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Cyprus Inter-communal Fighting

Postby zan » Wed Feb 27, 2008 11:34 pm

THE SECTION IT REALLY BELONGS!!!




Just to clear a number of major discrepancies posted by some members whose only agenda is the division of our island , I post below an extract taken from WIKIPEDIA , makes interesting reading !!
Our two communities existed side by side for many years , the extremists got the better of our people and the fanatics today are spreading malicious propaganda directed at all Cypriots .

1963-64: Turkish Cypriot Withdrawal from the Government

Main article: Cyprus intercommunal violence

In November 1963, president Makarios suggested constitutional amendments in thirteen different clauses be introduced to the Government Assembly for voting. Most[citation needed] of the amendments were aimed at restricting the political rights that had been given to the Turkish Cypriot community in the constitution of 1960[citation needed]. The constitution had been based on the principle of the existence of two different communities in Cyprus: The Greek Cypriots (Christian Orthodox - 82% of the total population), and the Turkish Cypriots (Muslim - 18% of the population). For instance, the judicial and municipal services were run by people from the respective communities within the existing order. The number of officials, MPs, soldiers, and police were determined on a 70%-30% basis. The amendments involved a transition to a state with less separate political rights for any single community. While Makarios took firm measures[citation needed], the Turkish Cypriot leaders showed absolutely no interest in negotiating. Thus they abandoned the parliament and all other institutions, beating the drum and accusing the other side that "they have thrown us out of the republic" (to this day, the seats reserved for the Turks are still empty in the Assembly of Republic of Cyprus). While Greek Cypriots hold that this happened voluntarily, Turkish Cypriots claim they were forced out of government[citation needed] and its agencies by the Greek Cypriot authorities. During this and the following year[citation needed], fighting occasionally flared up between the two communities, more and more enforcing a separation and alienation of Greek and Turkish Cypriots.

On December 21, 1963, serious violence erupted in Nicosia when a Greek Cypriot police patrol, checking identification documents, stopped a Turkish Cypriot couple on the edge of the Turkish quarter. A hostile crowd gathered, shots were fired, and three people (two Turkish Cypriots and one Greek Cypriot) were killed. As the news spread, members of underground organizations began firing and taking hostages. North of Nicosia, Turkish forces occupied a strong position at St. Hilarion Castle, dominating the road to Kyrenia on the northern coast. The road became a principal combat area as both sides fought to control it. Much intercommunal fighting occurred in Nicosia along the line separating the Greek and Turkish quarters of the city (known later as the Green Line).

Severe intercommunal fighting occurred in March and April 1964. When the worst of the fighting was over, Turkish Cypriots began moving from isolated rural areas and mixed villages into enclaves. Turkish Cypriots state[citation needed] that the hostilities forced such an amalgamation while the Greek Cypriots state that the Turkish Cypriots did so without any pressure from them, but rather by the Turkish Cypriot paramilitary organization TMT so that to apply uniformity. It is believed by progressive Cypriots that both events occurred. Before long, a substantial portion of the island's Turkish Cypriot population[citation needed] was crowded into the Turkish quarter of Nicosia and other enclaves, in tents and hastily constructed shacks[citation needed]. Slum conditions resulted from the serious overcrowding.

Attempts of the Cypriot National Guard under control{[citation needed] of General George Grivas, who claimed to be acting under a mandate given to Cyprus by the UN, to re-capture a beach-head at the Kokkina/Erenköy enclave which the Turkish Cypriots claimed was their last link with the outside world but the Greek Cypriots feared would be used as a landing post for Turkish mainland forces, caused an intervention by the Turkish Airforce. On August 8-August 9, Turkey bombed the Tylliria area for two days, using napalm bombs, resulting in the death of 33 Greek Cypriots and 230 injuries.

In total, some 133 Greek Cypriots and 191 Turkish Cypriots are known to have been killed[citation needed] in 1963 and 1964. 209 Turkish Cypriots and 41 Greeks were reported as missing. Nearly 20000 Turkish Cypriots, about one sixth of the Turkish Cypriot population, left their homes to live into enclaves. Finally, more than 3000 Armenian ethnics who had been living in the areas of Nicosia that came under the control of Turkish paramilitaries were forced out of their homes.[1] :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: Cyprus Inter-communal Fighting

Postby pantheman » Wed Feb 27, 2008 11:49 pm

zan wrote:THE SECTION IT REALLY BELONGS!!!




Just to clear a number of major discrepancies posted by some members whose only agenda is the division of our island , I post below an extract taken from WIKIPEDIA , makes interesting reading !!
Our two communities existed side by side for many years , the extremists got the better of our people and the fanatics today are spreading malicious propaganda directed at all Cypriots .

1963-64: Turkish Cypriot Withdrawal from the Government

Main article: Cyprus intercommunal violence

In November 1963, president Makarios suggested constitutional amendments in thirteen different clauses be introduced to the Government Assembly for voting. Most[citation needed] of the amendments were aimed at restricting the political rights that had been given to the Turkish Cypriot community in the constitution of 1960[citation needed]. The constitution had been based on the principle of the existence of two different communities in Cyprus: The Greek Cypriots (Christian Orthodox - 82% of the total population), and the Turkish Cypriots (Muslim - 18% of the population). For instance, the judicial and municipal services were run by people from the respective communities within the existing order. The number of officials, MPs, soldiers, and police were determined on a 70%-30% basis. The amendments involved a transition to a state with less separate political rights for any single community. While Makarios took firm measures[citation needed], the Turkish Cypriot leaders showed absolutely no interest in negotiating. Thus they abandoned the parliament and all other institutions, beating the drum and accusing the other side that "they have thrown us out of the republic" (to this day, the seats reserved for the Turks are still empty in the Assembly of Republic of Cyprus). While Greek Cypriots hold that this happened voluntarily, Turkish Cypriots claim they were forced out of government[citation needed] and its agencies by the Greek Cypriot authorities. During this and the following year[citation needed], fighting occasionally flared up between the two communities, more and more enforcing a separation and alienation of Greek and Turkish Cypriots.

On December 21, 1963, serious violence erupted in Nicosia when a Greek Cypriot police patrol, checking identification documents, stopped a Turkish Cypriot couple on the edge of the Turkish quarter. A hostile crowd gathered, shots were fired, and three people (two Turkish Cypriots and one Greek Cypriot) were killed. As the news spread, members of underground organizations began firing and taking hostages. North of Nicosia, Turkish forces occupied a strong position at St. Hilarion Castle, dominating the road to Kyrenia on the northern coast. The road became a principal combat area as both sides fought to control it. Much intercommunal fighting occurred in Nicosia along the line separating the Greek and Turkish quarters of the city (known later as the Green Line).

Severe intercommunal fighting occurred in March and April 1964. When the worst of the fighting was over, Turkish Cypriots began moving from isolated rural areas and mixed villages into enclaves. Turkish Cypriots state[citation needed] that the hostilities forced such an amalgamation while the Greek Cypriots state that the Turkish Cypriots did so without any pressure from them, but rather by the Turkish Cypriot paramilitary organization TMT so that to apply uniformity. It is believed by progressive Cypriots that both events occurred. Before long, a substantial portion of the island's Turkish Cypriot population[citation needed] was crowded into the Turkish quarter of Nicosia and other enclaves, in tents and hastily constructed shacks[citation needed]. Slum conditions resulted from the serious overcrowding.

Attempts of the Cypriot National Guard under control{[citation needed] of General George Grivas, who claimed to be acting under a mandate given to Cyprus by the UN, to re-capture a beach-head at the Kokkina/Erenköy enclave which the Turkish Cypriots claimed was their last link with the outside world but the Greek Cypriots feared would be used as a landing post for Turkish mainland forces, caused an intervention by the Turkish Airforce. On August 8-August 9, Turkey bombed the Tylliria area for two days, using napalm bombs, resulting in the death of 33 Greek Cypriots and 230 injuries.

In total, some 133 Greek Cypriots and 191 Turkish Cypriots are known to have been killed[citation needed] in 1963 and 1964. 209 Turkish Cypriots and 41 Greeks were reported as missing. Nearly 20000 Turkish Cypriots, about one sixth of the Turkish Cypriot population, left their homes to live into enclaves. Finally, more than 3000 Armenian ethnics who had been living in the areas of Nicosia that came under the control of Turkish paramilitaries were forced out of their homes.[1] :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


Total tosser, Crawl back under that stone.

God, you are truelly a nasty piece of shit Zan, you have now shown your true colours.
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Postby zan » Thu Feb 28, 2008 12:00 am

I am at a loss...Did you get the joke or not.... :? :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby bill cobbett » Thu Feb 28, 2008 12:15 am

I and I am sure others, have always appreciated the more light hearted sections of the forum Zan and whilst I appreciate your attempt at being light humoured to make a point. These are places where members can meet to unwind, have a laugh or chill-out as I think peoople say nowadays.

Be obliged if you would consider asking for this to be moved. Cheers.
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Postby kafenes » Thu Feb 28, 2008 12:21 am

Finally, more than 3000 Armenian ethnics who had been living in the areas of Nicosia that came under the control of Turkish paramilitaries were forced out of their homes.


My Grandparents were amonst these people and I don't consider it a joke. :evil:
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Postby zan » Thu Feb 28, 2008 12:28 am

bill cobbett wrote:I and I am sure others, have always appreciated the more light hearted sections of the forum Zan and whilst I appreciate your attempt at being light humoured to make a point. These are places where members can meet to unwind, have a laugh or chill-out as I think peoople say nowadays.

Be obliged if you would consider asking for this to be moved. Cheers.


I am sure it will be moved with or without my permision!!!!!
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Postby zan » Thu Feb 28, 2008 12:30 am

kafenes wrote:
Finally, more than 3000 Armenian ethnics who had been living in the areas of Nicosia that came under the control of Turkish paramilitaries were forced out of their homes.


My Grandparents were amonst these people and I don't consider it a joke. :evil:


Sorry Kafenes but I have felt the laughter as to my being driven out of my country because my father was not sure where the next meal was going to come from for his family....He was shot at and survived but starvation was what it took for him to leave the country he loved with a few pounds in his pocket.....
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Postby pantheman » Thu Feb 28, 2008 9:33 am

zan wrote:
kafenes wrote:
Finally, more than 3000 Armenian ethnics who had been living in the areas of Nicosia that came under the control of Turkish paramilitaries were forced out of their homes.


My Grandparents were amonst these people and I don't consider it a joke. :evil:


Sorry Kafenes but I have felt the laughter as to my being driven out of my country because my father was not sure where the next meal was going to come from for his family....He was shot at and survived but starvation was what it took for him to leave the country he loved with a few pounds in his pocket.....


:cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: Zan, yours and 200,000+ GCs were faced with the same fate.

Crying the victim all the time when it is you causing it, makes me sick.

You just don't know when to stop do you. After the poison you spread its no wonder you never want to meet anyone. You know which side of your bread is buttered don't you. Creep.
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Postby zan » Thu Feb 28, 2008 9:40 am

pantheman wrote:
zan wrote:
kafenes wrote:
Finally, more than 3000 Armenian ethnics who had been living in the areas of Nicosia that came under the control of Turkish paramilitaries were forced out of their homes.


My Grandparents were amonst these people and I don't consider it a joke. :evil:


Sorry Kafenes but I have felt the laughter as to my being driven out of my country because my father was not sure where the next meal was going to come from for his family....He was shot at and survived but starvation was what it took for him to leave the country he loved with a few pounds in his pocket.....


:cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: Zan, yours and 200,000+ GCs were faced with the same fate.

Crying the victim all the time when it is you causing it, makes me sick.

You just don't know when to stop do you. After the poison you spread its no wonder you never want to meet anyone. You know which side of your bread is buttered don't you. Creep.



I state my case not cry victim all the time and for that matter I have never denied the fate of those poor souls as well, although the number is once again wrong and out of your propaganda books...Shows that I have taken the time to find out more and you have not....This is what iis annoying me so much...Can't you people do some research and find out more about me and mine also?? Of course you cant because that would make you see the truth and stop you in your tracks......Creep your self!!!!
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Postby DT. » Thu Feb 28, 2008 10:06 am

Looks like Zan couldn't take the heat in the Cyprob page and feels like matching his wits against the jokes section. :lol:

They'll eat you alive here mate, but I'll be supporting you all the way.

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