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Postby Oracle » Thu Feb 28, 2008 9:43 am

Piratis wrote:
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Piratis wrote:Zan, stop hiding behind your finger please.

Hate between the two communities is what serves the Turkish aim of partition.

Yes, the ongoing occupation naturally creates some hate among the victims, but definitely the policy of RoC is not hate against TCs since the aim of our side is re-unification. Our education is not directed against TCs. Against Turkey and their invasion and occupation yes, against TCs no. Even your crimes against us are almost muted intentionally.


That crap used to work years ago but has been exposed for what it is Piratis.....The education system as well as any other system has been run by EOKA members for decades and their aims are clearly marked. Every young GC that comes onto this forum is testament to that. There are very few GCs here that have had a clue as to what happened before 1974 and the world that I live in is the same. I spoke to an English guy today that did not even know about British soldiers being killed by GCs let alone what happened to us TCs....Your propaganda has worked well up to now but will not any longer. We have a history as well and when I get a seven year old GC at a friends party telling me that we TCs took Cyprus away from him then the reality is there for all to see.


Zan, while what I say is based on truth and facts, because I studied in those schools, what you say is based on your usual propaganda.

Just because you keep brainwashing your children with one sided and over-exaggerated propaganda about what happened in a mere decade half century ago in order to cultivate hate against Greek Cypriots this doesn't mean we should do the same. It is your aim to spread hate between the two communities, not ours. Or maybe in your history books you mention that the intercommunal conflict was started by TCs in 1957, and that TMT has also killed 100s of innocent Greek Cypriots? I bet you don't.

About the 7 year old I doubt he said "TCs". He probably said Turks, and that would be nothing but the truth. The Turks took the northern part of our country, ethnically cleansed it from most Cypriots, replaced them with mainland Turks, changed the names of our towns and villages, destroyed our churches and everything else Greek and Christian, and declared that part of our island as supposedly being Turkish.

When you put a huge flag right on our face to remind us the above it is funny to come and accuse our education because people naturally hate the invadors.


You are so right Piratis!

It was exactly this flag and seeing it for the first time that made my 10 year old start asking the most emotive questions about the Turkish Invasion. This graphic display of conquer and rule really grabs the visual imagination of children.

It is the worst PR exercise in Human History.

How could I justify to a 10 year old that a country could stoop so low, as to deface a mountainside to brand its trophy, the seizure of half a country and removal of its people, with its own label.

Consult "Saatchi and Saatchi" Turkey ..... you have bad taste! :roll:
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Postby zan » Thu Feb 28, 2008 9:43 am

DT. wrote:
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Piratis wrote:
zan wrote:
Piratis wrote:Zan, stop hiding behind your finger please.

Hate between the two communities is what serves the Turkish aim of partition.

Yes, the ongoing occupation naturally creates some hate among the victims, but definitely the policy of RoC is not hate against TCs since the aim of our side is re-unification. Our education is not directed against TCs. Against Turkey and their invasion and occupation yes, against TCs no. Even your crimes against us are almost muted intentionally.


That crap used to work years ago but has been exposed for what it is Piratis.....The education system as well as any other system has been run by EOKA members for decades and their aims are clearly marked. Every young GC that comes onto this forum is testament to that. There are very few GCs here that have had a clue as to what happened before 1974 and the world that I live in is the same. I spoke to an English guy today that did not even know about British soldiers being killed by GCs let alone what happened to us TCs....Your propaganda has worked well up to now but will not any longer. We have a history as well and when I get a seven year old GC at a friends party telling me that we TCs took Cyprus away from him then the reality is there for all to see.


Zan, while what I say is based on truth and facts, because I studied in those schools, what you say is based on your usual propaganda.

Just because you keep brainwashing your children with one sided and over-exaggerated propaganda about what happened in a mere decade half century ago in order to cultivate hate against Greek Cypriots this doesn't mean we should do the same. It is your aim to spread hate between the two communities, not ours. Or maybe in your history books you mention that the intercommunal conflict was started by TCs in 1957, and that TMT has also killed 100s of innocent Greek Cypriots? I bet you don't.

About the 7 year old I doubt he said "TCs". He probably said Turks, and that would be nothing but the truth. The Turks took the northern part of our country, ethnically cleansed it from most Cypriots, replaced them with mainland Turks, changed the names of our towns and villages, destroyed our churches and everything else Greek and Christian, and declared that part of our island as supposedly being Turkish.

When you put a huge flag right on our face to remind us the above it is funny to come and accuse our education because people naturally hate the invadors.


Funny how you know what this kid said and I and my good friend don't when he was there and you clearly were not :roll: :roll: :lol: :lol: :lol:


AND.....You have just said the opposite of what I said and then claimed it as your own......The evidence is there with every post you guys make... :arrow: :arrow: :arrow:


I'm seriously starting to believe that he really doesn't read what he writes! :shock:


As long as you read it and don't like it then I am happy!!!! :twisted:
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Postby zan » Thu Feb 28, 2008 9:47 am

Oracle wrote:
Piratis wrote:
zan wrote:
Piratis wrote:Zan, stop hiding behind your finger please.

Hate between the two communities is what serves the Turkish aim of partition.

Yes, the ongoing occupation naturally creates some hate among the victims, but definitely the policy of RoC is not hate against TCs since the aim of our side is re-unification. Our education is not directed against TCs. Against Turkey and their invasion and occupation yes, against TCs no. Even your crimes against us are almost muted intentionally.


That crap used to work years ago but has been exposed for what it is Piratis.....The education system as well as any other system has been run by EOKA members for decades and their aims are clearly marked. Every young GC that comes onto this forum is testament to that. There are very few GCs here that have had a clue as to what happened before 1974 and the world that I live in is the same. I spoke to an English guy today that did not even know about British soldiers being killed by GCs let alone what happened to us TCs....Your propaganda has worked well up to now but will not any longer. We have a history as well and when I get a seven year old GC at a friends party telling me that we TCs took Cyprus away from him then the reality is there for all to see.


Zan, while what I say is based on truth and facts, because I studied in those schools, what you say is based on your usual propaganda.

Just because you keep brainwashing your children with one sided and over-exaggerated propaganda about what happened in a mere decade half century ago in order to cultivate hate against Greek Cypriots this doesn't mean we should do the same. It is your aim to spread hate between the two communities, not ours. Or maybe in your history books you mention that the intercommunal conflict was started by TCs in 1957, and that TMT has also killed 100s of innocent Greek Cypriots? I bet you don't.

About the 7 year old I doubt he said "TCs". He probably said Turks, and that would be nothing but the truth. The Turks took the northern part of our country, ethnically cleansed it from most Cypriots, replaced them with mainland Turks, changed the names of our towns and villages, destroyed our churches and everything else Greek and Christian, and declared that part of our island as supposedly being Turkish.

When you put a huge flag right on our face to remind us the above it is funny to come and accuse our education because people naturally hate the invadors.


You are so right Piratis!

It was exactly this flag and seeing it for the first time that made my 10 year old start asking the most emotive questions about the Turkish Invasion. This graphic display of conquer and rule really grabs the visual imagination of children.

It is the worst PR exercise in Human History.

How could I justify to a 10 year old that a country could stoop so low, as to deface a mountainside to brand its trophy, the seizure of half a country and removal of its people, with its own label.

Consult "Saatchi and Saatchi" Turkey ..... you have bad taste! :roll:


So who does the work in the south then!!! Hans Fritzsche :evil:
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Postby Oracle » Thu Feb 28, 2008 9:47 am

zan wrote:
DT. wrote:
zan wrote:
Piratis wrote:
zan wrote:
Piratis wrote:Zan, stop hiding behind your finger please.

Hate between the two communities is what serves the Turkish aim of partition.

Yes, the ongoing occupation naturally creates some hate among the victims, but definitely the policy of RoC is not hate against TCs since the aim of our side is re-unification. Our education is not directed against TCs. Against Turkey and their invasion and occupation yes, against TCs no. Even your crimes against us are almost muted intentionally.


That crap used to work years ago but has been exposed for what it is Piratis.....The education system as well as any other system has been run by EOKA members for decades and their aims are clearly marked. Every young GC that comes onto this forum is testament to that. There are very few GCs here that have had a clue as to what happened before 1974 and the world that I live in is the same. I spoke to an English guy today that did not even know about British soldiers being killed by GCs let alone what happened to us TCs....Your propaganda has worked well up to now but will not any longer. We have a history as well and when I get a seven year old GC at a friends party telling me that we TCs took Cyprus away from him then the reality is there for all to see.


Zan, while what I say is based on truth and facts, because I studied in those schools, what you say is based on your usual propaganda.

Just because you keep brainwashing your children with one sided and over-exaggerated propaganda about what happened in a mere decade half century ago in order to cultivate hate against Greek Cypriots this doesn't mean we should do the same. It is your aim to spread hate between the two communities, not ours. Or maybe in your history books you mention that the intercommunal conflict was started by TCs in 1957, and that TMT has also killed 100s of innocent Greek Cypriots? I bet you don't.

About the 7 year old I doubt he said "TCs". He probably said Turks, and that would be nothing but the truth. The Turks took the northern part of our country, ethnically cleansed it from most Cypriots, replaced them with mainland Turks, changed the names of our towns and villages, destroyed our churches and everything else Greek and Christian, and declared that part of our island as supposedly being Turkish.

When you put a huge flag right on our face to remind us the above it is funny to come and accuse our education because people naturally hate the invadors.


Funny how you know what this kid said and I and my good friend don't when he was there and you clearly were not :roll: :roll: :lol: :lol: :lol:


AND.....You have just said the opposite of what I said and then claimed it as your own......The evidence is there with every post you guys make... :arrow: :arrow: :arrow:


I'm seriously starting to believe that he really doesn't read what he writes! :shock:


As long as you read it and don't like it then I am happy!!!! :twisted:


Yeah, we know you care not for whether what you say is true or accurate!

Spoken like the true fascist-propagandist that you are Zan.
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Postby zan » Thu Feb 28, 2008 9:50 am

Oracle wrote:
zan wrote:
DT. wrote:
zan wrote:
Piratis wrote:
zan wrote:
Piratis wrote:Zan, stop hiding behind your finger please.

Hate between the two communities is what serves the Turkish aim of partition.

Yes, the ongoing occupation naturally creates some hate among the victims, but definitely the policy of RoC is not hate against TCs since the aim of our side is re-unification. Our education is not directed against TCs. Against Turkey and their invasion and occupation yes, against TCs no. Even your crimes against us are almost muted intentionally.


That crap used to work years ago but has been exposed for what it is Piratis.....The education system as well as any other system has been run by EOKA members for decades and their aims are clearly marked. Every young GC that comes onto this forum is testament to that. There are very few GCs here that have had a clue as to what happened before 1974 and the world that I live in is the same. I spoke to an English guy today that did not even know about British soldiers being killed by GCs let alone what happened to us TCs....Your propaganda has worked well up to now but will not any longer. We have a history as well and when I get a seven year old GC at a friends party telling me that we TCs took Cyprus away from him then the reality is there for all to see.


Zan, while what I say is based on truth and facts, because I studied in those schools, what you say is based on your usual propaganda.

Just because you keep brainwashing your children with one sided and over-exaggerated propaganda about what happened in a mere decade half century ago in order to cultivate hate against Greek Cypriots this doesn't mean we should do the same. It is your aim to spread hate between the two communities, not ours. Or maybe in your history books you mention that the intercommunal conflict was started by TCs in 1957, and that TMT has also killed 100s of innocent Greek Cypriots? I bet you don't.

About the 7 year old I doubt he said "TCs". He probably said Turks, and that would be nothing but the truth. The Turks took the northern part of our country, ethnically cleansed it from most Cypriots, replaced them with mainland Turks, changed the names of our towns and villages, destroyed our churches and everything else Greek and Christian, and declared that part of our island as supposedly being Turkish.

When you put a huge flag right on our face to remind us the above it is funny to come and accuse our education because people naturally hate the invadors.


Funny how you know what this kid said and I and my good friend don't when he was there and you clearly were not :roll: :roll: :lol: :lol: :lol:


AND.....You have just said the opposite of what I said and then claimed it as your own......The evidence is there with every post you guys make... :arrow: :arrow: :arrow:


I'm seriously starting to believe that he really doesn't read what he writes! :shock:


As long as you read it and don't like it then I am happy!!!! :twisted:


Yeah, we know you care not for whether what you say is true or accurate!

Spoken like the true fascist-propagandist that you are Zan.



OHH! Kind words from you at last...Thank you Frau Spinster!!!
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Postby DT. » Thu Feb 28, 2008 9:55 am

Seriously Zan, how do you explain the flag? What exactly would you like us to tell our kids about this flag?
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Postby miltiades » Thu Feb 28, 2008 10:09 am

DT. wrote:Seriously Zan, how do you explain the flag? What exactly would you like us to tell our kids about this flag?

I think the flag on the mountains of Cyprus is a bloody disgrace , such crude exhibitionism is usually the byproduct of third world mentality and certainly not compatible with Zan's vision of a new world !!!
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Postby DT. » Thu Feb 28, 2008 10:24 am

miltiades wrote:
DT. wrote:Seriously Zan, how do you explain the flag? What exactly would you like us to tell our kids about this flag?

I think the flag on the mountains of Cyprus is a bloody disgrace , such crude exhibitionism is usually the byproduct of third world mentality and certainly not compatible with Zan's vision of a new world !!!


Still it would be interesting to hear what Zan thinks about it and what he expects us to tell our kids about it.
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Postby denizaksulu » Thu Feb 28, 2008 10:26 am

zan wrote:
Oracle wrote:
Piratis wrote:
zan wrote:
Piratis wrote:Zan, stop hiding behind your finger please.

Hate between the two communities is what serves the Turkish aim of partition.

Yes, the ongoing occupation naturally creates some hate among the victims, but definitely the policy of RoC is not hate against TCs since the aim of our side is re-unification. Our education is not directed against TCs. Against Turkey and their invasion and occupation yes, against TCs no. Even your crimes against us are almost muted intentionally.


That crap used to work years ago but has been exposed for what it is Piratis.....The education system as well as any other system has been run by EOKA members for decades and their aims are clearly marked. Every young GC that comes onto this forum is testament to that. There are very few GCs here that have had a clue as to what happened before 1974 and the world that I live in is the same. I spoke to an English guy today that did not even know about British soldiers being killed by GCs let alone what happened to us TCs....Your propaganda has worked well up to now but will not any longer. We have a history as well and when I get a seven year old GC at a friends party telling me that we TCs took Cyprus away from him then the reality is there for all to see.


Zan, while what I say is based on truth and facts, because I studied in those schools, what you say is based on your usual propaganda.

Just because you keep brainwashing your children with one sided and over-exaggerated propaganda about what happened in a mere decade half century ago in order to cultivate hate against Greek Cypriots this doesn't mean we should do the same. It is your aim to spread hate between the two communities, not ours. Or maybe in your history books you mention that the intercommunal conflict was started by TCs in 1957, and that TMT has also killed 100s of innocent Greek Cypriots? I bet you don't.

About the 7 year old I doubt he said "TCs". He probably said Turks, and that would be nothing but the truth. The Turks took the northern part of our country, ethnically cleansed it from most Cypriots, replaced them with mainland Turks, changed the names of our towns and villages, destroyed our churches and everything else Greek and Christian, and declared that part of our island as supposedly being Turkish.

When you put a huge flag right on our face to remind us the above it is funny to come and accuse our education because people naturally hate the invadors.


You are so right Piratis!

It was exactly this flag and seeing it for the first time that made my 10 year old start asking the most emotive questions about the Turkish Invasion. This graphic display of conquer and rule really grabs the visual imagination of children.

It is the worst PR exercise in Human History.

How could I justify to a 10 year old that a country could stoop so low, as to deface a mountainside to brand its trophy, the seizure of half a country and removal of its people, with its own label.

Consult "Saatchi and Saatchi" Turkey ..... you have bad taste! :roll:


So who does the work in the south then!!! Hans Fritzsche :evil:



I know two wrongs dont make one right.

My view of the mountainside flags are known. Apart from agitating the GCs they serve no useful purpose other than reminding them of what the GC education system has done to ensure that Partition takes place.

In the fifties we (GC and TC boys) would play football, marbles, Lingiri, go hunting (Ambelopoulia on lime sticks) and occasionally wrestling matches. (unfortunately, unlike now I was too skinny to win, I remember losing to Zino)When we began attending secondary school everything changed. No longer were there any shouts calling us TCs to come out and do the things we always did. We would see our 'friends' (GC) and they would cross the road to avoid you. You called them and they ignored you. At our age 12-13 we would find this puzzling. I mentioned this to my grandparents who asked around and was told by her GC friends that it was the new teachers from Greece who were educating them and teaching 'hatred' towards the Turk. Ofcourse we became the targets for their 'newly discovered hatred'. Naturally the older people would ignore these and continued to behave in the normal manner. But the new generation of Turk hater was another thing.

At secondary schools and Lyce we studied a lot of history, including Turkish History and the 'glorious past' but never was hatred towards the Greeks or GCs mentioned. It still rankles me that in such a short period once friends can be your 'enemy'. The flag on the mountain came at least 35 years after the events I talk about. What a shame. Nationalism has a lot to answer for.

What I write is not propaganda, it is just my observation and experience.

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Postby zan » Thu Feb 28, 2008 10:37 am

DT. wrote:
miltiades wrote:
DT. wrote:Seriously Zan, how do you explain the flag? What exactly would you like us to tell our kids about this flag?

I think the flag on the mountains of Cyprus is a bloody disgrace , such crude exhibitionism is usually the byproduct of third world mentality and certainly not compatible with Zan's vision of a new world !!!


Still it would be interesting to hear what Zan thinks about it and what he expects us to tell our kids about it.



You tell your kids the truth for once and not start in the year 1975.......The flag is there to answer your call of "TRNC/KKTC and the TCs do not exist". IT is there for every tourist to see, even at night that we do and we are not going away. We are not going to become the forgotten people looking for handouts when people feel guilty about how we are being treated. Like other things in the war against your propaganda it is something that is tasteless but necessary. It has a purpose. You stopped us displaying anything about ourselves as far as the London underground and hoped that you would make us disappear. Although we are now advertising on the underground you still stop us through pressure anywhere else and that cannot happen in the TRNC/KKTC......Every one that sees it is curious and will find out why so it serves its purpose.....We Exist and we will not go away.
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