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Re: In case of a solution, will settlers vote in a referendu

Postby zan » Wed Feb 27, 2008 11:42 am

DT. wrote:
zan wrote:
DT. wrote:Especially if there is an agreement for the repatriation of a large number of them.



Which side?????


Please be more specific. Are you talking about EU citizens on our side? The Pontians in Paphos? The Sri Lankan housekeepers?

How about you being more specific for a change :wink: As for EU citizens.......All Cypriots are.........Now you separate which ones you are referring to, as if I didn't know, and we can start to nitpick. Nikitas has already taken you out of the equation and secured me a payoff!!! 8) :lol: :lol:
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Re: In case of a solution, will settlers vote in a referendu

Postby DT. » Wed Feb 27, 2008 11:44 am

zan wrote:
DT. wrote:
zan wrote:
DT. wrote:Especially if there is an agreement for the repatriation of a large number of them.



Which side?????


Please be more specific. Are you talking about EU citizens on our side? The Pontians in Paphos? The Sri Lankan housekeepers?

How about you being more specific for a change :wink: As for EU citizens.......All Cypriots are.........Now you separate which ones you are referring to, as if I didn't know, and we can start to nitpick. Nikitas has already taken you out of the equation and secured me a payoff!!! 8) :lol: :lol:


First to jump at the idea for cash in exchange for your country eh Zan?
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Postby observer » Wed Feb 27, 2008 11:46 am

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Nikitas wrote:Let's figire out important things first, like whether expat Cypriots, who were born in Cyprus, will be able to vote in a referendum.

Considering that the referendum is radically different from a regular election ALL Cypriots should be able to vote. To limit argument about who is and who is not a Cypriot the qualifier will be Cyprus as place of birth.

Colonisation being a crime under international law, settlers SHOULD NOT VOTE. Settlers who married Cypriots become Cypriot and can stay and vote. All others get compensation and go back to their motherland. And I mean ALL, on ALL sides. There are plenty of Cypriots who were forced by circumstances to leave Cyprus and they ought to be encouraged to return.

Giving settlers rights over the Expat Cypriots undermines any agreement. Settling the Cyprus problem is not just a question of dong things for the Cypriots who are now in Cyprus. A solution provides for ALL Cypriots everywhere. The fundamental principle should be CYPRIOTS FIRST.

If this principle is not acceptable then compensate us expats for the loss of our patrimony and go to hell with your settlers.


Thats me out then...I was born in Enfield cause my parents were over there for a 3 month project my dad was doing. :roll:


:o Surely you were a 9 month project!
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Re: In case of a solution, will settlers vote in a referendu

Postby zan » Wed Feb 27, 2008 11:50 am

DT. wrote:
zan wrote:
DT. wrote:
zan wrote:
DT. wrote:Especially if there is an agreement for the repatriation of a large number of them.



Which side?????


Please be more specific. Are you talking about EU citizens on our side? The Pontians in Paphos? The Sri Lankan housekeepers?

How about you being more specific for a change :wink: As for EU citizens.......All Cypriots are.........Now you separate which ones you are referring to, as if I didn't know, and we can start to nitpick. Nikitas has already taken you out of the equation and secured me a payoff!!! 8) :lol: :lol:


First to jump at the idea for cash in exchange for your country eh Zan?


Just because you lost out!! Sour Grapes mate... :lol: :lol: :lol:

Just in case people are getting a bit to confused about my intentions...I have offered what amounts to hundreds of thousands of pounds worth of land for my country mate so stop the slurs or I will sue!!! :roll: :arrow: :lol:
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Postby Nikitas » Wed Feb 27, 2008 11:55 am

Zan is a good case illustrating who should vote. He was born in Cyprus, and is also a landowner. I do not own land in my own name in Cyprus (I am holding two pieces in trust for other relatives). Neither one of us lives in Cyprus.

It would be ironic to exclude people like us from a referendum vote but allow Pontians and Anatolians to vote simply because they live there. And what is more insulting is that these people get all kinds of incentives to come and live in Cyprus and no one ever gives a stuff about expat Cypriots.

If you do not want us expats then pay us off and officially deprive us of our Cypriot nationality. I am sick of this hypoctirical concern for non Cypriots in something as crucial as a referendum.
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Postby DT. » Wed Feb 27, 2008 11:58 am

Nikitas wrote:Zan is a good case illustrating who should vote. He was born in Cyprus, and is also a landowner. I do not own land in my own name in Cyprus (I am holding two pieces in trust for other relatives). Neither one of us lives in Cyprus.

It would be ironic to exclude people like us from a referendum vote but allow Pontians and Anatolians to vote simply because they live there. And what is more insulting is that these people get all kinds of incentives to come and live in Cyprus and no one ever gives a stuff about expat Cypriots.

If you do not want us expats then pay us off and officially deprive us of our Cypriot nationality. I am sick of this hypoctirical concern for non Cypriots in something as crucial as a referendum.


who attacked the expats? I am a Cypriot and a landowner (both occupied and free) I'll be damned if I let an Anatolian farmer from Trabzon vote for the future of Cyprus.
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Postby michalis5354 » Wed Feb 27, 2008 12:17 pm

I think on the above issue there are two lists on who is a settler , our side list and their side list. As far as I know the TC side does not recognise our list and they believe their list should be taken into acount to determine who is a settler and who is not. This remains to be resolved.
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Postby BC Numismatics » Wed Feb 27, 2008 12:31 pm

I reckon that Cypriots who are living in other parts of the British Commonwealth should be entitled to vote.If you were born outside Cyprus,but you are either a Cypriot citizen or a dual citizen of Cyprus & another British Commonwealth member state,then you should be entitled to vote in either an election or a referendum.

What do you think?

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Re: In case of a solution, will settlers vote in a referendu

Postby RAFAELLA » Wed Feb 27, 2008 12:34 pm

zan wrote:How about you being more specific for a change :wink: As for EU citizens.......All Cypriots are.........Now you separate which ones you are referring to, as if I didn't know, and we can start to nitpick. Nikitas has already taken you out of the equation and secured me a payoff!!! 8) :lol: :lol:

Those who are EU citizens are the ones who are CyR nationals, those who are CyR Id card holders, CyR passports holders etc.
The settlers who were baptized Tcs are not Cypriots or EU citizens.

DT. wrote:who attacked the expats? I am a Cypriot and a landowner (both occupied and free) I'll be damned if I let an Anatolian farmer from Trabzon vote for the future of Cyprus.


That's what happened at the referendum though. Settlers had a say and this was unacceptable. Settlers shouldn't be here at first place. I don't see why an anatolian farmer, who was shiped to Cy, reject a plan that would legalize the occupation of Gc property he was given, legalise his presence in Cy etc.

Only the Tcs should have a say in case of a future referendum. This is something that our politician should have asked and should ask in the future.
Only Cypriots must be allowed to vote for a future solution.
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Postby BC Numismatics » Wed Feb 27, 2008 12:38 pm

Rafaella,would that include the British expatriate community who are living legally in Cyprus as well? Anatolian Turks such as Eric Dayi & 'Big Al' don't deserve to have any voting rights in Cyprus at all.

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