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Postby humanist » Fri Feb 29, 2008 9:51 am

Bananiot, the leader in the free areas has changed I think the leader in the occupied areas needs to go. He is intentions are not honourable from his coments. Especially his coments about the Turkish ports in relation to Cyprus shows nothing but Turkish agenda and interests at heart and not a solution to the Cypro. The year will go by and will be still chatting about it on this forum.

I am of the belief that the Turkish speaking Cypriot community have no willingness to unification, where all Cypriots have a fair go.
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Postby DT. » Fri Feb 29, 2008 9:54 am

Bananiot wrote:Same provisions as for the opening of the other crossings. Good will/heart will bring solution not the other way round.


TC's find the provisions ok but not you?
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Postby Viewpoint » Fri Feb 29, 2008 9:55 am

humanist wrote:Bananiot, the leader in the free areas has changed I think the leader in the occupied areas needs to go. He is intentions are not honourable from his coments. Especially his coments about the Turkish ports in relation to Cyprus shows nothing but Turkish agenda and interests at heart and not a solution to the Cypro. The year will go by and will be still chatting about it on this forum.

I am of the belief that the Turkish speaking Cypriot community have no willingness to unification, where all Cypriots have a fair go.


Mr Talat is the best you are going to get the rest are real hardliners who wont give you the time of day plus there is the threat of emerging Turkish originated parties whos support is on the rise, you can always wait and then sit at the table with a settler who has no type of bond with anything GC, the choice is yours.
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Postby halil » Fri Feb 29, 2008 9:59 am

umidis wrote:There is only one Mayor of Nicosia and it ain't that Baboon bulutoglu.


Umidis ,
don't you have any idea about 60 consitution

Article 173

1. Separate municipalities shall be created in the five largest towns of the Republic, that is to say, Nicosia, Limassol, Famagusta, Larnaca and Paphos by the Turkish inhabitants thereof:
Provided that the President and the Vice-President of the Republic shall within four years of the date of the coming into operation of this Constitution examine the question whether or not this separation of municipalities in the aforesaid towns shall continue.

2. The council of the Greek municipality in any such town shall be elected by the Greek electors of the town and the council of the Turkish municipality in such town shall be elected by the Turkish electors of the town.

3. In each such town a co-ordinating body shall be set up composed of two members chosen by the council of the Greek municipality, two members chosen by the council of the Turkish municipality and a President chosen by agreement between the two councils of such municipalities in such town. Such co-ordinating body shall provide for work which needs to be carried out jointly, shall carry out joint services entrusted to it by agreement of the councils of the two municipalities within the town and shall concern itself with matters which require a degree of co-operation.
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Postby DT. » Fri Feb 29, 2008 10:01 am

Viewpoint wrote:
humanist wrote:Bananiot, the leader in the free areas has changed I think the leader in the occupied areas needs to go. He is intentions are not honourable from his coments. Especially his coments about the Turkish ports in relation to Cyprus shows nothing but Turkish agenda and interests at heart and not a solution to the Cypro. The year will go by and will be still chatting about it on this forum.

I am of the belief that the Turkish speaking Cypriot community have no willingness to unification, where all Cypriots have a fair go.


Mr Talat is the best you are going to get the rest are real hardliners who wont give you the time of day plus there is the threat of emerging Turkish originated parties whos support is on the rise, you can always wait and then sit at the table with a settler who has no type of bond with anything GC, the choice is yours.


YOu've depicted the people that are going to rule you as hardliners, settlers fom turkey......and you think we're gonna have the problems? :shock:
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Postby halil » Fri Feb 29, 2008 11:26 am

DT. wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:We have said yes to the opening what have the GC done, keep us updated.


3 simple common sense conditions.

1) Repair surroudning buildings for the publics safety
2) Removal of all Turkish flags
3) Withdrawal of Turkish troops from the area.


it's mean there is no difference between new leader and old leader.
have a look at the present condition of the opened gates .
There is a Turkish flags , Greek Flags and troops from both sides also UN's troops . what is the difference of the Lokmacı gate than others and finding many excuses for not opening ?
Also EU has reserved enough money to repair the buildings .if there is a good will they should start to repair buildings .
where is the good will ?
the will is only finding excuses that's all .
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Postby zan » Fri Feb 29, 2008 11:38 am

WHO is going to administer the area??? This is not just a crossing but a whole street?????????????????????
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Postby DT. » Fri Feb 29, 2008 12:08 pm

halil wrote:
DT. wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:We have said yes to the opening what have the GC done, keep us updated.


3 simple common sense conditions.

1) Repair surroudning buildings for the publics safety
2) Removal of all Turkish flags
3) Withdrawal of Turkish troops from the area.


it's mean there is no difference between new leader and old leader.
have a look at the present condition of the opened gates .
There is a Turkish flags , Greek Flags and troops from both sides also UN's troops . what is the difference of the Lokmacı gate than others and finding many excuses for not opening ?
Also EU has reserved enough money to repair the buildings .if there is a good will they should start to repair buildings .
where is the good will ?
the will is only finding excuses that's all .


Halil stop excusing the inexcusable and find your goodwill. This crossing is different. It is a street in the heart of the capital. YOU explain t me why you insist on having foreign flags there? And while you're at it tell me where the goodwill is shown in having foreighn troops there?

We say NO FLAGS
We sayNO TROOPS
We say safety to the pedestrians

Where is your goodwill? Why do you need all this stuff?
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Postby halil » Fri Feb 29, 2008 12:26 pm

DT. wrote:
halil wrote:
DT. wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:We have said yes to the opening what have the GC done, keep us updated.


3 simple common sense conditions.

1) Repair surroudning buildings for the publics safety
2) Removal of all Turkish flags
3) Withdrawal of Turkish troops from the area.


it's mean there is no difference between new leader and old leader.
have a look at the present condition of the opened gates .
There is a Turkish flags , Greek Flags and troops from both sides also UN's troops . what is the difference of the Lokmacı gate than others and finding many excuses for not opening ?
Also EU has reserved enough money to repair the buildings .if there is a good will they should start to repair buildings .
where is the good will ?
the will is only finding excuses that's all .


Halil stop excusing the inexcusable and find your goodwill. This crossing is different. It is a street in the heart of the capital. YOU explain t me why you insist on having foreign flags there? And while you're at it tell me where the goodwill is shown in having foreighn troops there?

We say NO FLAGS
We sayNO TROOPS
We say safety to the pedestrians

Where is your goodwill? Why do you need all this stuff?


DT,
i am not finding excuse . ofcourse we don't need those stuff .
safety of the pedestrians they should start to repair the buildings without delaying .it is only straight road and very sişmple to do it . all the arguments that i am pointing out applies to both sides . i used only 2 gates up to now . the things you complaining now is still excisting at both gates .
good will is under this . if you right they must apply all the arguments that you saying for both gates and others. not only for leadra gate.
We say NO FLAGS
We sayNO TROOPS

than i can say there is a good will . still for me it is only excuse .
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Postby Viewpoint » Fri Feb 29, 2008 1:14 pm

DT. wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
DT. wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:We have said yes to the opening what have the GC done, keep us updated.


3 simple common sense conditions.

1) Repair surroudning buildings for the publics safety
2) Removal of all Turkish flags
3) Withdrawal of Turkish troops from the area.


Yes to 1 and 3 but will you remove the Greek Flags? they are very evident when we cross at Ledra Palace, why the fuss?


Happily, have said this many times. The flags will be gone. How come your side doesn't agree to any of these?


Your side demands but does not lead by example, remove the GC guard, Greek Flags and repair your side of the divide and we will follow, the directive has been given to the Mayor of Nicosia to open the crossing ourside.
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