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Postby Oracle » Wed Feb 27, 2008 3:45 pm

purdey wrote:It's there Phoenix,under your old user name.If memory serves it was with reference to the Scottish.


Show some commitment, present me with the evidence, if you want me to take you seriously. :D

But... are you sure I wasn't laughing at someone for ironing their jeans... that would make more sense coming from me, than making fun of someone for wearing un-ironed jeans.
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Postby michalis5354 » Wed Feb 27, 2008 3:54 pm

Albert Einstein was much respected for his kind and friendly demeanor rooted in his pacifism. He was modest about his abilities, and had distinctive attitudes and fashions—for example, he minimized his wardrobe so that he would not need to waste time in deciding on what to wear. He occasionally had a playful sense of humor, and enjoyed sailing and playing the violin. He was also the stereotypical "absent-minded professor"; he was often forgetful of everyday items, such as keys, and would focus so intently on solving physics problems that h ...


If Einstheim came to your interview you would reject him. Again we dont know If knowledge is a factor or not. If it is you made the wrong choice as the woman you employed showed that has no knowledge only appearance and then again you dont know If she trust her own words.
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Postby purdey » Wed Feb 27, 2008 4:11 pm

Of course it was not on appearance only,she has the knowledge just not the piece of paper with a 2/2 from a University.
I am afraid I put more stock in common sense,decent appearance and willingness to learn than I do a modern University degree.
Einstein,would not have got an interview,never mind a job.Playing around with theiories does not bring home the bacon...
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Postby michalis5354 » Wed Feb 27, 2008 4:19 pm

You know better of course. you were the one to see and judge! :D
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Postby Niki » Wed Feb 27, 2008 5:37 pm

The point is not that the interviewee could be asked to improve his dress code or time keeping but that the sloppiness shows an unhealthy attitude. I wouldn't have given him the job either and this has nothing to do with being old fashioned.

I have taken many people on through gut reaction. It's not just qualifications but how they could fit into the existing business and it's people, how they would be perceived by customers and their willingness to improve themselves in the company. It takes a lot of hard work to train and educate new staff in the ways of the business and this person with a bad attitude would probably have been looking for the next better paid job from day 1.
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Postby pantheman » Wed Feb 27, 2008 5:48 pm

Purdey,

Don't worry mate, I actually agree with you on this one.

Its all about attitude to work. CVs are nearly always well written if you have half a brain, but in real life is what counts. I have had people with first rate CVs who could pick their own noses without some direction.

If the guy was late, he may have had a valid reason, did you ask him?

dress wise, I would never embarrass someone like GR suggested, but to me it would be a black mark against him/her.

Posture/body language tells you about the person. I think you may have judged him correctly regardless of his qualifications and laguages. Look, when you take someone on , its supposed to be for life (or for a long time) the worst would be to take someone on, regret it and not be able to get rid of them.

I think you did OK, you have to feel right about the people you take on, they need to fit in to create the best working environment for everyone. Don't listen to the womanising accusations that just our little oracle being herself again. Aw, you naughty girl oracle.

In your shoes, I would probably have done the same about this guy.

Good luck
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Postby purdey » Wed Feb 27, 2008 5:52 pm

Thank you for that.Regarding the guy been late,we thought we would leave him to explain or appologise,he was not forthcoming with either..
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Re: Am I old fashioned ?

Postby Sega » Wed Feb 27, 2008 6:40 pm

purdey wrote:A few weeks ago I interviewed 7 people for a job in Cyprus.The job is mainly office based with some appointments out of office.
Today I recieved a rude letter from one candidate who never got the job.The guy was highly qualified,answered all the right questions,spoke three languages and would have been a assett in the workplace.
However he arrives at interview ten minutes late,was dressed in a unironed shirt,dirty trousers and looked unkempt.On appearance only he did not get the job.
I gave the job to a lady who was well presented,who was not qualified and only spoke one language but was prepared to learn another.


Dear purdey,

Maybe you should send me a letter explaining why you did not hire him, title it interviewing feedback, and send it recorded delivery.

I went to a number of interviews and did not get a job out of them, actually I went to around 14, I was begging my interviewers for feedback, most of them ignored me. But in order to improve you have to accept criticism, you have to say to yourself "I am not the best" to become better. Somebody who thinks he is perfect has lost the game before he has begun.

Appearance is vital in interviews, as for the CV being impressive, well this comes without say. In fact I produced a generic CV where I can mass send it to all employees, and it's still very impressive. As for the languages, was this an important fact of your job? If this is so, maybe this is why he feels like this.

You need to appreaciate that job hunting is a hard time for the person, it is linked to the individuals self worth. Maybe it's not the first rejection he has had and he's taking it hard. Maybe if he realised he has control on whether he gets hired or not would change his outlook.

Maybe the chap thought you would hire him based on a CV, you need to explain him that this is not the case.

Hope this has shed light on the subject.
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Postby purdey » Wed Feb 27, 2008 6:48 pm

Dear Sega,
always polite and to the point.
We always give feedback over the phone and are always willing to answer any questions.On this occassion the guy in question,started badly,and never really recovered.I think he thought because of his qualifications and some experience,the interview would be a breeze.
Thank you for your comments.
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Postby Sega » Wed Feb 27, 2008 6:58 pm

purdey wrote:Dear Sega,
always polite and to the point.
We always give feedback over the phone and are always willing to answer any questions.On this occassion the guy in question,started badly,and never really recovered.I think he thought because of his qualifications and some experience,the interview would be a breeze.
Thank you for your comments.


If this is the case, your far more proffesional than most companies. You are a credit to the employment world. Interviews are never a breeze, answering the questions is a vital process.

Don't worry, he took it bad, it does not matter. The first interview I went for I took it terribly, now I don't care whether I am hired on not. It's all about what the inteviewer thinks. The only letters I write after interviews are thank you letters, thanking the interviewer for his time and how I am stilll interested in the position.

hehe :lol: polite and to the point, it's living in the UK that did that :lol:

Thanks :lol:
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