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[DT.]

Seriously Zan, how do you explain the flag? What exactly would you like us to tell our kids about this flag?

I think the flag on the mountains of Cyprus is a bloody disgrace , such crude exhibitionism is usually the byproduct of third world mentality and certainly not compatible with Zan's vision of a new world !!!

Still it would be interesting to hear what Zan thinks about it and what he expects us to tell our kids about it.

You tell your kids the truth for once and not start in the year 1975.......The flag is there to answer your call of "TRNC/KKTC and the TCs do not exist". IT is there for every tourist to see, even at night that we do and we are not going away. We are not going to become the forgotten people looking for handouts when people feel guilty about how we are being treated. Like other things in the war against your propaganda it is something that is tasteless but necessary. It has a purpose. You stopped us displaying anything about ourselves as far as the London underground and hoped that you would make us disappear. Although we are now advertising on the underground you still stop us through pressure anywhere else and that cannot happen in the TRNC/KKTC......Every one that sees it is curious and will find out why so it serves its purpose.....We Exist and we will not go away.

SO..you want me to tell my kid that Pac-man is there because the TC's exist?

[halil]

Deniz,
to understand education systems in Cyprus (about history books) just reading this report :SMALL IMAGINATIONS: GREEK CYPRIOT CHILDREN'S CONSTRUCTIONS OF "THE TURK''
by
Spyros Spyrou
Cyprus College, Nicosia, Cyprus .
http://www.lse.ac.uk/collections/EPIC/d ... Spyrou.pdf
and reading history book that Turkish Cypriots Education web site will show you clear map.
http://www.mebnet.net/Kitaplar/

[zan]

Seriously Zan, how do you explain the flag? What exactly would you like us to tell our kids about this flag?

I think the flag on the mountains of Cyprus is a bloody disgrace , such crude exhibitionism is usually the byproduct of third world mentality and certainly not compatible with Zan's vision of a new world !!!

Still it would be interesting to hear what Zan thinks about it and what he expects us to tell our kids about it.

You tell your kids the truth for once and not start in the year 1975.......The flag is there to answer your call of "TRNC/KKTC and the TCs do not exist". IT is there for every tourist to see, even at night that we do and we are not going away. We are not going to become the forgotten people looking for handouts when people feel guilty about how we are being treated. Like other things in the war against your propaganda it is something that is tasteless but necessary. It has a purpose. You stopped us displaying anything about ourselves as far as the London underground and hoped that you would make us disappear. Although we are now advertising on the underground you still stop us through pressure anywhere else and that cannot happen in the TRNC/KKTC......Every one that sees it is curious and will find out why so it serves its purpose.....We Exist and we will not go away.

SO..you want me to tell my kid that Pac-man is there because the TC's exist?

Sticks in your throat doesn't it........You guys love taking things out of context and using individual items to make it seem as if we are just playing games here. Your propaganda of 4 decades tried to wipe us out one way or another and we are resisting.....OR...Do you believe the theory that GR likes to quote about us being the weaker of the races.....


I love your posts DT...Veiled attempts at justifying underhanded attempts at wiping our rights out of the constitution........

[DT.]

Deniz, thanks for the story.

What is more alarming right now however is how the teenage minds are formed as well. These are the kids that are just about to join the army and the enviroment they grow up in is not a healthy one to this day.

Take ths website for example
www.greekmurderers.net A normal thinking human being would ignore this type of crap, teenagers however will not.

In fact the only adult that i know that uses this typ of website is Zan who's been caught quoting from it a number of times. Now you tell me, what more dangerous?

[denizaksulu]

Deniz,
to understand education systems in Cyprus (about history books) just reading this report :SMALL IMAGINATIONS: GREEK CYPRIOT CHILDREN'S CONSTRUCTIONS OF "THE TURK''
by
Spyros Spyrou
Cyprus College, Nicosia, Cyprus .
http://www.lse.ac.uk/collections/EPIC/d ... Spyrou.pdf
and reading history book that Turkish Cypriots Education web site will show you clear map.
http://www.mebnet.net/Kitaplar/

Thanks Halil. I think I should retire to be able to read and digest all the links provided by members.

[zan]

Deniz, thanks for the story.

What is more alarming right now however is how the teenage minds are formed as well. These are the kids that are just about to join the army and the enviroment they grow up in is not a healthy one to this day.

Take ths website for example
www.greekmurderers.net A normal thinking human being would ignore this type of crap, teenagers however will not.

In fact the only adult that i know that uses this typ of website is Zan who's been caught quoting from it a number of times. Now you tell me, what more dangerous?

Don't like what you read then attack the messenger.....You are squirming mister calm and I love it.......I take reality and shove it down your throat and you try to justify Greek teachings by blaming the teenagers themselves........How about you reform your education system so these teenagers are not so easily corrupted Mr President. How about you tell your army and your church to teach peace and harmony and what you did to us in 1963 so that they can form their opinions on that instead of just what happened in 1974....Won't do it will ya lover!!!!.. Blame the kids, blame the TCs and blame the cat....Responsible people like you are washing their hands as we speak and making speeches to clear their name....hehehehehehe

[DT.]

Deniz, thanks for the story.

What is more alarming right now however is how the teenage minds are formed as well. These are the kids that are just about to join the army and the enviroment they grow up in is not a healthy one to this day.

Take ths website for example
www.greekmurderers.net A normal thinking human being would ignore this type of crap, teenagers however will not.

In fact the only adult that i know that uses this typ of website is Zan who's been caught quoting from it a number of times. Now you tell me, what more dangerous?

Don't like what you read then attack the messenger.....You are squirming mister calm and I love it.......I take reality and shove it down your throat and you try to justify Greek teachings by blaming the teenagers themselves........How about you reform your education system so these teenagers are not so easily corrupted Mr President. How about you tell your army and your church to teach peace and harmony and what you did to us in 1963 so that they can form their opinions on that instead of just what happened in 1974....Won't do it will ya lover!!!!.. Blame the kids, blame the TCs and blame the cat....Responsible people like you are washing their hands as we speak and making speeches to clear their name....hehehehehehe

I see I've upset you. I'm truly sorry.

The point I'm making Zan is you'll never be able to convince anyone,let alone kids that Turks are not the "bad"guys while you hold onto their parents homes. Even if you did change the education system (not sure if this happens or not since i didn't go to greek school) then you'll have the same effect on kids. Why? Cause the cliche "Turk" is pointing 40,000 guns at them, brought Anatolian farmers into their homes and has painted a big cartoon on a mountain to rub it in.

I'm afraid, saying anything different to their kids is an uphill battle.

you on the other hand should know better than to use websites such as www.greekmurderers.net for your information.

[denizaksulu]

Deniz, thanks for the story.

What is more alarming right now however is how the teenage minds are formed as well. These are the kids that are just about to join the army and the enviroment they grow up in is not a healthy one to this day.

Take ths website for example
www.greekmurderers.net A normal thinking human being would ignore this type of crap, teenagers however will not.

In fact the only adult that i know that uses this typ of website is Zan who's been caught quoting from it a number of times. Now you tell me, what more dangerous?

I have noted that you have not ignored that web site. Unfortunately such sites, anti Turk anti Greek are plentyful. Dont you think that OrPh is a subscriber to these sites.

Seriously I dont think Zan needs these sites. He talks through his heart and I do not necessarily agree with everything he says.

[zan]

Deniz, thanks for the story.

What is more alarming right now however is how the teenage minds are formed as well. These are the kids that are just about to join the army and the enviroment they grow up in is not a healthy one to this day.

Take ths website for example
www.greekmurderers.net A normal thinking human being would ignore this type of crap, teenagers however will not.

In fact the only adult that i know that uses this typ of website is Zan who's been caught quoting from it a number of times. Now you tell me, what more dangerous?

Don't like what you read then attack the messenger.....You are squirming mister calm and I love it.......I take reality and shove it down your throat and you try to justify Greek teachings by blaming the teenagers themselves........How about you reform your education system so these teenagers are not so easily corrupted Mr President. How about you tell your army and your church to teach peace and harmony and what you did to us in 1963 so that they can form their opinions on that instead of just what happened in 1974....Won't do it will ya lover!!!!.. Blame the kids, blame the TCs and blame the cat....Responsible people like you are washing their hands as we speak and making speeches to clear their name....hehehehehehe

I see I've upset you. I'm truly sorry.

The point I'm making Zan is you'll never be able to convince anyone,let alone kids that Turks are not the "bad"guys while you hold onto their parents homes. Even if you did change the education system (not sure if this happens or not since i didn't go to greek school) then you'll have the same effect on kids. Why? Cause the cliche "Turk" is pointing 40,000 guns at them, brought Anatolian farmers into their homes and has painted a big cartoon on a mountain to rub it in.

I'm afraid, saying anything different to their kids is an uphill battle.

you on the other hand should know better than to use websites such as www.greekmurderers.net for your information.

The squirming continues If I thought for one minute that you are as confused and amateurish like the GR and the Oracle, I would actually take the time and explain to you what the "quoting" from that site was about but I know you already know so I will not waste your time or mine.


The fact that these kids were taught about the houses being taken away and not told why is testament as to how you brainwash your children in the first place DT so stop playing games that you will not win....Your analogy about the struggle being against gravity shows the place you have driven your children in the first place and now claim victim status and throw your hands up in amazement......Try giving birth at the top of the hill and then pushing the pram not be so hard......You are so in control the one minute and then in free fall the next when it suits you......Squirm squirm squirm!!!!!

[DT.]

Deniz, thanks for the story.

What is more alarming right now however is how the teenage minds are formed as well. These are the kids that are just about to join the army and the enviroment they grow up in is not a healthy one to this day.

Take ths website for example
www.greekmurderers.net A normal thinking human being would ignore this type of crap, teenagers however will not.

In fact the only adult that i know that uses this typ of website is Zan who's been caught quoting from it a number of times. Now you tell me, what more dangerous?

I have noted that you have not ignored that web site. Unfortunately such sites, anti Turk anti Greek are plentyful. Dont you think that OrPh is a subscriber to these sites.

Seriously I dont think Zan needs these sites. He talks through his heart and I do not necessarily agree with everything he says.

Thats what i keep telling him as well! I respect what he says when it comes from him, but not when he quotes ridiculous sites such as that one.