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Postby Bananiot » Mon Feb 25, 2008 10:21 pm

Short, didn't you see the hooded men last night. A couple of them write in this forum ...
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Postby Kifeas » Mon Feb 25, 2008 10:22 pm

umit07 wrote:
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umit07 wrote:Phoenix you make me miss Denktaş. As long as we don't get want we want you can forgt about a single Turkish Soldier going anywhere. Christofias has been elected at least 20 years late. If it were back in the days of the USSR things would have gotten real interesting :twisted: .


thats a healthy basis for the start of a give and take process :lol:


DT no matter what the solution that TC's want is far from what is on the table from the GC's , this is a fact. Some things are just not up for negotiation no matter what.


Umit, can you clarify what is on the table from the GCs, and what the TCs do want?
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Postby DT. » Mon Feb 25, 2008 10:23 pm

Bananiot wrote:Short, didn't you see the hooded men last night. A couple of them write in this forum ...


I did see them, just like i saw the smashed up cars outside apoel done by those lovable pacifists, the munchkin commies.
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Postby DT. » Mon Feb 25, 2008 10:24 pm

DT. wrote:
Bananiot wrote:Short, didn't you see the hooded men last night. A couple of them write in this forum ...


I did see them, just like i saw the smashed up cars outside apoel done by those lovable pacifists, the munchkin commies.


and anyway, that orange hood is excellent, there's no way you could have seen my face.
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Postby Bananiot » Mon Feb 25, 2008 10:26 pm

But I recognised the aura, I am pretty sure you smashed the cars too, to divert attention.
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Postby Oracle » Mon Feb 25, 2008 10:27 pm

Viewpoint wrote:Why should our elected leader President Talat try to fool anyone?


Well he is already doing a great job of fooling you into calling him a President :lol:
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Postby Bananiot » Mon Feb 25, 2008 10:29 pm

On a serious note, Kasoulides misculcated big time after Tuesday. He should have kept playing the European card, no matter if he stood to lose. Stupid acts like these we have witnessed have turned AKEL into the biggest party in Cyprus. The right basically is to be blamed for AKEL's successes.
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Postby umit07 » Mon Feb 25, 2008 10:38 pm

Sorry to keep you waiting DT. Well I think you know pretty well what is for compromise. I would say the most important element is that there be a mechanism where TC's can veto, central gov. decisions in predefined fields. Eg : Changing the official Language. As an example this could be in the form as, a majority of TC MP's would have to vote "positively" for a change in the constitution.

The other important point is the "Guarantee" Power of mama Turkey jus tin case GC's get an silly ideas again. This could be in a form which it could be abolished after Turkey enters the EU.

When it comes to the number of Turkish troops, I don't think there is need for a single soldier to stay if we work it out.
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Postby Kifeas » Mon Feb 25, 2008 10:51 pm

umit07 wrote:Sorry to keep you waiting DT. Well I think you know pretty well what is for compromise. I would say the most important element is that there be a mechanism where TC's can veto, central gov. decisions in predefined fields. Eg : Changing the official Language. As an example this could be in the form as, a majority of TC MP's would have to vote "positively" for a change in the constitution.

The other important point is the "Guarantee" Power of mama Turkey jus tin case GC's get an silly ideas again. This could be in a form which it could be abolished after Turkey enters the EU.

When it comes to the number of Turkish troops, I don't think there is need for a single soldier to stay if we work it out.


Umit, what will change and the GCs will not get "silly ideas" again, after Turkey joins the EU? Why would we get "silly ideas" before Turkey's EU accession, and thus you need Turkey's "guarantee," and why we will not get these same "silly ideas" after Turkey's accession and the abolishment of her "guarantees?"

What guarantees are you willing to provide to the GCs that you will honor the agreements and will allow for example the return of the GC properties in the north, or the right of the GCs to return back to the villages from which they were expelled in 1974? What guarantees can you provide, just incase you also get "silly ideas" and do not facilitate for example the rights of the GCs in the north?
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Postby DT. » Mon Feb 25, 2008 10:54 pm

umit07 wrote:Sorry to keep you waiting DT. Well I think you know pretty well what is for compromise. I would say the most important element is that there be a mechanism where TC's can veto, central gov. decisions in predefined fields. Eg : Changing the official Language. As an example this could be in the form as, a majority of TC MP's would have to vote "positively" for a change in the constitution.

The other important point is the "Guarantee" Power of mama Turkey jus tin case GC's get an silly ideas again. This could be in a form which it could be abolished after Turkey enters the EU.

When it comes to the number of Turkish troops, I don't think there is need for a single soldier to stay if we work it out.


Umit, with all honesty can you put yourself in a gc's shoes as to what a Turkish gaurantee means?

Personally I have no issues if on some key issues that matter to the TC community a separate majority is required.
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