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Postby cyprusgrump » Tue Feb 26, 2008 6:48 pm

pantheman wrote:
cyprusgrump wrote:
pantheman wrote:
hellopaul wrote:And then....? A strange post. The reply to your question "Is animal cruelty in Cyprus the norm" is obviously "yes". This is patently clear to anyone who has lived in Cyprus or even just visited for a few days or more. Cypriots are famed for their hatred of all animals. Animals are there to be starved, shot or beaten. They serve no other purpose in Cyprus.


Oh please get off your high horse. I have given up counting how many programs I have seen showing the RSPC and the US equvilent on trails of animal cruelty in those respective countries.

Horse beaten and left to starve in the UK, dogs boxed all day with no food in the US. You have just seen fit to jump on this puppy band wagon and start critisizing Cyprus.

If you just take a simple item of comparison, the amount of money GDP that the US and UK create is gigantic compared to what cyprus generates. Those bigger countris can afford the expenditure on animal welfare, but even then it falls way short considering the amount of money we are talking about.

Cyprus, as much as it would like, does not have the same financial power and if it is faced with money for social benefits or money for animal welfare then I can guess where they will be directing it. Given the enormous developments that have taken place in cyprus, infrastructure wise in the last 5 - 10 years you can see where most of that money goes to.

Critism is accepted in some cases but to demonise the whole country as being ALL non animal lavoers is taking the biscuit to day the least.

Lets just get things into perspective here. Otherwise this thread and similar will turn out like the Cyprob thread.

A slight digression here,

Niki, a question for you. Do you know that the person dumping the puppies in the first place was actually a Cypriot? Could he have been a Brit, a Yank, a pole, a Russian? Why you suddenly asumed he was Cypriot? I think it just shows the racial tendencies here a bit !!!!

Its like when a black man gets arrested he says "just because I am black?" Well, you have just done the same, unless you know for sure what he was?

Just an observation.

Oh come on! :?

Our local vet is Cypriot - he knows who dumps the dogs around here!

Clue: It is not Brits, Yanks, Poles or Russians :wink:


Yes Grump you would say that, wouldn't you?

Do you know who dumped the puppies was the question? Anything else is just empty accusations.

Oh and "Our local vet is Cypriot " well then, he must be a cruel basterd as well since he is Cypriot right??

I didn’t say that all Cypriots are cruel bastards.

However, if you look at the dogs which are ‘kennelled’ in tin sheds under the sun in distant fields with little food or drink then they’re not owned by British, Yanks, or Russians. Unfortunately, those same dogs are also not required (apparently) to be licensed or chipped.

And there is plenty of evidence as to who is dumping the dogs – not British Yanks or Russians.

As I said, I’m not anti Cypriot, nor do I think that all Cypriots are cruel bastards (the puppy that I managed to re-home the other week belonged to a Cypriot). However, Cypriots do seem to learn from an early age that being cruel to animals is de rigueur. We’ve all seen it – I can’t believe that you haven’t…
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Postby pantheman » Tue Feb 26, 2008 6:54 pm

cyprusgrump wrote:
pantheman wrote:
cyprusgrump wrote:
pantheman wrote:
hellopaul wrote:And then....? A strange post. The reply to your question "Is animal cruelty in Cyprus the norm" is obviously "yes". This is patently clear to anyone who has lived in Cyprus or even just visited for a few days or more. Cypriots are famed for their hatred of all animals. Animals are there to be starved, shot or beaten. They serve no other purpose in Cyprus.


Oh please get off your high horse. I have given up counting how many programs I have seen showing the RSPC and the US equvilent on trails of animal cruelty in those respective countries.

Horse beaten and left to starve in the UK, dogs boxed all day with no food in the US. You have just seen fit to jump on this puppy band wagon and start critisizing Cyprus.

If you just take a simple item of comparison, the amount of money GDP that the US and UK create is gigantic compared to what cyprus generates. Those bigger countris can afford the expenditure on animal welfare, but even then it falls way short considering the amount of money we are talking about.

Cyprus, as much as it would like, does not have the same financial power and if it is faced with money for social benefits or money for animal welfare then I can guess where they will be directing it. Given the enormous developments that have taken place in cyprus, infrastructure wise in the last 5 - 10 years you can see where most of that money goes to.

Critism is accepted in some cases but to demonise the whole country as being ALL non animal lavoers is taking the biscuit to day the least.

Lets just get things into perspective here. Otherwise this thread and similar will turn out like the Cyprob thread.

A slight digression here,

Niki, a question for you. Do you know that the person dumping the puppies in the first place was actually a Cypriot? Could he have been a Brit, a Yank, a pole, a Russian? Why you suddenly asumed he was Cypriot? I think it just shows the racial tendencies here a bit !!!!

Its like when a black man gets arrested he says "just because I am black?" Well, you have just done the same, unless you know for sure what he was?

Just an observation.

Oh come on! :?

Our local vet is Cypriot - he knows who dumps the dogs around here!

Clue: It is not Brits, Yanks, Poles or Russians :wink:


Yes Grump you would say that, wouldn't you?

Do you know who dumped the puppies was the question? Anything else is just empty accusations.

Oh and "Our local vet is Cypriot " well then, he must be a cruel basterd as well since he is Cypriot right??

I didn’t say that all Cypriots are cruel bastards.

However, if you look at the dogs which are ‘kennelled’ in tin sheds under the sun in distant fields with little food or drink then they’re not owned by British, Yanks, or Russians. Unfortunately, those same dogs are also not required (apparently) to be licensed or chipped.

And there is plenty of evidence as to who is dumping the dogs – not British Yanks or Russians.

As I said, I’m not anti Cypriot, nor do I think that all Cypriots are cruel bastards (the puppy that I managed to re-home the other week belonged to a Cypriot). However, Cypriots do seem to learn from an early age that being cruel to animals is de rigueur. We’ve all seen it – I can’t believe that you haven’t…


What ever, what ever.
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Postby cyprusgrump » Tue Feb 26, 2008 7:04 pm

pantheman wrote:
cyprusgrump wrote:
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pantheman wrote:
hellopaul wrote:And then....? A strange post. The reply to your question "Is animal cruelty in Cyprus the norm" is obviously "yes". This is patently clear to anyone who has lived in Cyprus or even just visited for a few days or more. Cypriots are famed for their hatred of all animals. Animals are there to be starved, shot or beaten. They serve no other purpose in Cyprus.


Oh please get off your high horse. I have given up counting how many programs I have seen showing the RSPC and the US equvilent on trails of animal cruelty in those respective countries.

Horse beaten and left to starve in the UK, dogs boxed all day with no food in the US. You have just seen fit to jump on this puppy band wagon and start critisizing Cyprus.

If you just take a simple item of comparison, the amount of money GDP that the US and UK create is gigantic compared to what cyprus generates. Those bigger countris can afford the expenditure on animal welfare, but even then it falls way short considering the amount of money we are talking about.

Cyprus, as much as it would like, does not have the same financial power and if it is faced with money for social benefits or money for animal welfare then I can guess where they will be directing it. Given the enormous developments that have taken place in cyprus, infrastructure wise in the last 5 - 10 years you can see where most of that money goes to.

Critism is accepted in some cases but to demonise the whole country as being ALL non animal lavoers is taking the biscuit to day the least.

Lets just get things into perspective here. Otherwise this thread and similar will turn out like the Cyprob thread.

A slight digression here,

Niki, a question for you. Do you know that the person dumping the puppies in the first place was actually a Cypriot? Could he have been a Brit, a Yank, a pole, a Russian? Why you suddenly asumed he was Cypriot? I think it just shows the racial tendencies here a bit !!!!

Its like when a black man gets arrested he says "just because I am black?" Well, you have just done the same, unless you know for sure what he was?

Just an observation.

Oh come on! :?

Our local vet is Cypriot - he knows who dumps the dogs around here!

Clue: It is not Brits, Yanks, Poles or Russians :wink:


Yes Grump you would say that, wouldn't you?

Do you know who dumped the puppies was the question? Anything else is just empty accusations.

Oh and "Our local vet is Cypriot " well then, he must be a cruel basterd as well since he is Cypriot right??

I didn’t say that all Cypriots are cruel bastards.

However, if you look at the dogs which are ‘kennelled’ in tin sheds under the sun in distant fields with little food or drink then they’re not owned by British, Yanks, or Russians. Unfortunately, those same dogs are also not required (apparently) to be licensed or chipped.

And there is plenty of evidence as to who is dumping the dogs – not British Yanks or Russians.

As I said, I’m not anti Cypriot, nor do I think that all Cypriots are cruel bastards (the puppy that I managed to re-home the other week belonged to a Cypriot). However, Cypriots do seem to learn from an early age that being cruel to animals is de rigueur. We’ve all seen it – I can’t believe that you haven’t…


What ever, what ever.

Ah, the old "what ever, what ever" argument! :lol:

A good point well made! :wink:
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Re: Is animal cruelty in Cyprus the norm.

Postby paliometoxo » Tue Feb 26, 2008 7:11 pm

purdey wrote:The British are great animal lovers and on the whole look after their animals.In Cyprus there seems to be an initial love of animals and then.....


not every siingle person in england is an animal lover.. ive seen many dogs dumped on the side of roads from owners in uk....

there are many animal lovers in cy, dont know where ur getting this idea that everyone in cy hates animals... :)

i know many people who have animals and for a long time, even some with as many as 6 pets, snakes dogs cats all of them treated very well
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Postby Niki » Tue Feb 26, 2008 7:22 pm

pantheman wrote:Niki, a question for you. Do you know that the person dumping the puppies in the first place was actually a Cypriot? Could he have been a Brit, a Yank, a pole, a Russian? Why you suddenly asumed he was Cypriot? I think it just shows the racial tendencies here a bit !!!!

Its like when a black man gets arrested he says "just because I am black?" Well, you have just done the same, unless you know for sure what he was?

Just an observation.


Niki wrote:What is it with some people here?

A motorbike stopped 100m up the road and threw a box of 7 puppies on to the road......and then drove away leaving them to get run over!!

My children happened to be in the garden and heard this and then the whining from the puppies who were running all over the road. We gathered them up and fed them, you couldn't just leave them!

After a lot of calling different people I found a wonderful lady who could take them on (they were very young and needed specific care and as we are in a rented house couldn't have them). Why couldn't these people who threw them on to the road call to find alternative care???

Disgusting.


No mention of them being Cypriot!

The offenders do live HERE however and chances are having experienced the way, as described, animals are treated they are probably Cypriot!

It's odd but I called maybe 10 animal shelters that night and all were British run, not Cypriot - funny that!!
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Postby GorillaGal » Tue Feb 26, 2008 7:22 pm

pantheman wrote:
hellopaul wrote:And then....? A strange post. The reply to your question "Is animal cruelty in Cyprus the norm" is obviously "yes". This is patently clear to anyone who has lived in Cyprus or even just visited for a few days or more. Cypriots are famed for their hatred of all animals. Animals are there to be starved, shot or beaten. They serve no other purpose in Cyprus.


Oh please get off your high horse. I have given up counting how many programs I have seen showing the RSPC and the US equvilent on trails of animal cruelty in those respective countries.

Horse beaten and left to starve in the UK, dogs boxed all day with no food in the US. You have just seen fit to jump on this puppy band wagon and start critisizing Cyprus.

If you just take a simple item of comparison, the amount of money GDP that the US and UK create is gigantic compared to what cyprus generates. Those bigger countris can afford the expenditure on animal welfare, but even then it falls way short considering the amount of money we are talking about.

Cyprus, as much as it would like, does not have the same financial power and if it is faced with money for social benefits or money for animal welfare then I can guess where they will be directing it. Given the enormous developments that have taken place in cyprus, infrastructure wise in the last 5 - 10 years you can see where most of that money goes to.

Critism is accepted in some cases but to demonise the whole country as being ALL non animal lavoers is taking the biscuit to day the least.

Lets just get things into perspective here. Otherwise this thread and similar will turn out like the Cyprob thread.

A slight digression here,

Niki, a question for you. Do you know that the person dumping the puppies in the first place was actually a Cypriot? Could he have been a Brit, a Yank, a pole, a Russian? Why you suddenly asumed he was Cypriot? I think it just shows the racial tendencies here a bit !!!!

Its like when a black man gets arrested he says "just because I am black?" Well, you have just done the same, unless you know for sure what he was?

Just an observation.

the difference is that in the USA and the UK, these crimes are prosecuted. it seems to me that in CY, the people are afraid to report them, and when or if they do, they are ridiculed, and nothing is done.

the people i met in CY that were involved with the shelter i visited, and all the people working there were expats. why not a cypriot among them?

in all fairness, i did meet one cypriot that had a love of pets, and treated them well.
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Postby Oracle » Tue Feb 26, 2008 7:34 pm

Niki seems to be having an awful lot of negative experiences here in Cyprus ... :roll:

Parking tickets, animal abuses, developer problems ... etc..

Maybe trouble just follows some people around ...

Good karma ... bad karma ... what goes around .. comes around....

I'll be persona non grata next I guess .... :shock:
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Postby Niki » Tue Feb 26, 2008 7:38 pm

Oracle wrote:Niki seems to be having an awful lot of negative experiences here in Cyprus ... :roll:

Parking tickets, animal abuses, developer problems ... etc..

Maybe trouble just follows some people around ...

Good karma ... bad karma ... what goes around .. comes around....

I'll be persona non grata next I guess .... :shock:


Oracix, you know me better than that!! 8)

Or are you trying to stoke things up?
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Postby Cheshire Cat » Tue Feb 26, 2008 7:38 pm

Cyprus is an Island of disposables, Animals are just seen as one of the many things which can be used and disposed of, after all you can always get another.
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Postby Oracle » Tue Feb 26, 2008 7:44 pm

Niki wrote:
Oracle wrote:Niki seems to be having an awful lot of negative experiences here in Cyprus ... :roll:

Parking tickets, animal abuses, developer problems ... etc..

Maybe trouble just follows some people around ...

Good karma ... bad karma ... what goes around .. comes around....

I'll be persona non grata next I guess .... :shock:


Oracix, you know me better than that!! 8)

Or are you trying to stoke things up?


Hello Niki dear ....

Just trying to trip you up for a brief exchange ... 8)

How are you doing? ... be positive now! :D
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