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[Murataga]

No, it didn`t and there has been no war between the RoC and Turkey. A community of the Cyprus assembled an an army against the constituion of the RoC established per the Zurich Agrements. That illegal organization killed innocent TCs and fatally attempted to annex the island to Greece. The only war that took place was between the criminal gang you assembled and a NATO member Army.

You are loosing it mate. Cyprus is an independent sovereign country member of the United Nations. Just repeating your crap all day will not make them true.

And I`ll repeat it as many times as is necessary: There has never been and there is no war between the RoC and Turkey. Turkey never declared war on the RoC. The fact is that you asssembled a criminal military organization in violation of the RoC constitution and international agreements. This criminal gang attacked and killed innocent TCs. Furthermore, it launched a large scale offensive to annex the whole island to Greece. Makarios apolagized in front of the whole world for establishing and harboring this criminal institution and asked for help to bring it under control. Turkey smashed the brains out of this sorry-ass-excuse for an army in 1974 thus eliminating once and for all your dreams of ENOSIS and the threat you posed to the TC commnity. No war with the RoC at any point whatsoever.

It says "immediate end to foreign military intervention". I believe that would include Greece and all her military personel, weapons, logistics and accoomodating financial support on the island as well. Is this part covered by your end; or better yet has it ever been?

On July 20th the foreign intervention was by Turkey, so stop hiding behind your finger.

The resolution came about on July 20th - a date which Greece was on the island as a "foreign military intervention" with troops, weapons, financial and logistic support (before and after as well actually...). The resolution makes no specific reference to Turkey nor does it confine the recommendations to the day of the July 20th. Rather it says, "immediate end to foreign military intervention". That includes Greece and all her military personel, weapons, logistics and accomadating financial support on the island as well. So, once again: have you measured up to your end of this resolution - ever?

You were the COMMUNITY outnumbering us 1 to 4 with an objective of handing the island to Greece. With that, you had the initiative and you established a paramilitary organization that destroyed anything and everything that stood in the way of uniting the whole of Cyprus with Greece. You launched your offensive and we resisted. Check the sequence of the dates which EOKA and TMT were established...

We outnumber you 1 to 5+ actually, but of course that didn't stop you from going against the democratic wishes of the Cypriot people because you knew you had turkey behind you.

You can not "democratically wish" to hand over the land, citizenship and rights of TCs to Greece without their consent, period.

EOKA was established to fight the colonialists and that is what they did. We wanted to be free from foreign oppressors. Do you have a problem with that Murataga?

EOKA was established to fight anything and anyone who stood in the way of annexing Cyprus to Greece. And this is exactly what they did, and yes, I do have a problem with this.

The inter-communal conflict started by you, and it is documented in the video I posted earlier. The creation of TMT coincides with the beginning of the inter-communal conflict. So you should check your sequence of events and see that you are the ones who started the conflict.

TMT was established after EOKA and there is a meaning of that sequence.

Rights are not valid when it only suits you. We all have rights and all of our rights have limitations. Your rights are as that of a COMMUNITY; do you accept this or not?

My rights are those of a Cypriot citizen. How is belonging to a community make my rights less? Do you think we are living in the Ottoman era that you could class anybody you wanted as a second category citizen with lesser rights? What are the limits to my rights are defined only by Cyprus and EU laws, not by you.

Here is how: you did not have the right to assemble an army comprised of GCs and call it the armf of the RoC, you did not have the right to prevent the elected TC representatives to attend their posts in the government, you did not have the right to invite the Greek Army to Cyprus, you did not have the right to pass resolutions on behalf of the RoC stating that her overall objective is to be annexed to Greece, you did not have the right to make any decisions on behalf of the RoC to jeapordize the TC communal safety and well being, you did not have the right to ambargo the members of the TC community from supplies that even included infant medicine, and etc... These illegalities in general have been orchestrated and launched by the GC community against the the TC community for refusing ENOSIS, for refusing to give up their rights granted to them by the international agreements and for not accepting to have Cyprus Hellenized.

The limits to your rights had been defined by a constitution that your elected COMMUNAL leader Makarios agreed and signed. As of now, you have breached almost all of them.

[Oracle]

The Maggot is blind and cannot see that now Cyprus is part of a bigger community ... The EU.

The old arguments have to be re-appraised in light of a changing world. If the only defence is rights established by virtue of the fact that the TCs are a leftover minority from our previous major invasion by the Ottomans .... then there is NO place for them in a modern European country.

If the Turkified-TCs wish to remain by fair means in Cyprus, they have to accept the Democratic and Human Rights in the manner in which they function TODAY.

There is no validity in living with age-old established bad habits of "invade and occupy" .... or "divide and rule" .... or "take more than your fair share".

The Maggot can put these aside and metamorphose to develop wings and fly instead of burrowing and rotting the meat .....

[Piratis]

Murataga, you can continue with your Turkish poems for as long as you want.

It is a fact that always it is the Turks who attacked the Cypriots. It is the Turks who started it all by attacking our island in the first place (we didn't invade their lands, they invaded ours). It is the Turks who started the conflict again in 1957, we were fighting the colonialists because after being oppressed by you and the British we wanted our freedom and you started that conflict and the videos I posted earlier show this clearly. And it is the Turks who attacked us again in 1974, when the previous conflict (which you started) was over since 1968.

We are in war with Turkey from the moment they violated our sovereignty and it is ridiculous to even claim the opposite. That is why what separates northern and southern Cyprus is called cease fire line and there is buffer zone in the middle. If there was no war, then why would it be called a "cease fire" line?

What the Junta of Athens did in 1974, was without our consent and the speech of Makarios at the UN on July 19th 1974 is a proof for this. Still, nobody harmed the TCs during the coup, but Turkey found it as an excuse to start killing 1000s, ethnically cleansing 100s of thousands and raping 100s of under age girls.

Cyprus is a Hellenic island for 1000s of years. The fact is that you are trying by means of murders, ehtnic cleanings, transferring Turkish settlers, destroying our churches and our heritage, and all the other crimes that you are doing against us to change what Cyprus really is.

You started all conflicts and then you complain because you had some consequences. What did you expect? That we will just stand there and see you killing us, raping under age girls and all the other atrocities that you did against and not react to them????

I repeat: Cypriots have never ventured out of their own island to harm anybody. It is the Turks who have invaded us twice with the aim to occupy our lands and violate our rights. All we ever wanted was our freedom and our self determination on our own island.

[miltiades]

I think with Christofias being the president in the south and Talat in the north, we no longer have an excuse for non-solution. So we'll either have a federal united Cyprus or we'll have permanent division in the next year or so. This is the feeling I get.

You never had an excuse for occupying our land regardless of who is the president of Cyprus. Don't hope for a permanent partition. If you do not agree for a fair and democratic solution what will happen is that the war that started in 1974 with the invasion of Cyprus by Turkey will continue.

The war started when you ousted the TCs from the government by force, started killing TCs simply for refusing to give up their rights granted by the Zurich Agrement, invited the Greek army to help you out with your murders and enclaving the TCs for not submitting to your agression - which all occured before 1974. 1974 was nothing but our exit from the enclaves and crippling your dream of ENOSIS.

Progress for any and all fair solutions will begin the minute you accept that you are nothing but ONE of the TWO communities of Cyprus. Let us know when you are ready.

As one who does not accept the existence of two communities but sees all Cypriots as one , basicaly in the same light that Turkey does not see two or more communities , would you agree with me that since you , by you I mean specifically you , might suggest to Turkey to accept the existence of the Kurds numbering some 15 million and begin by at least allowing them to use their own language in public. Turkey must begin what it preaches by acting firstly at home.

[paaul12]

What has really changed, prior to the election it was a Papadopoulos / Christofias led government

Today they will have a Christofias / Papadopoulos led government

Therefore there will be no change and despite the statements of a plan for a settlement, things should resort to normal very shortly.

[DT.]

What has really changed, prior to the election it was a Papadopoulos / Christofias led government

Today they will have a Christofias / Papadopoulos led government

Therefore there will be no change and despite the statements of a plan for a settlement, things should resort to normal very shortly.

Right on cue...If you were Cypriot I'd have a discussion with you about this but seeing as your turkish, then you can read up on the Cyprus news from your local papers like the rest of the world.

[RAFAELLA]

Come on people I don't hear enthisiam or jubilation...... whats up cookies????

Ran out of Che Guevara flags.....

...and

[purdey]

Early days...George Bush and his team will be searching for an atlas to see where Cyprus is...

[paliometoxo]

dont think bush cares where cyprus is...its a tiny rock smaller then london to him.. not worth the hassle

[purdey]

George may not,but his advisors see Cyprus as a great staging point to the middle east.Believe me the Americans are already running around in a panic.