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[miltiades]

Once or twice a month I treat my self to a superb wine but rarely one of the ones mentioned above.
I have a customer based in St James Street Picadilly , he pays me in wines !!

[kafenes]

Here is a list of 10 of the most superb Bordeaux wines at "realistic " prices !!!
1.Chateau Talbot 1953 Grand Cru Classe St Julien £294.97

2.Chateau Ausone 1955 1ere Grand Cru Classe St Emilion £247.97

3.Chateau Leoville Lascases 1955 2eme Grand Cru Classe St Julien £248.97

4.Chateau Chasse Spleen 1945 Medoc £299.97

5.Chateau Haut Brion 1966 1ere Grand Cru Classe Pessac £229.97

6.Chateau Latour 1985 1ere Grand Cru Classe Pauillac £239.97

7.Chateau Mouton Rothschild 1966 1ere Cru Grand Classe Pauillac £269.97

8.Chateau Ducru Beaucaillou 1953 2ere Grand Cru Classe St Julien £299.97

9.Chateau Latour a Pomerol 1970 Pomerol £249.97

10.Chateau Leoville - Poyferre 1953 St Julien 2eme Grand Cru Classe £298.97

Prices per bottle !!

REALISTIC????

Sorry my friend Miltiades, I would never pay that much for a bottle of wine or any other beverage.

[Filitsa]

Kafenes said in a post above

"Nikitas, all I can tell is whether I like it or not and that's just about it. A £2 wine to me could taste the same as a £200 one. But when it comes to food, I have the gift to eat something and be able to tell you the exact ingredients"

If you can tell the ingredients in food then you will be able to tell the difference in wines. You and I must take a "voyage de degustation" through France. It will be an education for us both. When i was studying in the UK I went to France as often as I could, to get away from the beer culture of the UK (and the women in France are more feminine, but that is my opinion). That is where I learned about wine. But not enough, I have left a major part of the syllabus untouched. Need to go back for my masters degree.

Next time you are in a wine merchants get a bottle of Chianti Classico. If they have Frescobaldi Chianti Classico get that one. Open it and take a breath of the wine. Now that is a start to your education. Open a bottle of a cheap Cyprus red next and breath in and compare. And I am betting you will be able to tell the difference! If I lose the bet I promise to drink the Frescobaldi all by myself. Notice that it is an Italian wine I ask you to try and not French, to avoid any charge of snobbishness!

Hi KAFENES , may I say that there is nothing snobby about French wines , it is the pretentious so called wine connoisseurs , who incidentally the few that I met drink less than a bottle a week , who come out with a string of pre written descriptions and mostly much nonsense.
The French good wines are by far the best on this earth. The average however French table wine is easily comparable to many of other table wines the world over.
Cyprus wines , I have said this before , are drinkable some more drinkable than others but nothing comparable to the French prime wines.
The whites of Cyprus are perfectly drinkable especially the VARDALIS and KIHOTIS , beware of New label Cypriot wines costing way above the average Cypriot price for a bottle , these new wines are not worthy of their price tug but are pretentious wines made from same variety of grapes with a "sexed "up label as a marketing coy .
Greek wines , mainland Greece , are mostly very average for the region and nothing special , some cost quite a lot , but I must say I do enjoy a bottle of Retsina .
Here is a list of 10 of the most superb Bordeaux wines at "realistic " prices !!!
1.Chateau Talbot 1953 Grand Cru Classe St Julien £294.97

2.Chateau Ausone 1955 1ere Grand Cru Classe St Emilion £247.97

3.Chateau Leoville Lascases 1955 2eme Grand Cru Classe St Julien £248.97

4.Chateau Chasse Spleen 1945 Medoc £299.97

5.Chateau Haut Brion 1966 1ere Grand Cru Classe Pessac £229.97

6.Chateau Latour 1985 1ere Grand Cru Classe Pauillac £239.97

7.Chateau Mouton Rothschild 1966 1ere Cru Grand Classe Pauillac £269.97

8.Chateau Ducru Beaucaillou 1953 2ere Grand Cru Classe St Julien £299.97

9.Chateau Latour a Pomerol 1970 Pomerol £249.97

10.Chateau Leoville - Poyferre 1953 St Julien 2eme Grand Cru Classe £298.97

Prices per bottle !!
Drink up !

Thank the almighty I am no 'connoisseur'. I will never pay more than £7 for a bottle of red. I still enjoy it though. I hope I have not ruined your palate Miltiades.

Here are two recommendations in your price range, Deniz: Dogajalo (80% Sangiovese and 20% Cabernet, a smooth fruity red from Tuscany (great with dark chocolate) and Yellow Tail Reserve Shiraz (particularly 2004), Australian (in case you can't tell by the name ).

[denizaksulu]

Kafenes said in a post above

"Nikitas, all I can tell is whether I like it or not and that's just about it. A £2 wine to me could taste the same as a £200 one. But when it comes to food, I have the gift to eat something and be able to tell you the exact ingredients"

If you can tell the ingredients in food then you will be able to tell the difference in wines. You and I must take a "voyage de degustation" through France. It will be an education for us both. When i was studying in the UK I went to France as often as I could, to get away from the beer culture of the UK (and the women in France are more feminine, but that is my opinion). That is where I learned about wine. But not enough, I have left a major part of the syllabus untouched. Need to go back for my masters degree.

Next time you are in a wine merchants get a bottle of Chianti Classico. If they have Frescobaldi Chianti Classico get that one. Open it and take a breath of the wine. Now that is a start to your education. Open a bottle of a cheap Cyprus red next and breath in and compare. And I am betting you will be able to tell the difference! If I lose the bet I promise to drink the Frescobaldi all by myself. Notice that it is an Italian wine I ask you to try and not French, to avoid any charge of snobbishness!

Hi KAFENES , may I say that there is nothing snobby about French wines , it is the pretentious so called wine connoisseurs , who incidentally the few that I met drink less than a bottle a week , who come out with a string of pre written descriptions and mostly much nonsense.
The French good wines are by far the best on this earth. The average however French table wine is easily comparable to many of other table wines the world over.
Cyprus wines , I have said this before , are drinkable some more drinkable than others but nothing comparable to the French prime wines.
The whites of Cyprus are perfectly drinkable especially the VARDALIS and KIHOTIS , beware of New label Cypriot wines costing way above the average Cypriot price for a bottle , these new wines are not worthy of their price tug but are pretentious wines made from same variety of grapes with a "sexed "up label as a marketing coy .
Greek wines , mainland Greece , are mostly very average for the region and nothing special , some cost quite a lot , but I must say I do enjoy a bottle of Retsina .
Here is a list of 10 of the most superb Bordeaux wines at "realistic " prices !!!
1.Chateau Talbot 1953 Grand Cru Classe St Julien £294.97

2.Chateau Ausone 1955 1ere Grand Cru Classe St Emilion £247.97

3.Chateau Leoville Lascases 1955 2eme Grand Cru Classe St Julien £248.97

4.Chateau Chasse Spleen 1945 Medoc £299.97

5.Chateau Haut Brion 1966 1ere Grand Cru Classe Pessac £229.97

6.Chateau Latour 1985 1ere Grand Cru Classe Pauillac £239.97

7.Chateau Mouton Rothschild 1966 1ere Cru Grand Classe Pauillac £269.97

8.Chateau Ducru Beaucaillou 1953 2ere Grand Cru Classe St Julien £299.97

9.Chateau Latour a Pomerol 1970 Pomerol £249.97

10.Chateau Leoville - Poyferre 1953 St Julien 2eme Grand Cru Classe £298.97

Prices per bottle !!
Drink up !

Thank the almighty I am no 'connoisseur'. I will never pay more than £7 for a bottle of red. I still enjoy it though. I hope I have not ruined your palate Miltiades.

Here are two recommendations in your price range, Deniz: Dogajalo (80% Sangiovese and 20% Cabernet, a smooth fruity red from Tuscany (great with dark chocolate) and Yellow Tail Reserve Shiraz (particularly 2004), Australian (in case you can't tell by the name ).

Thank you Filitsa. This poor church mouse will look out for the reccomendations. I will let you know how well it goes down.

[denizaksulu]

Kafenes said in a post above

"Nikitas, all I can tell is whether I like it or not and that's just about it. A £2 wine to me could taste the same as a £200 one. But when it comes to food, I have the gift to eat something and be able to tell you the exact ingredients"

If you can tell the ingredients in food then you will be able to tell the difference in wines. You and I must take a "voyage de degustation" through France. It will be an education for us both. When i was studying in the UK I went to France as often as I could, to get away from the beer culture of the UK (and the women in France are more feminine, but that is my opinion). That is where I learned about wine. But not enough, I have left a major part of the syllabus untouched. Need to go back for my masters degree.

Next time you are in a wine merchants get a bottle of Chianti Classico. If they have Frescobaldi Chianti Classico get that one. Open it and take a breath of the wine. Now that is a start to your education. Open a bottle of a cheap Cyprus red next and breath in and compare. And I am betting you will be able to tell the difference! If I lose the bet I promise to drink the Frescobaldi all by myself. Notice that it is an Italian wine I ask you to try and not French, to avoid any charge of snobbishness!

Hi KAFENES , may I say that there is nothing snobby about French wines , it is the pretentious so called wine connoisseurs , who incidentally the few that I met drink less than a bottle a week , who come out with a string of pre written descriptions and mostly much nonsense.
The French good wines are by far the best on this earth. The average however French table wine is easily comparable to many of other table wines the world over.
Cyprus wines , I have said this before , are drinkable some more drinkable than others but nothing comparable to the French prime wines.
The whites of Cyprus are perfectly drinkable especially the VARDALIS and KIHOTIS , beware of New label Cypriot wines costing way above the average Cypriot price for a bottle , these new wines are not worthy of their price tug but are pretentious wines made from same variety of grapes with a "sexed "up label as a marketing coy .
Greek wines , mainland Greece , are mostly very average for the region and nothing special , some cost quite a lot , but I must say I do enjoy a bottle of Retsina .
Here is a list of 10 of the most superb Bordeaux wines at "realistic " prices !!!
1.Chateau Talbot 1953 Grand Cru Classe St Julien £294.97

2.Chateau Ausone 1955 1ere Grand Cru Classe St Emilion £247.97

3.Chateau Leoville Lascases 1955 2eme Grand Cru Classe St Julien £248.97

4.Chateau Chasse Spleen 1945 Medoc £299.97

5.Chateau Haut Brion 1966 1ere Grand Cru Classe Pessac £229.97

6.Chateau Latour 1985 1ere Grand Cru Classe Pauillac £239.97

7.Chateau Mouton Rothschild 1966 1ere Cru Grand Classe Pauillac £269.97

8.Chateau Ducru Beaucaillou 1953 2ere Grand Cru Classe St Julien £299.97

9.Chateau Latour a Pomerol 1970 Pomerol £249.97

10.Chateau Leoville - Poyferre 1953 St Julien 2eme Grand Cru Classe £298.97

Prices per bottle !!
Drink up !

Thank the almighty I am no 'connoisseur'. I will never pay more than £7 for a bottle of red. I still enjoy it though. I hope I have not ruined your palate Miltiades.

Here are two recommendations in your price range, Deniz: Dogajalo (80% Sangiovese and 20% Cabernet, a smooth fruity red from Tuscany (great with dark chocolate) and Yellow Tail Reserve Shiraz (particularly 2004), Australian (in case you can't tell by the name ).

Thank you Filitsa. This poor church mouse will look out for the reccomendations. I will let you know how well it goes down.

[halil]

there are some Turkish Cypriot wines are available, Aphrodite, Kantara and Salamis. ...

I like Aphrodite ones.

They are all around 2-3 UK pound each. You must try ........

Miltiades , Deniz, Webbo i am sure you will like them . Very cheap and good wines .

Anybody at forum tested ?

[denizaksulu]

there are some Turkish Cypriot wines are available, Aphrodite, Kantara and Salamis. ...

I like Aphrodite ones.

They are all around 2-3 UK pound each. You must try ........

Miltiades , Deniz, Webbo i am sure you will like them . Very cheap and good wines .

Anybody at forum tested ?

Not yet Halil. Give us a chance.

[Ruserious]

My personal opinion is there is no such thing as a good cheap wine. It is cheap for a reason! Here are a couple of recommendations (not cheap but affordable

MASI Corbec 2002 (Argentina) - 30Euros
Marques de Caceres 2000 Gran Reserva - 27Euros
AVATON Gerovassiliou 2003 - 24Euros

Enjoy!

[Nikitas]

Gerovasiliou is my favorite Greek red too, I prefer the Ktima Gerovasiliou.

For everyday use I go for the Pays D'Oc wines. The Pays D'Oc is the area of France which goes south towards Spain, the Med side of it. They reorganised their vineyards some years ago and now produce good wines which cost a lot less than Greek wines in Greece. Fovorites are Merlo, Syrah, Cabernet and from the whites the Sauvignon. About 4 Euros a bottle ranks at the bottom of the price scale at our local supermarket. But they are still as good as the Greek wines at twice the cost or more.

[denizaksulu]

My personal opinion is there is no such thing as a good cheap wine. It is cheap for a reason! Here are a couple of recommendations (not cheap but affordable

MASI Corbec 2002 (Argentina) - 30Euros
Marques de Caceres 2000 Gran Reserva - 27Euros
AVATON Gerovassiliou 2003 - 24Euros

Enjoy!

Hic! Cheers mate.