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The Turkish Cypriot self-isolation policy from 1963 onwards

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Postby Piratis » Thu Mar 27, 2008 4:54 pm

Nurgary, as I explained you in another thread you are following the Turkish propaganda who is trying to equate things that are very very different in magnitude.

Nobody denies that TCs suffered as well, for one decade, losing a few 100s of people. GCs however have suffered from the Turks almost non stop for centuries, something that continues until today, and lost 1000s of people. Even if you post one news report for every TC that was killed and for every day the TCs suffered, while totally ignoring the suffering of GCs, it is really not going to change this fact.

Furthermore, if our former colonialists (British/Turks) had allowed Cyprus to finally be liberated from them, and they didn't use the TC minority on the island as an excuse to deny to the Cypriot people their freedom and self determination, then the conflicts you talk about wouldn't happen to begin with.

Cyprus is a victim of the powers that want to continue their control over our island against our will, and TCs are the pawns of those powers, agreeing to play their divide and rule game, believing that those foreigners will grant to them disproportionally large amounts of land and power on the expense of the rest of Cypriots.

Thats the root of our problem my friend. So stop the lame excuses. All Cypriots deserve their rights, deserve their freedom, deserve their lands and deserve democracy.
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Postby Nurgary » Thu Mar 27, 2008 5:10 pm

No let's forget what was it 97% of GC's voted for unity with Greece all them years back - it was not Cypriot then and the reality is it never was as GC do see themselves as Greek.

No it appears there is a change in policy across the GC population.

The main issue is both sides just can't agree figures or %'s. You say a few 100 TC's died and thats it. Your last President said none had. The UN agree there are over 550 TC missing.
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Re: The Turkish Cypriot self-isolation policy from 1963 onwa

Postby Get Real! » Thu Mar 27, 2008 5:10 pm

Nurgary wrote:
Get Real! wrote:The Turkish Cypriot self-isolation policy from 1963 onwards

Extract from UN document S/6426

106.The Turkish Cypriot leaders have adhered to
rigid stand against any measures which might involve having
members of the two communities live and work together, or which
might place Turkish Cypriots in situations where they would have
to acknowledge the authority of Government agents. Indeed, since
the Turkish Cypriot leadership is committed to physical and
geographical separation of the communities as a political goal
,
it is not likely to encourage activities by Turkish Cypriots
which may be interpreted as demonstrating the merits of an
alternative policy. The result has been a seemingly deliberate
policy of self-segregation by the Turkish Cypriots
. The
Government contends that the hardships suffered by the Turkish
Cypriot population are the direct result of the leadership's
self-isolation policy, imposed by force on the rank and file. The
Turkish Cypriots assert that these hardships are designed by the
Government to pressure the Turkish community into submission and
to destroy politically and that Turkish Cypriots are at one in
their determination to resist.



Regards, GR.


SG to UN in 1963:

On 10th September 1964 the Secretary-General reported (UN doc. S/5950):

"UNFICYP carried out a detailed survey of all damage to properties throughout the island during the disturbances . . . it shows that in 109 villages, most of them Turkish-Cypriot or mixed villages, 527 houses have been destroyed while 2,000 others have suffered damage from looting. In Ktima 38 houses and shops have been destroyed totally and 122 partially. In the Orphomita suburb of Nicosia 50 houses have been totally destroyed while a further 240 have been partially destroyed there and in adjacent suburbs."


But also read last part of your post.


This does NOT just say "Turkish Cypriot" houses or shops does it now? :lol:

Also, Polis' investigative work puts this story to rest right here...

http://www.cyprus-forum.com/cyprus15804-110.html
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Postby Nurgary » Thu Mar 27, 2008 5:16 pm

it puts f**k all to rest - damage was done on both sides - can't you admit that.
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Postby Kikapu » Thu Mar 27, 2008 5:30 pm

Nurgary wrote:it puts f**k all to rest - damage was done on both sides - can't you admit that.


Few days ago Christofias declared that both sides are to blame for Cyprus problems in 1963, which he was commended for his speech from some TC's and GC's on the forum.

I am yet to hear a similar speech from Talat. Why is that Nurgary.??
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Postby Get Real! » Thu Mar 27, 2008 5:35 pm

Nurgary wrote:it puts f**k all to rest - damage was done on both sides - can't you admit that.

Give it up before you fall ill... I take no prisoners remember? Image
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Postby Nurgary » Thu Mar 27, 2008 5:57 pm

I suspect you don't take prisoners as fu*ked off quick when the Turks intervened
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Postby Nurgary » Thu Mar 27, 2008 6:00 pm

Kikapu wrote:
Nurgary wrote:it puts f**k all to rest - damage was done on both sides - can't you admit that.


Few days ago Christofias declared that both sides are to blame for Cyprus problems in 1963, which he was commended for his speech from some TC's and GC's on the forum.

I am yet to hear a similar speech from Talat. Why is that Nurgary.??


Yes a good start from him - but how many here don't??

Now Talet may not agree with GC leader as he may see it was only GC to blame back then.
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Postby Get Real! » Thu Mar 27, 2008 6:04 pm

Nurgary wrote:I suspect you don't take prisoners as fu*ked off quick when the Turks intervened

You're drained! :( ...and your English is suffering... :lol:
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Postby Get Real! » Thu Mar 27, 2008 6:09 pm

Nurgary wrote:Now Talet may not agree with GC leader as he may see it was only GC to blame back then.

That's a possibility if he's been reading all the precious "evidence" you've been posting... :lol:
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