zan wrote:pantheman wrote:DT, Zan, you guys can go on until you go blue in the face, but you both know as well as Iand the rest of the world know, that Talat has no power or authority about the cyprus solution. Its no secret. Turkey will say what goes and if THEY don't get what THEY want then the TCs AND GCs are both fucked Again.
This is all about Turkey not the TCs, their needs have now been diluted by Turkey, but for some strange reason they keep on thinking they are in charge.
WAKE UP ZAN.
And I don't like the sound of this time limit either, its an unecessary pressure point that the west and Turkey tried on TPAP just before we signed up to the EU. Trying to get him to sign upto the Ankara Plan very very quickly so we don't really see what the hell we were letting ourselves in for.
No Mr Christofias (althought I didn't vote for you) don't be pressurised like that , agree a sulution by all means but only something that will be fair to both sides and however long it takes. Keep the dialogue going show willing and compromise but don't agree to be F***ed by these people.
ZAN, first become the masters in your own little pseudo satate, then come to the negotiating table, otherwise we are wasting our time.
That is just a comfort zone that you have adopted and have difficulty in letting go of Panthe. We have had no choice but to work with Turkey and some cases have had to bow to pressure from them. You have not given us the choice...The siege has not given us the choice so stop this rubbish about sorting out our internal problems. Turkey is not going anywhere without a solution and we have no hate of Turkey as you seem to portray of Greece. When we sit back and look at the situation, then Turkey has seen to our fighting for our rights and not being forced to give in to unfair solutions. We have no delusions that Turkey and Greece have interests in Cyprus and they must be catered for. A reality check is hard for some to swallow but swallow it you will.
Your talk about Greece is just rubbish. You only mention Greece everytime to disguise the fact that Turkey in indeed interested in Cyprus. Where is Greece in all of this? I'll tell you, NO WHERE. They are not here, they are not importing tens of thousands of people illegally, they don't have tens of thousands of troops here and they are certainly not stopping you living or working here. So please spare us the Greece thing will you.
The Cyprus problem has always been and will be about Turkey getting hers claws back in it. Ever since they were forced to hand it over to the British its been a bitter pill to swallow. Its just your good fortune that we had some rotten eggs in our community that gave Turkey the excuse she need to come here. I bet she has been laughing eversince.
Now, The TCs, poor souls, yes you have had to bow to turkey, but you have been bowing and bending for as long as i care to recall. you have NO say in this problem. This is between the RoC and Turkey mate and in your own words (not mine)
"A reality check is hard for some to swallow but swallow it you will"