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Postby BirKibrisli » Fri Feb 29, 2008 10:05 am

DT. wrote:
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Viewpoint wrote:We dissolve the TRNC and "RoC" and build a new United Cyprus Republic.


Thanks,VP...

And who is responsible for coining this analogy????
:)

But wouldn't the new United Cyprus Republic have a known father?????
I can think of at least 3 possible father figures!!! :lol:


Virgin birth Bir, not Bastard birth. More of a Jesus than a Denktash. :lol:


So there is a difference between Virgin Birth and Bastard Birth????
:wink:
But wasn't that a miracle??? :D
Oh,it is all starting to make sense... :lol:
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Postby DT. » Fri Feb 29, 2008 10:07 am

BirKibrisli wrote:
DT. wrote:
BirKibrisli wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:We dissolve the TRNC and "RoC" and build a new United Cyprus Republic.


Thanks,VP...

And who is responsible for coining this analogy????
:)

But wouldn't the new United Cyprus Republic have a known father?????
I can think of at least 3 possible father figures!!! :lol:


Virgin birth Bir, not Bastard birth. More of a Jesus than a Denktash. :lol:


So there is a difference between Virgin Birth and Bastard Birth????
:wink:
But wasn't that a miracle??? :D
Oh,it is all starting to make sense... :lol:


there you go.... :wink: Look out for the 3 wise men bearing gifts.
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Postby BirKibrisli » Fri Feb 29, 2008 10:11 am

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BirKibrisli wrote:I am sorry people but i don't have the time/I am too lazy (take your pick :wink: )
to go back and look for the definition of "virgin birth" as it applies to Cyprob...You must've talked about it in some other thread,but I have missed it....Can someone explain to me (in less than 50 words) what the hell it means????? Thanks in advance.... :? :?


Hello Bir,

"Virgin birth" as it is utilized by the Turkish side as a concept based on which the Cyprus issue should be resolved, implies the following:

The solution that will emerge will not be based on the continuation of the 1960 RoC, as an established nation state. The new federal nation-state, i.e. the Federal United Republic of Cyprus (central government) will not legally be regarded or viewed as the successor or continuator of the legally existing 1960 RoC. The new state of affairs that will emerge (i.e. the federal URC,) will be the "result" of a "virgin birth" that will be conceived due to a partnership between the two de facto "existing" ethnic "nation-states," i.e. the "Greek Cypriot administration" in the south and the "TRNC" in the north! The RoC, according to the TC and Turkish thesis, doesn't exist. Instead, there is only a so-called GC administration. This "GC administration" will be promoted to become the GC Constituent State in the federal URC! Likewise, the "TRNC" will be promoted to assume the role of the TC Constituent state! The two of them will form a partnership between themselves in the middle, which will be called the URC, but which will have nothing to do with the currently existing and recognized RoC! It will be a new country that has fallen from the moon, all of suddenly, after the GCs accept that the 1974 illegal fait accomplices are acknowledged as a fact of life!

In other words, it is the opposite of what the GCs want the solution to be based on. The GC view is that the new state of affairs will be based on the concept of evolution of the 1960 RoC, from a unitary and bi-communal State into a federal bi-zonal and bi-communal State!



Thanks,Kifeas...
In other words we will need a miracle bigger than the original to make it happen... :) Well,we are still waiting for the Second Coming...We can wait for this too,forever! :roll:
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Postby denizaksulu » Fri Feb 29, 2008 10:16 am

BirKibrisli wrote:
Kifeas wrote:
BirKibrisli wrote:I am sorry people but i don't have the time/I am too lazy (take your pick :wink: )
to go back and look for the definition of "virgin birth" as it applies to Cyprob...You must've talked about it in some other thread,but I have missed it....Can someone explain to me (in less than 50 words) what the hell it means????? Thanks in advance.... :? :?


Hello Bir,

"Virgin birth" as it is utilized by the Turkish side as a concept based on which the Cyprus issue should be resolved, implies the following:

The solution that will emerge will not be based on the continuation of the 1960 RoC, as an established nation state. The new federal nation-state, i.e. the Federal United Republic of Cyprus (central government) will not legally be regarded or viewed as the successor or continuator of the legally existing 1960 RoC. The new state of affairs that will emerge (i.e. the federal URC,) will be the "result" of a "virgin birth" that will be conceived due to a partnership between the two de facto "existing" ethnic "nation-states," i.e. the "Greek Cypriot administration" in the south and the "TRNC" in the north! The RoC, according to the TC and Turkish thesis, doesn't exist. Instead, there is only a so-called GC administration. This "GC administration" will be promoted to become the GC Constituent State in the federal URC! Likewise, the "TRNC" will be promoted to assume the role of the TC Constituent state! The two of them will form a partnership between themselves in the middle, which will be called the URC, but which will have nothing to do with the currently existing and recognized RoC! It will be a new country that has fallen from the moon, all of suddenly, after the GCs accept that the 1974 illegal fait accomplices are acknowledged as a fact of life!

In other words, it is the opposite of what the GCs want the solution to be based on. The GC view is that the new state of affairs will be based on the concept of evolution of the 1960 RoC, from a unitary and bi-communal State into a federal bi-zonal and bi-communal State!



Thanks,Kifeas...
In other words we will need a miracle bigger than the original to make it happen... :) Well,we are still waiting for the Second Coming...We can wait for this too,forever! :roll:


Its the first coming isnt it yegen? :wink: So you dont believe in miracles?
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Postby BirKibrisli » Fri Feb 29, 2008 10:16 am

DT. wrote:
BirKibrisli wrote:
DT. wrote:
BirKibrisli wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:We dissolve the TRNC and "RoC" and build a new United Cyprus Republic.


Thanks,VP...

And who is responsible for coining this analogy????
:)

But wouldn't the new United Cyprus Republic have a known father?????
I can think of at least 3 possible father figures!!! :lol:


Virgin birth Bir, not Bastard birth. More of a Jesus than a Denktash. :lol:


So there is a difference between Virgin Birth and Bastard Birth????
:wink:
But wasn't that a miracle??? :D
Oh,it is all starting to make sense... :lol:


there you go.... :wink: Look out for the 3 wise men bearing gifts.


Should I also be looking for a falling star or something??? I hope I am not offending anyone's religious sensitivities here...But my ignorance of the Bible is only surpassed by my ignorance of the Koran... :oops: :oops:
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Postby Kifeas » Fri Feb 29, 2008 10:16 am

BirKibrisli wrote:
Kifeas wrote:
BirKibrisli wrote:I am sorry people but i don't have the time/I am too lazy (take your pick :wink: )
to go back and look for the definition of "virgin birth" as it applies to Cyprob...You must've talked about it in some other thread,but I have missed it....Can someone explain to me (in less than 50 words) what the hell it means????? Thanks in advance.... :? :?


Hello Bir,

"Virgin birth" as it is utilized by the Turkish side as a concept based on which the Cyprus issue should be resolved, implies the following:

The solution that will emerge will not be based on the continuation of the 1960 RoC, as an established nation state. The new federal nation-state, i.e. the Federal United Republic of Cyprus (central government) will not legally be regarded or viewed as the successor or continuator of the legally existing 1960 RoC. The new state of affairs that will emerge (i.e. the federal URC,) will be the "result" of a "virgin birth" that will be conceived due to a partnership between the two de facto "existing" ethnic "nation-states," i.e. the "Greek Cypriot administration" in the south and the "TRNC" in the north! The RoC, according to the TC and Turkish thesis, doesn't exist. Instead, there is only a so-called GC administration. This "GC administration" will be promoted to become the GC Constituent State in the federal URC! Likewise, the "TRNC" will be promoted to assume the role of the TC Constituent state! The two of them will form a partnership between themselves in the middle, which will be called the URC, but which will have nothing to do with the currently existing and recognized RoC! It will be a new country that has fallen from the moon, all of suddenly, after the GCs accept that the 1974 illegal fait accomplices are acknowledged as a fact of life!

In other words, it is the opposite of what the GCs want the solution to be based on. The GC view is that the new state of affairs will be based on the concept of evolution of the 1960 RoC, from a unitary and bi-communal State into a federal bi-zonal and bi-communal State!



Thanks,Kifeas...
In other words we will need a miracle bigger than the original to make it happen... :) Well,we are still waiting for the Second Coming...We can wait for this too,forever! :roll:


And who said to you that all the the Turkish side wants, is to make it happen? :wink:
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Postby BirKibrisli » Fri Feb 29, 2008 10:18 am

denizaksulu wrote:
BirKibrisli wrote:
Kifeas wrote:
BirKibrisli wrote:I am sorry people but i don't have the time/I am too lazy (take your pick :wink: )
to go back and look for the definition of "virgin birth" as it applies to Cyprob...You must've talked about it in some other thread,but I have missed it....Can someone explain to me (in less than 50 words) what the hell it means????? Thanks in advance.... :? :?


Hello Bir,

"Virgin birth" as it is utilized by the Turkish side as a concept based on which the Cyprus issue should be resolved, implies the following:

The solution that will emerge will not be based on the continuation of the 1960 RoC, as an established nation state. The new federal nation-state, i.e. the Federal United Republic of Cyprus (central government) will not legally be regarded or viewed as the successor or continuator of the legally existing 1960 RoC. The new state of affairs that will emerge (i.e. the federal URC,) will be the "result" of a "virgin birth" that will be conceived due to a partnership between the two de facto "existing" ethnic "nation-states," i.e. the "Greek Cypriot administration" in the south and the "TRNC" in the north! The RoC, according to the TC and Turkish thesis, doesn't exist. Instead, there is only a so-called GC administration. This "GC administration" will be promoted to become the GC Constituent State in the federal URC! Likewise, the "TRNC" will be promoted to assume the role of the TC Constituent state! The two of them will form a partnership between themselves in the middle, which will be called the URC, but which will have nothing to do with the currently existing and recognized RoC! It will be a new country that has fallen from the moon, all of suddenly, after the GCs accept that the 1974 illegal fait accomplices are acknowledged as a fact of life!

In other words, it is the opposite of what the GCs want the solution to be based on. The GC view is that the new state of affairs will be based on the concept of evolution of the 1960 RoC, from a unitary and bi-communal State into a federal bi-zonal and bi-communal State!



Thanks,Kifeas...
In other words we will need a miracle bigger than the original to make it happen... :) Well,we are still waiting for the Second Coming...We can wait for this too,forever! :roll:


Its the first coming isnt it yegen? :wink: So you dont believe in miracles?


I will tell you next week,Deniz yegen! :lol:
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Postby BirKibrisli » Fri Feb 29, 2008 10:22 am

Kifeas wrote:
BirKibrisli wrote:
Kifeas wrote:
BirKibrisli wrote:I am sorry people but i don't have the time/I am too lazy (take your pick :wink: )
to go back and look for the definition of "virgin birth" as it applies to Cyprob...You must've talked about it in some other thread,but I have missed it....Can someone explain to me (in less than 50 words) what the hell it means????? Thanks in advance.... :? :?


Hello Bir,

"Virgin birth" as it is utilized by the Turkish side as a concept based on which the Cyprus issue should be resolved, implies the following:

The solution that will emerge will not be based on the continuation of the 1960 RoC, as an established nation state. The new federal nation-state, i.e. the Federal United Republic of Cyprus (central government) will not legally be regarded or viewed as the successor or continuator of the legally existing 1960 RoC. The new state of affairs that will emerge (i.e. the federal URC,) will be the "result" of a "virgin birth" that will be conceived due to a partnership between the two de facto "existing" ethnic "nation-states," i.e. the "Greek Cypriot administration" in the south and the "TRNC" in the north! The RoC, according to the TC and Turkish thesis, doesn't exist. Instead, there is only a so-called GC administration. This "GC administration" will be promoted to become the GC Constituent State in the federal URC! Likewise, the "TRNC" will be promoted to assume the role of the TC Constituent state! The two of them will form a partnership between themselves in the middle, which will be called the URC, but which will have nothing to do with the currently existing and recognized RoC! It will be a new country that has fallen from the moon, all of suddenly, after the GCs accept that the 1974 illegal fait accomplices are acknowledged as a fact of life!

In other words, it is the opposite of what the GCs want the solution to be based on. The GC view is that the new state of affairs will be based on the concept of evolution of the 1960 RoC, from a unitary and bi-communal State into a federal bi-zonal and bi-communal State!



Thanks,Kifeas...
In other words we will need a miracle bigger than the original to make it happen... :) Well,we are still waiting for the Second Coming...We can wait for this too,forever! :roll:


And who said to you that all the the Turkish side wants, is to make it happen? :wink:


Talat ,of course...And before him, Denktash...
Now don't tell me they don't mean it,Kifeas... :wink:
I will lose my faith in humanity... :D
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Postby zan » Fri Feb 29, 2008 10:38 am

Kifeas wrote:
BirKibrisli wrote:
Kifeas wrote:
BirKibrisli wrote:I am sorry people but i don't have the time/I am too lazy (take your pick :wink: )
to go back and look for the definition of "virgin birth" as it applies to Cyprob...You must've talked about it in some other thread,but I have missed it....Can someone explain to me (in less than 50 words) what the hell it means????? Thanks in advance.... :? :?


Hello Bir,

"Virgin birth" as it is utilized by the Turkish side as a concept based on which the Cyprus issue should be resolved, implies the following:

The solution that will emerge will not be based on the continuation of the 1960 RoC, as an established nation state. The new federal nation-state, i.e. the Federal United Republic of Cyprus (central government) will not legally be regarded or viewed as the successor or continuator of the legally existing 1960 RoC. The new state of affairs that will emerge (i.e. the federal URC,) will be the "result" of a "virgin birth" that will be conceived due to a partnership between the two de facto "existing" ethnic "nation-states," i.e. the "Greek Cypriot administration" in the south and the "TRNC" in the north! The RoC, according to the TC and Turkish thesis, doesn't exist. Instead, there is only a so-called GC administration. This "GC administration" will be promoted to become the GC Constituent State in the federal URC! Likewise, the "TRNC" will be promoted to assume the role of the TC Constituent state! The two of them will form a partnership between themselves in the middle, which will be called the URC, but which will have nothing to do with the currently existing and recognized RoC! It will be a new country that has fallen from the moon, all of suddenly, after the GCs accept that the 1974 illegal fait accomplices are acknowledged as a fact of life!

In other words, it is the opposite of what the GCs want the solution to be based on. The GC view is that the new state of affairs will be based on the concept of evolution of the 1960 RoC, from a unitary and bi-communal State into a federal bi-zonal and bi-communal State!



Thanks,Kifeas...
In other words we will need a miracle bigger than the original to make it happen... :) Well,we are still waiting for the Second Coming...We can wait for this too,forever! :roll:


And who said to you that all the the Turkish side wants, is to make it happen? :wink:



And you putting yourself in gods shoes means that more plagues will be visited on the TC people does it..... You made the entire universe in 6 days my lord....A little virgin birth should not be so difficult.....Hey! You keep trying to tell the world that you did not lay a hand on us anyway so you are part of the way there!!!! 8) :arrow:
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Postby denizaksulu » Fri Feb 29, 2008 10:51 am

BirKibrisli wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
BirKibrisli wrote:
Kifeas wrote:
BirKibrisli wrote:I am sorry people but i don't have the time/I am too lazy (take your pick :wink: )
to go back and look for the definition of "virgin birth" as it applies to Cyprob...You must've talked about it in some other thread,but I have missed it....Can someone explain to me (in less than 50 words) what the hell it means????? Thanks in advance.... :? :?


Hello Bir,

"Virgin birth" as it is utilized by the Turkish side as a concept based on which the Cyprus issue should be resolved, implies the following:

The solution that will emerge will not be based on the continuation of the 1960 RoC, as an established nation state. The new federal nation-state, i.e. the Federal United Republic of Cyprus (central government) will not legally be regarded or viewed as the successor or continuator of the legally existing 1960 RoC. The new state of affairs that will emerge (i.e. the federal URC,) will be the "result" of a "virgin birth" that will be conceived due to a partnership between the two de facto "existing" ethnic "nation-states," i.e. the "Greek Cypriot administration" in the south and the "TRNC" in the north! The RoC, according to the TC and Turkish thesis, doesn't exist. Instead, there is only a so-called GC administration. This "GC administration" will be promoted to become the GC Constituent State in the federal URC! Likewise, the "TRNC" will be promoted to assume the role of the TC Constituent state! The two of them will form a partnership between themselves in the middle, which will be called the URC, but which will have nothing to do with the currently existing and recognized RoC! It will be a new country that has fallen from the moon, all of suddenly, after the GCs accept that the 1974 illegal fait accomplices are acknowledged as a fact of life!

In other words, it is the opposite of what the GCs want the solution to be based on. The GC view is that the new state of affairs will be based on the concept of evolution of the 1960 RoC, from a unitary and bi-communal State into a federal bi-zonal and bi-communal State!



Thanks,Kifeas...
In other words we will need a miracle bigger than the original to make it happen... :) Well,we are still waiting for the Second Coming...We can wait for this too,forever! :roll:


Its the first coming isnt it yegen? :wink: So you dont believe in miracles?


I will tell you next week,Deniz yegen! :lol:



I am pleased withyour optimism that you can solve the Cyprob within a week. :lol:
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