Cyprus-Forum.com

[miltiades]

Just to clear a number of major discrepancies posted by some members whose only agenda is the division of our island , I post below an extract taken from WIKIPEDIA , makes interesting reading !!
Our two communities existed side by side for many years , the extremists got the better of our people and the fanatics today are spreading malicious propaganda directed at all Cypriots .

1963-64: Turkish Cypriot Withdrawal from the Government

Main article: Cyprus intercommunal violence

In November 1963, president Makarios suggested constitutional amendments in thirteen different clauses be introduced to the Government Assembly for voting. Most[citation needed] of the amendments were aimed at restricting the political rights that had been given to the Turkish Cypriot community in the constitution of 1960[citation needed]. The constitution had been based on the principle of the existence of two different communities in Cyprus: The Greek Cypriots (Christian Orthodox - 82% of the total population), and the Turkish Cypriots (Muslim - 18% of the population). For instance, the judicial and municipal services were run by people from the respective communities within the existing order. The number of officials, MPs, soldiers, and police were determined on a 70%-30% basis. The amendments involved a transition to a state with less separate political rights for any single community. While Makarios took firm measures[citation needed], the Turkish Cypriot leaders showed absolutely no interest in negotiating. Thus they abandoned the parliament and all other institutions, beating the drum and accusing the other side that "they have thrown us out of the republic" (to this day, the seats reserved for the Turks are still empty in the Assembly of Republic of Cyprus). While Greek Cypriots hold that this happened voluntarily, Turkish Cypriots claim they were forced out of government[citation needed] and its agencies by the Greek Cypriot authorities. During this and the following year[citation needed], fighting occasionally flared up between the two communities, more and more enforcing a separation and alienation of Greek and Turkish Cypriots.

On December 21, 1963, serious violence erupted in Nicosia when a Greek Cypriot police patrol, checking identification documents, stopped a Turkish Cypriot couple on the edge of the Turkish quarter. A hostile crowd gathered, shots were fired, and three people (two Turkish Cypriots and one Greek Cypriot) were killed. As the news spread, members of underground organizations began firing and taking hostages. North of Nicosia, Turkish forces occupied a strong position at St. Hilarion Castle, dominating the road to Kyrenia on the northern coast. The road became a principal combat area as both sides fought to control it. Much intercommunal fighting occurred in Nicosia along the line separating the Greek and Turkish quarters of the city (known later as the Green Line).

Severe intercommunal fighting occurred in March and April 1964. When the worst of the fighting was over, Turkish Cypriots began moving from isolated rural areas and mixed villages into enclaves. Turkish Cypriots state[citation needed] that the hostilities forced such an amalgamation while the Greek Cypriots state that the Turkish Cypriots did so without any pressure from them, but rather by the Turkish Cypriot paramilitary organization TMT so that to apply uniformity. It is believed by progressive Cypriots that both events occurred. Before long, a substantial portion of the island's Turkish Cypriot population[citation needed] was crowded into the Turkish quarter of Nicosia and other enclaves, in tents and hastily constructed shacks[citation needed]. Slum conditions resulted from the serious overcrowding.

Attempts of the Cypriot National Guard under control{[citation needed] of General George Grivas, who claimed to be acting under a mandate given to Cyprus by the UN, to re-capture a beach-head at the Kokkina/Erenköy enclave which the Turkish Cypriots claimed was their last link with the outside world but the Greek Cypriots feared would be used as a landing post for Turkish mainland forces, caused an intervention by the Turkish Airforce. On August 8-August 9, Turkey bombed the Tylliria area for two days, using napalm bombs, resulting in the death of 33 Greek Cypriots and 230 injuries.

In total, some 133 Greek Cypriots and 191 Turkish Cypriots are known to have been killed[citation needed] in 1963 and 1964. 209 Turkish Cypriots and 41 Greeks were reported as missing. Nearly 20000 Turkish Cypriots, about one sixth of the Turkish Cypriot population, left their homes to live into enclaves. Finally, more than 3000 Armenian ethnics who had been living in the areas of Nicosia that came under the control of Turkish paramilitaries were forced out of their homes.[1]

[zan]

All that shit has been written by GR Miltiades....Do you have any idea as to how Wiki works????

[pantheman]

All that shit has been written by GR Miltiades....Do you have any idea as to how Wiki works????

Well why don't you write your version then instead of just bleating. Just typical of you partitionists, always throwing spanners in the works in case we can actually agree some solution.

Go write, lets see what you have to say.

[Sega]

All that shit has been written by GR Miltiades....Do you have any idea as to how Wiki works????

Ye it's good. You can write your own things in and it get's validated, as long as there are books/journals and weblinks to support it your fine. It tells you on the top of the article might be inconsise. By far one of the easiest online encyclopedias. I use it all the time, it's great, especially for computing.

[miltiades]

All that shit has been written by GR Miltiades....Do you have any idea as to how Wiki works????

It is shit to you because its not to your palate , your entire purpose on this forum is to continue on the road to partition , to join that new world that you so much aspire to , to spread malicious venom that the people of Cyprus can not live together . My purpose is to tell the people of Cyprus that the past events were the creation of the extremists , on both sides ,
to tell the people of Cyprus that our people lived peacefully together for many years and can do so again united as Cypriots .You belong to the extremists , the fanatics the Eric Days and Phoenixes of this island of ours , you try hard to present an acceptable face of reason but you fail miserably .
Apart from propaganda sides , you ignore all contributions to the Cyprus problem if it doesn't serve your dark agenda.

[Natty]

Can I just highlight something..

In total, some 133 Greek Cypriots and 191 Turkish Cypriots are known to have been killed[citation needed] in 1963 and 1964.

So when was it a one sided thing?

[zan]

All that shit has been written by GR Miltiades....Do you have any idea as to how Wiki works????

Ye it's good. You can write your own things in and it get's validated, as long as there are books/journals and weblinks to support it your fine. It tells you on the top of the article might be inconsise. By far one of the easiest online encyclopedias. I use it all the time, it's great, especially for computing.

The way it works Sega is who ever has the biggest stamina gets to write what they want.....I saw a program on it in which a famous person read his own file on air......He disputed all that was written about him and found out the whole thing was a mystery to him...I can't remember who it was but there was also a politician that did the same.....I tried writing on there but gave up after months of changing the text and having it changed back. That is why GR was furious at Expatkiwi when he did not give up and let GR write his usual crap.....You can use it for trivial stuff but important things should be used with caution.......It is just a way for those guys who invented it to get rich...The hits are massive but as a definite encyclopedia it is a waste of time as the post by Miltiades shows.....




@ Miltiades

Keep up the good work assassin.....I am trying to unite the island in a fair way...You are just a double glazing salesman, trying to sell rubbish products just because it has a kite mark on it........ A bit like those shite Chinese Knives you sell

[bill cobbett]

Just read the article in Wikipedia containing the extract that M. posts at the start of this thread, " Cyprus Intercommunal Violence ". Imho, a concise and I think reasonably balanced account.

[zan]

Just read the article in Wikipedia containing the extract that M. posts at the start of this thread, " Cyprus Intercommunal Violence ". Imho, a concise and I think reasonably balanced account.

Does it mention the Akritas plan and how that was designed to destroy the constitution and the fact that Makarios was after ENOSIS!!!!!NO????? Ver balanced in deed

[bill cobbett]

Just read the article in Wikipedia containing the extract that M. posts at the start of this thread, " Cyprus Intercommunal Violence ". Imho, a concise and I think reasonably balanced account.

Does it mention the Akritas plan and how that was designed to destroy the constitution and the fact that Makarios was after ENOSIS!!!!!NO????? Ver balanced in deed

Well, if Ex-Lax Zon took the time off from regurgitating to read the article he'll find that it does make reference to Aktitas and does record the changing views of the Blessed Saint Makarios's views on enosis.

I'll say again a concise and pretty balanced account and where I suspect both sides of our little squabble have had an input.