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Postby Big Al » Thu Mar 06, 2008 3:39 am

Miltiades,
Typical greek verbal diarrhea(propoganda) spewing from your mouth, as soon as you dont agree with someones opinion they are "screwed up racsists". The flag i fly is hardly foreign you politically motivated twat, the TC flag and the turkish flag to me are one in the same. Your GC flag is foreign to me, understand???
United Cyprus under GC rule.....NEVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Turkey to remove its soldiers from Northern Cyprus......NEVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Removing the crescent star from out flag..............NEVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
If you dont like it then try and take north cyprus by force, otherwise SHUT THE F*&% UP!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Postby DT. » Thu Mar 06, 2008 8:34 am

Big Al wrote:Miltiades,
Typical greek verbal diarrhea(propoganda) spewing from your mouth, as soon as you dont agree with someones opinion they are "screwed up racsists". The flag i fly is hardly foreign you politically motivated twat, the TC flag and the turkish flag to me are one in the same. Your GC flag is foreign to me, understand???
Turkey to remove its soldiers from Northern Cyprus......NEVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Removing the crescent star from out flag..............NEVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
If you dont like it then try and take north cyprus by force, otherwise SHUT THE F*&% UP!!!!!!!!!!!!


We won't take back Cyprus by force....no need. You'll give all this stuff up you said "never" to by choice......you'll see :lol:
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Postby Oracle » Thu Mar 06, 2008 8:59 am

DT. wrote:
Big Al wrote:Miltiades,
Typical greek verbal diarrhea(propoganda) spewing from your mouth, as soon as you dont agree with someones opinion they are "screwed up racsists". The flag i fly is hardly foreign you politically motivated twat, the TC flag and the turkish flag to me are one in the same. Your GC flag is foreign to me, understand???
Turkey to remove its soldiers from Northern Cyprus......NEVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Removing the crescent star from out flag..............NEVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
If you dont like it then try and take north cyprus by force, otherwise SHUT THE F*&% UP!!!!!!!!!!!!


We won't take back Cyprus by force....no need. You'll give all this stuff up you said "never" to by choice......you'll see :lol:


And we will video them whilst they scrub the mountainside clean from their skato-symbol ... and put this on youtube because we know how much Turks love their youtube :lol:
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Postby miltiades » Thu Mar 06, 2008 9:51 am

Big Al wrote:Miltiades,
Typical greek verbal diarrhea(propoganda) spewing from your mouth, as soon as you dont agree with someones opinion they are "screwed up racsists". The flag i fly is hardly foreign you politically motivated twat, the TC flag and the turkish flag to me are one in the same. Your GC flag is foreign to me, understand???
United Cyprus under GC rule.....NEVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Turkey to remove its soldiers from Northern Cyprus......NEVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Removing the crescent star from out flag..............NEVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
If you dont like it then try and take north cyprus by force, otherwise SHUT THE F*&% UP!!!!!!!!!!!!

As I expected from an ignorant bloody foreigner mate. If The Turkish flag IS your flag then you are not a Cypriot anymore than any G/C flying the Greek flag , they also like you , are bloody foreigners in Cyprus .I do not have to take the occupied part of Cyprus by force , I already have , never lost it , by calling it my country and the country of all other Cypriots .
Let me tell you BigAl , a more suitable name for you would be BigAsshole !!
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Postby halil » Thu Mar 06, 2008 10:24 am

CHRISTOFIAS SAYS 8 JULY AGREEMENT SHOULD BE A STARTING POINT FOR NEGOTIATIONS
Meanwhile, the Greek Cypriot Leader Dimitris Christofias has said that the 8 July Agreement should be the start of a new negotiations process in Cyprus.

Mr Christofias was speaking during his visit to Athens where he met with Greek President Karolos Papoulias and Prime Minister Kostas Karamanlis.

Reports from Athens say that the Cyprus issue, bilateral relations and Turkey’s EU membership process were the main topics of the discussions being held by Mr Christofias in Athens.

On the UN-brokered peace plan or as it was called Annan Plan, Mr Christofias said that the UN Security Council, General secretariat and other concerned sides have been saying that the Plan does not exist in a clear form.

“Why should we bring it back to the agenda. For us, the starting point of every single initiative would be the 8 July Agreement. We are not talking about an arbitrator or a timetable` he said.

UNFICYP SPOKESPERSON LATEST DEVELOPMENTS GIVE REASON TO BE OPTIMISTIC FOR SOLUTION IN CYPRUS

The new spokesperson for the United Nations Peace Keeping Forces in Cyprus Jose Luis Diaz has said the latest developments on the Cyprus issue give people a reason to be optimistic for a solution in Cyprus.
Mr Diaz gave a reception for the press at the Ledra Palace Hotel in the UN-controlled buffer zone today.
Speaking to the BRT newsroom during the reception, Mr Diaz reiterated that the UN’s mission in Cyprus is aimed at providing a just and lasting settlement.

The newly appointed UNFICYP Spokesperson Jose Luis Diaz said it is a very exciting time to be in Cyprus with such a duty at a time when some significant developments are being seen on the Cyprus issue.

Stating that the latest developments give people a reason to be optimistic for a solution, Mr Diaz said the renewal of talks between the two leaders of the island will allow the hosting of a new negotiations process for a lasting settlement, adding that he was very much looking forward to the work for a solution.

Jose Luis Diaz – who is from the Dominican Republic - had recently served as the spokesperson for UN High Commissioner for Human Rights Louise Arbour in Geneva.
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Postby halil » Thu Mar 06, 2008 10:38 am

Power sharing

The key to a settlement on Cyprus, irrespective of how difficult it might be to swallow for the Greek Cypriot side, is their recognition of the reality that there are two equal people on the island and they have to share power with the Turkish Cypriots. And, for the Turkish Cypriots, though it will be rather painful to concede, they must understand that there is a direct relationship between the amount of land they will have and the administrative power they will share in a future settlement. Secondly, both Turkish Cypriots and Turkey must realize that withdrawal of the Turkish troops and at least a sizeable amount of the mainland Turks who have settled in northern Cyprus is in the cards if we want a settlement. Number of Greek Cypriots to be resettled in north, giving back pre-1974 properties, compensation and such other issues will not pose a serious difficulty if an agreement can be reached on power sharing, troops and settlers issues. Obviously, the end result will be a compromise deal, and neither side will be fully satisfied with it.

Since his election, particularly in his statement last Thursday as he was swearing in as president, Demetris Christofias put forward some hard-line conditions for peace. Similarly, in a letter to U.N. Secretary-General – just two days before the run-off presidential elections in southern Cyprus – Turkish Cypriot President Mehmet Ali Talat insisted that some demands of the Greek Cypriot side, through the media, condemned as not helping a settlement on the island.

While such developments made Cyprus observers rather pessimistic, indeed it is nothing abnormal for the two sides of the island to withdraw to their harshest rhetoric before indulging in any sort of a give-and-take process. That is why before the Cyprus talks plane take off each time we have identical flare ups on the island. The two sides are just preparing to negotiate...

Christofias is now in Athens, soon will travel to Brussels and early next week he will be on the island to finish of his last preparations for a meeting with Talat expected to be held in the Ledra Palace hotel – the U.N. headquarters in Nicosia buffer zone – before the end of this month.

Talat, on the other hand, will be traveling to Turkey today. After attending an event in Istanbul where he will receive the “statesman of the year” award by the Marmara University and then proceed to Ankara Thursday for a series of fine-tuning talks with President Abdullah Gül and Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdoğan.

All these indicate that there is a serious effort on both sides for the resumption of the Cyprus talks process. Indeed, this might be the last chance for a federal Cyprus.
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Postby Viewpoint » Thu Mar 06, 2008 11:07 am

That has to be made very clear that if this round of negotiating is not in good faith then they must know what they will loose and what the time fram is to reach a solution otherwise they will take another 45 years just to agree on the colour of the flag.
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Postby miltiades » Thu Mar 06, 2008 12:06 pm

Viewpoint wrote:That has to be made very clear that if this round of negotiating is not in good faith then they must know what they will loose and what the time fram is to reach a solution otherwise they will take another 45 years just to agree on the colour of the flag.

Lets hope that both Mr Christofias and Mr Talat have the courage and vision to strike for a solution that both of our communities will find acceptable.
For those that share my beliefs its not a problem recognising the equality of all Cypriots , the problem will be with those extremists and " Foreign" Cypriots who see their "motherlands " as the prime owners of Cyprus.
Let us hope that The Cypriots win the day !
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Postby DT. » Thu Mar 06, 2008 12:12 pm

Problem is that the TC's have a pt of gold at the end of the talks Rainbow.

If the talks fail the presure for recognition will be far greater (especially if there is a timeframe included).

Talat's words which have already been rehearsed in front of a mirror will be " We gave it our best shot however the GC intransigence and insistence on ludicrous ideals such as democracy and basic rights have proven that we will never agree. We now call for 2 state talks to begin and withdraw our support for a BBF."
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Postby Tim Drayton » Thu Mar 06, 2008 12:29 pm

halil wrote: Christofias is now in Athens, soon will travel to Brussels and early next week he will be on the island to finish of his last preparations for a meeting with Talat expected to be held in the Ledra Palace hotel – the U.N. headquarters in Nicosia buffer zone – before the end of this month.

Talat, on the other hand, will be traveling to Turkey today. After attending an event in Istanbul where he will receive the “statesman of the year” award by the Marmara University and then proceed to Ankara Thursday for a series of fine-tuning talks with President Abdullah Gül and Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdoğan.



So both leaders have gone to their respective motherlands to get their instructions.

I note with interest that Dora Bakoyannis is scheduled to visit Turkey on 8 March to open a symposium marking International Women's Day held by the women's section of the leading AKP party. Relations between the two motherlands seem to be getting more cordial nowadays. Let's hope the two leaders return from Athens and Ankara with instructions to follow suit and enter a meaningful dialogue!
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