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[Sotos]

There are some people who think they are animal lovers but what they are is HYPOCRITES. I have rescued many little cats from the streets that were so little I had to feed them from special bottle with special formula and I even had to help them to shit! If I find a cockroach or some fly in my house I don't kill it. I take outside. But I EAT MEAT every day. If I called myself Animal Lover because I don't do the killing myself I would be a HYPOCRITE! I was watching the other day on Discovery channel on the program "How is Made" about how chickens are made. You could have seen 1000s of little chicks that just hatched passing from conveyor belts and pushed right and left into packages and then they would be sent to some farm and would be all slaughtered within 37 days or somehting like that. Because you don't do the slaughtering yourself doesn't make you innocent. Because you eat some animals and you don't eat others it doesn't make you innocent. Thats just a culture thing. In another country they could love cows and eat dogs. SAME THING! So if you are not a Vegetarian then don't accuse others because that makes a HYPOCRITE!!

[bigdog]

I installed a ventilation system in a huge chicken processing factory a couple of years ago and have to say it was disgusting . Only put me off chicken while i was working there though .

[Oracle]

Sotos is making a valid point here.

I feel embarrassed by those self-righteous "vegetarians" who wear this label with some pride as though it absolves them from all worldly sins.

I myself tend to say I do not eat Mammals ... but that does not mean I would then intentionally harm a bird or a fish.

In the same way those that choose to eat "meat" would not intentionally harm a lamb or a goat etc.

[Sotos]

I installed a ventilation system in a huge chicken processing factory a couple of years ago and have to say it was disgusting . Only put me off chicken while i was working there though .

Yes. Thats what I say. Just because we don't see it and we pay somebody else to do the dirty job it doesn't make us any better. Hats off to the vegetarians but if somebody who eats meat gives lectures about how much he loves animals then I call him hypocrite! In all societies animals are just used, abused and eaten. So nobody is in position to give lectures to others about this!

[miltiades]

Sotos is making a valid point here.

I feel embarrassed by those self-righteous "vegetarians" who wear this label with some pride as though it absolves them from all worldly sins.

I myself tend to say I do not eat Mammals ... but that does not mean I would then intentionally harm a bird or a fish.

In the same way those that choose to eat "meat" would not intentionally harm a lamb or a goat etc.

My own experience of people who do not eat meat , bearing in mind that man by nature is carnivorous , is that they are exceedingly boring , almost as much as those who are by choice celibate or teetotallers !!
I eat meat , I take alchohol , in mderation of course and I'm by choice virginal !!!!

[Sotos]

And purdey some time ago told us that his favorite past time is hunting and fishing http://www.cyprus-forum.com/viewtopic.php?t=16059 When he ENJOYS killing that bird or rabbit or other animals it is all good for purdey and he is such an animal lover and can lecture others

[Oracle]

Sotos is making a valid point here.

I feel embarrassed by those self-righteous "vegetarians" who wear this label with some pride as though it absolves them from all worldly sins.

I myself tend to say I do not eat Mammals ... but that does not mean I would then intentionally harm a bird or a fish.

In the same way those that choose to eat "meat" would not intentionally harm a lamb or a goat etc.

My own experience of people who do not eat meat , bearing in mind that man by nature is carnivorous , is that they are exceedingly boring , almost as much as those who are by choice celibate or teetotallers !!
I eat meat , I take alchohol , in mderation of course and I'm by choice virginal !!!!

Miltiades ... man by nature is not carnivorous, he does not have the teeth nor the intestines of a carnivore.

[cyprusgrump]

IMHO it is not hypocritical to condemn animal cruelty while still choosing to eat meat.

While I would not personally like to see the food that I eat slaughtered, one hopes that the process is carried out with the least possible pain and stress to the animal. I am reminded that people on farms that care for and raise their own animals still slaughter and eat them.

There is a big difference between slaughtering an animal for food and being deliberately cruel to an animal – be it abandoning it on a motorway, putting down poison, kicking or beating it.

[webbo]

There are some people who think they are animal lovers but what they are is HYPOCRITES. I have rescued many little cats from the streets that were so little I had to feed them from special bottle with special formula and I even had to help them to shit! If I find a cockroach or some fly in my house I don't kill it. I take outside. But I EAT MEAT every day. If I called myself Animal Lover because I don't do the killing myself I would be a HYPOCRITE! I was watching the other day on Discovery channel on the program "How is Made" about how chickens are made. You could have seen 1000s of little chicks that just hatched passing from conveyor belts and pushed right and left into packages and then they would be sent to some farm and would be all slaughtered within 37 days or somehting like that. Because you don't do the slaughtering yourself doesn't make you innocent. Because you eat some animals and you don't eat others it doesn't make you innocent. Thats just a culture thing. In another country they could love cows and eat dogs. SAME THING! So if you are not a Vegetarian then don't accuse others because that makes a HYPOCRITE!!

Meat eater and happy!

If we knew how half the things we ate were grown, processed, packaged etc we would all soon be very hungry!

I would hope that the animals that are slaughtered are done so in a humane manner.

Bubbles x

[Oracle]

IMHO it is not hypocritical to condemn animal cruelty while still choosing to eat meat.

While I would not personally like to see the food that I eat slaughtered, one hopes that the process is carried out with the least possible pain and stress to the animal. I am reminded that people on farms that care for and raise their own animals still slaughter and eat them.

There is a big difference between slaughtering an animal for food and being deliberately cruel to an animal – be it abandoning it on a motorway, putting down poison, kicking or beating it.

A well proposed argument for the meat-eating camp

Humans are able to digest meat (albeit slowly) so consumption in moderation is acceptable ... when the deliberate killing is justified on moral grounds.

I choose not to eat any Mammals (and most other non-plant living species too) because what I know about their physiology makes me shudder .... almost akin to being a cannibal. They feel pain in exactly the same way as us ... so it is a no-go ( ) area for me.


However ... I am a glutton for carbohydrates ... so I sin in a big way and would not hypocritically condemn another man's wrong over mine.