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negotiations on the Cyprus Problem could start after April

How can we solve it? (keep it civilized)

Postby zan » Wed Feb 27, 2008 4:53 pm

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DT. wrote:Its a threat that we better agree with talat or you'll set the dogs on us :roll:

Now how about answering as a simple yes or no. DOes Talat have compassion and regret about what happened?


OK then! YES!!!!!!!! Now what :?:


Whats he so guilty about?


I didn't say he was "SO" guilty but he did steal a pencil from school once and he bitterly regrets it :roll:
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Postby DT. » Wed Feb 27, 2008 4:56 pm

zan wrote:
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zan wrote:
DT. wrote:Its a threat that we better agree with talat or you'll set the dogs on us :roll:

Now how about answering as a simple yes or no. DOes Talat have compassion and regret about what happened?


OK then! YES!!!!!!!! Now what :?:


Whats he so guilty about?


I didn't say he was "SO" guilty but he did steal a pencil from school once and he bitterly regrets it :roll:


I'll ignre your last childish comment and give you the credit for admitting something very important. Lets hope they both go into the meeting with clean hands.
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Postby zan » Wed Feb 27, 2008 4:57 pm

DT. wrote:
zan wrote:
DT. wrote:
zan wrote:
DT. wrote:Its a threat that we better agree with talat or you'll set the dogs on us :roll:

Now how about answering as a simple yes or no. DOes Talat have compassion and regret about what happened?


OK then! YES!!!!!!!! Now what :?:


Whats he so guilty about?


I didn't say he was "SO" guilty but he did steal a pencil from school once and he bitterly regrets it :roll:


I'll ignre your last childish comment and give you the credit for admitting something very important. Lets hope they both go into the meeting with clean hands.


Now thats a hope we can both share!!!!!
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Postby pantheman » Wed Feb 27, 2008 6:03 pm

DT, Zan, you guys can go on until you go blue in the face, but you both know as well as Iand the rest of the world know, that Talat has no power or authority about the cyprus solution. Its no secret. Turkey will say what goes and if THEY don't get what THEY want then the TCs AND GCs are both fucked Again.

This is all about Turkey not the TCs, their needs have now been diluted by Turkey, but for some strange reason they keep on thinking they are in charge.

WAKE UP ZAN.

And I don't like the sound of this time limit either, its an unecessary pressure point that the west and Turkey tried on TPAP just before we signed up to the EU. Trying to get him to sign upto the Ankara Plan very very quickly so we don't really see what the hell we were letting ourselves in for.

No Mr Christofias (althought I didn't vote for you) don't be pressurised like that , agree a sulution by all means but only something that will be fair to both sides and however long it takes. Keep the dialogue going show willing and compromise but don't agree to be F***ed by these people.

ZAN, first become the masters in your own little pseudo satate, then come to the negotiating table, otherwise we are wasting our time.
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Postby zan » Wed Feb 27, 2008 6:35 pm

pantheman wrote:DT, Zan, you guys can go on until you go blue in the face, but you both know as well as Iand the rest of the world know, that Talat has no power or authority about the cyprus solution. Its no secret. Turkey will say what goes and if THEY don't get what THEY want then the TCs AND GCs are both fucked Again.

This is all about Turkey not the TCs, their needs have now been diluted by Turkey, but for some strange reason they keep on thinking they are in charge.

WAKE UP ZAN.

And I don't like the sound of this time limit either, its an unecessary pressure point that the west and Turkey tried on TPAP just before we signed up to the EU. Trying to get him to sign upto the Ankara Plan very very quickly so we don't really see what the hell we were letting ourselves in for.

No Mr Christofias (althought I didn't vote for you) don't be pressurised like that , agree a sulution by all means but only something that will be fair to both sides and however long it takes. Keep the dialogue going show willing and compromise but don't agree to be F***ed by these people.

ZAN, first become the masters in your own little pseudo satate, then come to the negotiating table, otherwise we are wasting our time.


That is just a comfort zone that you have adopted and have difficulty in letting go of Panthe. We have had no choice but to work with Turkey and some cases have had to bow to pressure from them. You have not given us the choice...The siege has not given us the choice so stop this rubbish about sorting out our internal problems. Turkey is not going anywhere without a solution and we have no hate of Turkey as you seem to portray of Greece. When we sit back and look at the situation, then Turkey has seen to our fighting for our rights and not being forced to give in to unfair solutions. We have no delusions that Turkey and Greece have interests in Cyprus and they must be catered for. A reality check is hard for some to swallow but swallow it you will.
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Postby pantheman » Wed Feb 27, 2008 6:48 pm

zan wrote:
pantheman wrote:DT, Zan, you guys can go on until you go blue in the face, but you both know as well as Iand the rest of the world know, that Talat has no power or authority about the cyprus solution. Its no secret. Turkey will say what goes and if THEY don't get what THEY want then the TCs AND GCs are both fucked Again.

This is all about Turkey not the TCs, their needs have now been diluted by Turkey, but for some strange reason they keep on thinking they are in charge.

WAKE UP ZAN.

And I don't like the sound of this time limit either, its an unecessary pressure point that the west and Turkey tried on TPAP just before we signed up to the EU. Trying to get him to sign upto the Ankara Plan very very quickly so we don't really see what the hell we were letting ourselves in for.

No Mr Christofias (althought I didn't vote for you) don't be pressurised like that , agree a sulution by all means but only something that will be fair to both sides and however long it takes. Keep the dialogue going show willing and compromise but don't agree to be F***ed by these people.

ZAN, first become the masters in your own little pseudo satate, then come to the negotiating table, otherwise we are wasting our time.


That is just a comfort zone that you have adopted and have difficulty in letting go of Panthe. We have had no choice but to work with Turkey and some cases have had to bow to pressure from them. You have not given us the choice...The siege has not given us the choice so stop this rubbish about sorting out our internal problems. Turkey is not going anywhere without a solution and we have no hate of Turkey as you seem to portray of Greece. When we sit back and look at the situation, then Turkey has seen to our fighting for our rights and not being forced to give in to unfair solutions. We have no delusions that Turkey and Greece have interests in Cyprus and they must be catered for. A reality check is hard for some to swallow but swallow it you will.


Your talk about Greece is just rubbish. You only mention Greece everytime to disguise the fact that Turkey in indeed interested in Cyprus. Where is Greece in all of this? I'll tell you, NO WHERE. They are not here, they are not importing tens of thousands of people illegally, they don't have tens of thousands of troops here and they are certainly not stopping you living or working here. So please spare us the Greece thing will you.

The Cyprus problem has always been and will be about Turkey getting hers claws back in it. Ever since they were forced to hand it over to the British its been a bitter pill to swallow. Its just your good fortune that we had some rotten eggs in our community that gave Turkey the excuse she need to come here. I bet she has been laughing eversince.

Now, The TCs, poor souls, yes you have had to bow to turkey, but you have been bowing and bending for as long as i care to recall. you have NO say in this problem. This is between the RoC and Turkey mate and in your own words (not mine) "A reality check is hard for some to swallow but swallow it you will"
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Postby zan » Wed Feb 27, 2008 6:55 pm

pantheman wrote:
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pantheman wrote:DT, Zan, you guys can go on until you go blue in the face, but you both know as well as Iand the rest of the world know, that Talat has no power or authority about the cyprus solution. Its no secret. Turkey will say what goes and if THEY don't get what THEY want then the TCs AND GCs are both fucked Again.

This is all about Turkey not the TCs, their needs have now been diluted by Turkey, but for some strange reason they keep on thinking they are in charge.

WAKE UP ZAN.

And I don't like the sound of this time limit either, its an unecessary pressure point that the west and Turkey tried on TPAP just before we signed up to the EU. Trying to get him to sign upto the Ankara Plan very very quickly so we don't really see what the hell we were letting ourselves in for.

No Mr Christofias (althought I didn't vote for you) don't be pressurised like that , agree a sulution by all means but only something that will be fair to both sides and however long it takes. Keep the dialogue going show willing and compromise but don't agree to be F***ed by these people.

ZAN, first become the masters in your own little pseudo satate, then come to the negotiating table, otherwise we are wasting our time.


That is just a comfort zone that you have adopted and have difficulty in letting go of Panthe. We have had no choice but to work with Turkey and some cases have had to bow to pressure from them. You have not given us the choice...The siege has not given us the choice so stop this rubbish about sorting out our internal problems. Turkey is not going anywhere without a solution and we have no hate of Turkey as you seem to portray of Greece. When we sit back and look at the situation, then Turkey has seen to our fighting for our rights and not being forced to give in to unfair solutions. We have no delusions that Turkey and Greece have interests in Cyprus and they must be catered for. A reality check is hard for some to swallow but swallow it you will.


Your talk about Greece is just rubbish. You only mention Greece everytime to disguise the fact that Turkey in indeed interested in Cyprus. Where is Greece in all of this? I'll tell you, NO WHERE. They are not here, they are not importing tens of thousands of people illegally, they don't have tens of thousands of troops here and they are certainly not stopping you living or working here. So please spare us the Greece thing will you.

The Cyprus problem has always been and will be about Turkey getting hers claws back in it. Ever since they were forced to hand it over to the British its been a bitter pill to swallow. Its just your good fortune that we had some rotten eggs in our community that gave Turkey the excuse she need to come here. I bet she has been laughing eversince.

Now, The TCs, poor souls, yes you have had to bow to turkey, but you have been bowing and bending for as long as i care to recall. you have NO say in this problem. This is between the RoC and Turkey mate and in your own words (not mine) "A reality check is hard for some to swallow but swallow it you will"


Keep gulping mate...It will go down eventually.......There are no TCs gagging to move into the "RoC" so I think you will find that this is between the TCs and the GCs with Turkey and Greece in the background...You have a common defense policy and Greek commanders training your army. Greece and Turkey are always there at any negotiations and at any possible solutions....They are interested in any money to be made by any resource we have. Tpap ran and reported every move and without the veto would not have gotten into the EU. I think the alarm bell is wringing on your side of the bed but you are still dreaming in glorious hellenic technicolor.
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Postby pantheman » Wed Feb 27, 2008 7:17 pm

Zan, you are full of shit, honestly. What a load of rubbish you write . Mate, you make uri geller look like a fairy with the bending of the facts that you can do.

You are not worth the time, bye bye.

Turkey is calling the shots and don't you forget it. Time will tell and I will be here to make you eat your humble pie.
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Postby zan » Wed Feb 27, 2008 7:24 pm

pantheman wrote:Zan, you are full of shit, honestly. What a load of rubbish you write . Mate, you make uri geller look like a fairy with the bending of the facts that you can do.

You are not worth the time, bye bye.

Turkey is calling the shots and don't you forget it. Time will tell and I will be here to make you eat your humble pie.


Gule Gule then my friend.....If you can't see what is happening right in front of your eyes then what can I say to you...I have already said that Turkey has had its moments but what were we supposed to do......Give them up and fall into your hands.......You would have loved that I bet...Sorry to put it that way but that is the way it is....You made us believe that Denktas was the problem but it was you guys.....Now even the nationalists most hated person in the shape of President Talat is seeing what he is up against.....Again..Sorry to break it to you but if you want to keep closing your eyes then you will eventually walk into something...Now try reading what I write and not what you think I have written...
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Postby Nikitas » Fri Feb 29, 2008 2:53 am

What is the alternative to Virgin Birth? And dont anyone get clever and tell me "getting fucked". Cause that is what Virgin Birth sounds like, only disguised.
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