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Postby DT. » Wed Feb 27, 2008 5:03 pm

nothing i can do about it....there was no one else on when i logged on. 8)
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Postby denizaksulu » Wed Feb 27, 2008 5:05 pm

DT. wrote:nothing i can do about it....there was no one else on when i logged on. 8)



You could talk(post) to yourself. OrPh does it all the time. :lol:
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Postby zan » Wed Feb 27, 2008 5:05 pm

DT. wrote:nothing i can do about it....there was no one else on when i logged on. 8)


Next time go look for some porn or something :lol: :lol:
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Postby Kikapu » Thu Feb 28, 2008 6:41 pm

zan wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:BBF is on offer take it or leave it....the choice is yours.


As a True Federation, I'll take it.

As a disguised Partition, NO THANKS.

Here is something for all to think about.

Had the 2004 AP passed by all Cypriots, the North would have been considered a Turkish Territory and in essence can do whatever they wished to do with it, continue being part of the "United Cyprus" or just say, the hell with it, we want to be Independent. I can guarantee you, had that been the case, the North would have declared Independence the same week as Kosovo and all those who are willing to recognise Kosovo would have had no choice but recognise the North also.

Guess what, with VP's kind of BBF, the same situation will exist again in the near future, if it's adapted. What's to stop it.???

I'm not revealing any secrets here. If I can read the "tea leaves" so can everyone else. That's why the BBF has been dubbed as a "disguised Partition". So what's the advantage for the GC's to say yes on VP's BBF. Perhaps VP can give us all the advantages to the GC's of his kind of BBF over a clean partition or staying as we are now.



Can you tell us which part of the Annan Plan allowed the TCs to do that....Give us the specific part please
???? :roll:


Zan, when you play bumb, stupid and ignorant, it really doesn't go too well with you, but if you keep it up, then I will have no choice but to accept you as a dumb, stupid and ignorant.

What do you think the "Virgin Birth" concept was and is all about and a two seperate states with their own laws that are not covered under the Federal Laws and even if they were, SO WHAT. Once the North legally enters into the hands of the TC's, whether there are GC's living there or not, will eventually want to break away by declaring Independence citing
"irreconcilable differences", just like most couples use for reasons for divorce these days. If not, few bombs here and there will do the trick, as it was done before. The whole purpose of the BBF is to keeps options open for a complete Partition once the North is in the EU officially. If that is not the case, why do you refuse True Federation and True Democracy.?? Because you know damn well, that you will not be able to declare Independence with the land TC's do not outright own, the North , but with the "Virgin Birth", that is a different story. Talat still talking about a "Virgin Birth" for GOD sake. We can have a "Virgin Birth" as a country, but do not count on the GC's to agree on a "Virgin Birth" to the TC's the Northern part of Cyprus anytime soon in a BBF.
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Postby zan » Thu Feb 28, 2008 8:44 pm

Kikapu wrote:
zan wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:BBF is on offer take it or leave it....the choice is yours.


As a True Federation, I'll take it.

As a disguised Partition, NO THANKS.

Here is something for all to think about.

Had the 2004 AP passed by all Cypriots, the North would have been considered a Turkish Territory and in essence can do whatever they wished to do with it, continue being part of the "United Cyprus" or just say, the hell with it, we want to be Independent. I can guarantee you, had that been the case, the North would have declared Independence the same week as Kosovo and all those who are willing to recognise Kosovo would have had no choice but recognise the North also.

Guess what, with VP's kind of BBF, the same situation will exist again in the near future, if it's adapted. What's to stop it.???

I'm not revealing any secrets here. If I can read the "tea leaves" so can everyone else. That's why the BBF has been dubbed as a "disguised Partition". So what's the advantage for the GC's to say yes on VP's BBF. Perhaps VP can give us all the advantages to the GC's of his kind of BBF over a clean partition or staying as we are now.



Can you tell us which part of the Annan Plan allowed the TCs to do that....Give us the specific part please
???? :roll:


Zan, when you play bumb, stupid and ignorant, it really doesn't go too well with you, but if you keep it up, then I will have no choice but to accept you as a dumb, stupid and ignorant.

What do you think the "Virgin Birth" concept was and is all about and a two seperate states with their own laws that are not covered under the Federal Laws and even if they were, SO WHAT. Once the North legally enters into the hands of the TC's, whether there are GC's living there or not, will eventually want to break away by declaring Independence citing
"irreconcilable differences", just like most couples use for reasons for divorce these days. If not, few bombs here and there will do the trick, as it was done before. The whole purpose of the BBF is to keeps options open for a complete Partition once the North is in the EU officially. If that is not the case, why do you refuse True Federation and True Democracy.?? Because you know damn well, that you will not be able to declare Independence with the land TC's do not outright own, the North , but with the "Virgin Birth", that is a different story. Talat still talking about a "Virgin Birth" for GOD sake. We can have a "Virgin Birth" as a country, but do not count on the GC's to agree on a "Virgin Birth" to the TC's the Northern part of Cyprus anytime soon in a BBF.


Nope...Read this a few times and still can't find the answer I need.....Just your obsession on sound-bites that you think make you look as if you know what you are talking about....Haram...Virgin birth....Here is a new one for you......

Allah Belani versin....
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Postby denizaksulu » Thu Feb 28, 2008 8:50 pm

zan wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
zan wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:BBF is on offer take it or leave it....the choice is yours.


As a True Federation, I'll take it.

As a disguised Partition, NO THANKS.

Here is something for all to think about.

Had the 2004 AP passed by all Cypriots, the North would have been considered a Turkish Territory and in essence can do whatever they wished to do with it, continue being part of the "United Cyprus" or just say, the hell with it, we want to be Independent. I can guarantee you, had that been the case, the North would have declared Independence the same week as Kosovo and all those who are willing to recognise Kosovo would have had no choice but recognise the North also.

Guess what, with VP's kind of BBF, the same situation will exist again in the near future, if it's adapted. What's to stop it.???

I'm not revealing any secrets here. If I can read the "tea leaves" so can everyone else. That's why the BBF has been dubbed as a "disguised Partition". So what's the advantage for the GC's to say yes on VP's BBF. Perhaps VP can give us all the advantages to the GC's of his kind of BBF over a clean partition or staying as we are now.



Can you tell us which part of the Annan Plan allowed the TCs to do that....Give us the specific part please
???? :roll:


Zan, when you play bumb, stupid and ignorant, it really doesn't go too well with you, but if you keep it up, then I will have no choice but to accept you as a dumb, stupid and ignorant.

What do you think the "Virgin Birth" concept was and is all about and a two seperate states with their own laws that are not covered under the Federal Laws and even if they were, SO WHAT. Once the North legally enters into the hands of the TC's, whether there are GC's living there or not, will eventually want to break away by declaring Independence citing
"irreconcilable differences", just like most couples use for reasons for divorce these days. If not, few bombs here and there will do the trick, as it was done before. The whole purpose of the BBF is to keeps options open for a complete Partition once the North is in the EU officially. If that is not the case, why do you refuse True Federation and True Democracy.?? Because you know damn well, that you will not be able to declare Independence with the land TC's do not outright own, the North , but with the "Virgin Birth", that is a different story. Talat still talking about a "Virgin Birth" for GOD sake. We can have a "Virgin Birth" as a country, but do not count on the GC's to agree on a "Virgin Birth" to the TC's the Northern part of Cyprus anytime soon in a BBF.


Nope...Read this a few times and still can't find the answer I need.....Just your obsession on sound-bites that you think make you look as if you know what you are talking about....Haram...Virgin birth....Here is a new one for you......

Allah Belani versin....



Nice song, but I thought Kiks did not speak Turkish. Since when have you began 'dinleyici istekleri'? :lol:
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Postby zan » Thu Feb 28, 2008 8:53 pm

He has a real Turkish translater :wink: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby denizaksulu » Thu Feb 28, 2008 8:57 pm

zan wrote:He has a real Turkish translater :wink: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:



Oh, I see. Is he cheap? :wink:
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Postby zan » Thu Feb 28, 2008 8:58 pm

denizaksulu wrote:
zan wrote:He has a real Turkish translater :wink: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:



Oh, I see. Is he cheap? :wink:


Kikapu is but the Turkish speaker doesn't mind :wink: :lol: :lol:
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Postby Expatkiwi » Fri Feb 29, 2008 2:26 am

Would this framework of ideas be accepted by both Presidents at this time? That is the question. In regards to Mr. Denktash, he told me that when the UDI of November 1983 took place, the dynamic had changed. In his eyes, a new nation was born and he had a duty to ensure its survival, thus anything that would have terminated the independence of the TRNC was something to be avoided. You can call him whatever you like, but until he retired, he stayed true to his principles. The word for that, I believe, is integrity.
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