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[DT.]

In this three a half page letter written for the numbskull talat in ankara, is asking that talks start on making up a 5 th Anal Plan. WE don't want the bloody ANAL plan it is off the table!!!! Is this what they call wanting peace????

unfortunately you're not going to feel the full "Kikapu" effect umidis unless you get a few TC's to argue with you. How about you change it again to another nick without telling anyone this time.

[BirKibrisli]

In this three a half page letter written for the numbskull talat in ankara, is asking that talks start on making up a 5 th Anal Plan. WE don't want the bloody ANAL plan it is off the table!!!! Is this what they call wanting peace????

unfortunately you're not going to feel the full "Kikapu" effect umidis unless you get a few TC's to argue with you. How about you change it again to another nick without telling anyone this time.

If the contents are kept confidential,how does umidis know it is three-and-a half pages?????

[DT.]

In this three a half page letter written for the numbskull talat in ankara, is asking that talks start on making up a 5 th Anal Plan. WE don't want the bloody ANAL plan it is off the table!!!! Is this what they call wanting peace????

unfortunately you're not going to feel the full "Kikapu" effect umidis unless you get a few TC's to argue with you. How about you change it again to another nick without telling anyone this time.

If the contents are kept confidential,how does umidis know it is three-and-a half pages?????

not so confidential...was plastered over the papers over here. APprently all 5 members f the security council have scolded Talat for this letter, accusing him of unnecessary provocations before the talks are due to begin.

[halil]

The President’s office has announced that it has sent a letter to the UN Secretary General Ban Ki Moon providing a clear outline of the Turkish Cypriot Side’s position on the Cyprus Problem.
aim of the letter sent to the UN Secretary General was to assist the United Nations in its preparations to launch a new initiative on the Cyprus Problem.exact contents of the letter were being kept confidential so as not to give room for speculations or discussion.

I didn't realise the President of the Republic of Cyprus has acted so quickly. Good on you Mr Christofias.

Humanist ,
i mean president Talat.
Talat has written Turkish Cypriots side position to UN's.

Tell us,Halil gardash, has Talat's spokesperson,Mr Ercakica, started complaining about President Hristofias yet???How long do you think it will take him to tarnish Hristofias with Tpapa brush???

Is this what it is all about??? Getting in first before people start to question who is really for a solution and who is just playing games???

President Christofias has called on Talat to lower his tone because he will damage the process before it even starts.

Basically he said "cut the crap"

President Talat basically said : Bi-communial ,Bi-zonal ,equal partnership ,
and guarantor status of Turkey will continue .
He is ready to start with Annan Plan 5th edition.

[halil]

The President’s office has announced that it has sent a letter to the UN Secretary General Ban Ki Moon providing a clear outline of the Turkish Cypriot Side’s position on the Cyprus Problem.
aim of the letter sent to the UN Secretary General was to assist the United Nations in its preparations to launch a new initiative on the Cyprus Problem.exact contents of the letter were being kept confidential so as not to give room for speculations or discussion.

I didn't realise the President of the Republic of Cyprus has acted so quickly. Good on you Mr Christofias.

Humanist ,
i mean president Talat.
Talat has written Turkish Cypriots side position to UN's.

Tell us,Halil gardash, has Talat's spokesperson,Mr Ercakica, started complaining about President Hristofias yet???How long do you think it will take him to tarnish Hristofias with Tpapa brush???

Is this what it is all about??? Getting in first before people start to question who is really for a solution and who is just playing games???

Birkibrisli you can read about letter and other things what Talat has said.
go to Kıbrıs news paper web site. under the title Cumhurbaşkanı Talat dan Ban'a mektup.
http://www.kibrisgazetesi.com/

[miltiades]

Halil , he must surely know , Talat , that any plan that gives Turkey the right of intervention is doomed to fail from the very start. The majority of Cypriots will simply reject a plan giving Turkey , the nation that the majority see as the occupier of part of Cyprus , the right to intervene in any part of Cyprus. This was a major stumbling block of the AP , it has to be modified in order that a new solution is found. What Talat and Turkey must digest is that regardless how they view events of 1974 , the 80% of Cypriots see those events as an invasion by Turkey who occupied and still does 37% of Cyprus. The moderates are also seeing it in this light frankly because the UN and Europe also see it as such. To introduce a plan that gives Turkey the right to wonder in any part of Cyprus at will will NEVER be accepted by the 80% of Cypriots , so we could be back to square one.
We need to accept realities then perhaps we can make progress towards a solution.

[halil]

Halil , he must surely know , Talat , that any plan that gives Turkey the right of intervention is doomed to fail from the very start. The majority of Cypriots will simply reject a plan giving Turkey , the nation that the majority see as the occupier of part of Cyprus , the right to intervene in any part of Cyprus. This was a major stumbling block of the AP , it has to be modified in order that a new solution is found. What Talat and Turkey must digest is that regardless how they view events of 1974 , the 80% of Cypriots see those events as an invasion by Turkey who occupied and still does 37% of Cyprus. The moderates are also seeing it in this light frankly because the UN and Europe also see it as such. To introduce a plan that gives Turkey the right to wonder in any part of Cyprus at will will NEVER be accepted by the 80% of Cypriots , so we could be back to square one.
We need to accept realities then perhaps we can make progress towards a solution.

Miltiades,
Talat or other TC's are all knows what the international agreement gave them before my friend .(60's agreement) Talat insisting no one has got power to take the Turkish guaranties .
Also he points out how the ROC is formed . ROC is based on the partnership basis's not majority or minority basis's .

He is pointing out basic Turkish arguments as simple as this .
bi-communal, bi-zonal federal state with two constituent states having one common external voice.
it looks there is no way return back ex -ROC system with this new agreement it should be quaranties too. other wise as you are saying back to square one.
hard times are waiting

[BirKibrisli]

The President’s office has announced that it has sent a letter to the UN Secretary General Ban Ki Moon providing a clear outline of the Turkish Cypriot Side’s position on the Cyprus Problem.
aim of the letter sent to the UN Secretary General was to assist the United Nations in its preparations to launch a new initiative on the Cyprus Problem.exact contents of the letter were being kept confidential so as not to give room for speculations or discussion.

I didn't realise the President of the Republic of Cyprus has acted so quickly. Good on you Mr Christofias.

Humanist ,
i mean president Talat.
Talat has written Turkish Cypriots side position to UN's.

Tell us,Halil gardash, has Talat's spokesperson,Mr Ercakica, started complaining about President Hristofias yet???How long do you think it will take him to tarnish Hristofias with Tpapa brush???

Is this what it is all about??? Getting in first before people start to question who is really for a solution and who is just playing games???

Birkibrisli you can read about letter and other things what Talat has said.
go to Kıbrıs news paper web site. under the title Cumhurbaşkanı Talat dan Ban'a mektup.
http://www.kibrisgazetesi.com/

Thanks,Halil...I just read the article. I am puzzled by two things.
First the line "As usual,Turkish Cypriots got the news of Talat's letter to Ban Ki Moon from the GC newspapers"...
Why "as usual"???? And how did the GC papers got hold of the letter???

The other thing was the claim by Fileleftheros that "according to diplomatic sources the 3 and-a-half page letter was drawn up at the Turkish Foreign Affairs Ministry"...
Is this true?? Has anyone from the TC side challenged it???

[halil]

The President’s office has announced that it has sent a letter to the UN Secretary General Ban Ki Moon providing a clear outline of the Turkish Cypriot Side’s position on the Cyprus Problem.
aim of the letter sent to the UN Secretary General was to assist the United Nations in its preparations to launch a new initiative on the Cyprus Problem.exact contents of the letter were being kept confidential so as not to give room for speculations or discussion.

I didn't realise the President of the Republic of Cyprus has acted so quickly. Good on you Mr Christofias.

Humanist ,
i mean president Talat.
Talat has written Turkish Cypriots side position to UN's.

Tell us,Halil gardash, has Talat's spokesperson,Mr Ercakica, started complaining about President Hristofias yet???How long do you think it will take him to tarnish Hristofias with Tpapa brush???

Is this what it is all about??? Getting in first before people start to question who is really for a solution and who is just playing games???

Birkibrisli you can read about letter and other things what Talat has said.
go to Kıbrıs news paper web site. under the title Cumhurbaşkanı Talat dan Ban'a mektup.
http://www.kibrisgazetesi.com/

Thanks,Halil...I just read the article. I am puzzled by two things.
First the line "As usual,Turkish Cypriots got the news of Talat's letter to Ban Ki Moon from the GC newspapers"...
Why "as usual"???? And how did the GC papers got hold of the letter???

The other thing was the claim by Fileleftheros that "according to diplomatic sources the 3 and-a-half page letter was drawn up at the Turkish Foreign Affairs Ministry"...
Is this true?? Has anyone from the TC side challenged it???

As it was written above letter was kept away to stop the speculations and they says papers will say anything , anything you read doesn't mean that it is correct . İt is not correct that it was prepared at Turkey.

Below here is another news from AFP.
Talat Monday called for rapid talks, a proposal widely supported by the international community. "The period before us is the period... to resolve the Cyprus problem," Talat said, warning that failure to clinch a lasting settlement could "lead to the permanent division of Cyprus".

But analysts warn against expectations of an early breakthrough. "The change of government in Nicosia should not be seen as an indication that people have changed their mind in relation to the substance of their 'no' vote in April 2004," said University of Nicosia professor Andreas Theophanous.

"It is unlikely that Turkey and the Turkish-Cypriot leadership will change their policy over Cyprus because there has been a government change in the Republic of Cyprus".

[Oracle]

In this three a half page letter written for the numbskull talat in ankara, is asking that talks start on making up a 5 th Anal Plan. WE don't want the bloody ANAL plan it is off the table!!!! Is this what they call wanting peace????

umidis ... Welcome to the forum ....

But don't give those TCs any recognition by assuming halil meant Talat when he said "president" without the quotation marks.

And your spelling and grammar need improving, otherwise people will assume you are one of those TCs that come on this forum to just make the GCs look bad .....

But I am not one of those GCs that boss other GCs around ... so keep up the good work