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[Tim Drayton]

May I use this forum to advance a provocative thought?

Now that AKEL is riding on the crest of a wave, I wonder if the time is ripe for the main left-wing Turkish Cypriot and Greek Cypriot political parties to merge.

Over the years, the left in Cyprus has struggled to resist the chauvenistic and semi-fascist ideologies that have driven a wedge between the two main communities on this island. This struggle cost many progressive Cypriots their lives in darker times. Kavazoglu and Misaulis are but two famous examples. It appears to me that the left, currently in power on both sides ofthe divide, is now in a unique position to take the initiative.

Why do those who believe in one country organise within two separate parties? Couldn't the left make a huge symbolic gesture in the direction of reunification and reconciliation by uniting under the umbrella of a single party? This would surely send out a powerful message that the Cypriot left rejects separatism and is striving to build a bridge across the divide.

What do left-wing Greek and Turkish Cypriots make of this? Is this a desirable and/or feasible goal?

[Oracle]

Is this "CTP" legally recognised? .... I don't think so

Why should a legitimate, fairly elected Democratic party / Government of the RoC merge with an unrecognised dubiously elected pseudo-party?

Re-unification of the island can only occur when the Turkish army end their occupation of Cyprus.

As a show of good-will why doesn't this "CTP" remove the Turkish troops first?

It's unlikely to do this as it's already lobbying for the continuation of "Turkey" as a guarantor power of Cyprus ... something we should be pushing to end now we have the EU.

[MR-from-NG]

Is this "CTP" legally recognised? .... I don't think so

Why should a legitimate, fairly elected Democratic party / Government of the RoC merge with an unrecognised dubiously elected pseudo-party?

Re-unification of the island can only occur when the Turkish army end their occupation of Cyprus.

As a show of good-will why doesn't this "CTP" remove the Turkish troops first?

It's unlikely to do this as it's already lobbying for the continuation of "Turkey" as a guarantor power of Cyprus ... something we should be pushing to end now we have the EU.

There will never, ever be a settlement without Turkey being a guarantor. No TC will ever trust the GCs to agree to a settlement without their involvement.

The day that happens (I pray it never will) I will never ever set foot in Cyprus again.

[Tim Drayton]

Why is the CTP illegal? Please refer to the following page of the RoC's official tourism web site, where all the political parties of the island are listed:

http://www.cyprus.com/cyprus-government ... arties.php

By the way, the CTP was founded on 27 December 1970.

[MR-from-NG]

Why is the CTP illegal? Please refer to the following page of the RoC's official tourism web site, where all the political parties of the island are listed:

http://www.cyprus.com/cyprus-government ... arties.php

By the way, the CTP was founded on 27 December 1970.

Tim,

Anything Turkish/TC is illegal to phenix/oracle. Now that you have contradicted her you will be ignored. Its her way of dealing with these issues. Bloody typical.

[Bananiot]

Of course CTP is legitimate. Some people in this forum will soon call the Turkish Cypriots "pseudo people".

Tim, it is not possible as things stand at the moment but it is a noble thought nevertheless. The reality is, solution must come first and it is up to Talat and Christofias to work on this. I feel that in the next few months the fate of Cyprus will be sealed, either with an agreed solution based on BBF or partition. Realistically, these are the only options available to us.

[Oracle]

Why is the CTP illegal? Please refer to the following page of the RoC's official tourism web site, where all the political parties of the island are listed:

http://www.cyprus.com/cyprus-government ... arties.php

By the way, the CTP was founded on 27 December 1970.

I don't care when it was founded it does not make it legally recognised.

Besides that's not an official site ... it lists Turkish Lira as one of the currencies of Cyprus...

You are trying to prove you do not know the difference between right and wrong?

[shahmaran]

And more importantly, why is it "dubiously elected" ?

Someone has to represent us, since you don't anymore, and they have been elected to do so, what is wrong with that Phoenix?

[Oracle]

And more importantly, why is it "dubiously elected" ?

Someone has to represent us, since you don't anymore, and they have been elected to do so, what is wrong with that Phoenix?

I would quite happily represent you and your people, shah ... but I have never been asked ....

[Kifeas]

May I use this forum to advance a provocative thought?

Now that AKEL is riding on the crest of a wave, I wonder if the time is ripe for the main left-wing Turkish Cypriot and Greek Cypriot political parties to merge.

Over the years, the left in Cyprus has struggled to resist the chauvenistic and semi-fascist ideologies that have driven a wedge between the two main communities on this island. This struggle cost many progressive Cypriots their lives in darker times. Kavazoglu and Misaulis are but two famous examples. It appears to me that the left, currently in power on both sides ofthe divide, is now in a unique position to take the initiative.

Why do those who believe in one country organise within two separate parties? Couldn't the left make a huge symbolic gesture in the direction of reunification and reconciliation by uniting under the umbrella of a single party? This would surely send out a powerful message that the Cypriot left rejects separatism and is striving to build a bridge across the divide.

What do left-wing Greek and Turkish Cypriots make of this? Is this a desirable and/or feasible goal?

Sorry Tim, but your idea is a bit absurd!

First of all, it is not certain that both parties believe in one country, more so in the same type of one country!

Secondly, how can a party (CTP) which doesn't recognize the RoC, its constitution and its sovereignty -other than as the "Southern Cyprus GC administration," while at the same time it recognizes an illegal and secessionist entity within the territory of the RoC as the "TRNC;" will possibly merge with another party (Akel) that accepts exactly the opposite realities?

Aside the whatever ideological similarities, there is no common political platform or framework within which to possibly merge!