or not?
If there are not then why are we dicsussing this you've already met one of the original pre-conditions.
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Postby observer » Wed Mar 05, 2008 4:41 pm

I am not the Minister of Defence, but I have never seen a Turkish or a TRNC soldier at the gate on any time I have been there. I have never seen a patrol drive by either, but I know they do and the photograph proves it. The area on the north side of the gate is a pedestrian area, just as it is on the south side. Very occasionally, I have seen Military Police patrolling the streets on foot, but their job is to make sure there are no problems with soldiers off-duty. I have never seen any problem with what was originally Papadopoulos' demand that soldiers be removed, because I don't think there are any usually there.

My understanding of the precondition is that now it is being said that UN officials are to man the proposed crossing. If it is only that they control it in the way they control the Ledra Palace, then I have misunderstood and I hope you'll come through the gates on a shopping trip soon.

I'm being told to go and buy some shopping myself, so will leave Talat and Christofias to sort it out.
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Postby denizaksulu » Wed Mar 05, 2008 4:55 pm

observer wrote:I am not the Minister of Defence, but I have never seen a Turkish or a TRNC soldier at the gate on any time I have been there. I have never seen a patrol drive by either, but I know they do and the photograph proves it. The area on the north side of the gate is a pedestrian area, just as it is on the south side. Very occasionally, I have seen Military Police patrolling the streets on foot, but their job is to make sure there are no problems with soldiers off-duty. I have never seen any problem with what was originally Papadopoulos' demand that soldiers be removed, because I don't think there are any usually there.

My understanding of the precondition is that now it is being said that UN officials are to man the proposed crossing. If it is only that they control it in the way they control the Ledra Palace, then I have misunderstood and I hope you'll come through the gates on a shopping trip soon.

I'm being told to go and buy some shopping myself, so will leave Talat and Christofias to sort it out.



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Postby cypezokyli » Wed Mar 05, 2008 7:55 pm

i have the impression that people are still arguing on topics that might well be already solved.

it seems that ledras might open.

it would be a great opportunity for all of us to be there and celebrate.
great time for a forum meeting. :D :D
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Postby Bananiot » Thu Mar 06, 2008 8:09 am

Absolutely cypezokyli and this time if the Chrysi Avgi thugs turn up to spoil the occasion we shall deal with them.
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Postby Oracle » Thu Mar 06, 2008 8:22 am

Yes foolish citizens, celebrate the fact that you are allowing invading occupiers to check your credentials and suitability, before allowing you access to your own country.

Just what we all needed in our lives, more regulations. :roll:
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Postby DT. » Thu Mar 06, 2008 8:32 am

Bananiot wrote:Absolutely cypezokyli and this time if the Chrysi Avgi thugs turn up to spoil the occasion we shall deal with them.


:lol: Take it easy re Bananiot these kids have a bit more spring in their step.
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