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How can we solve it? (keep it civilized)

Postby Paphitis » Sun Feb 24, 2008 2:16 pm

Well, the last time I was in Paphos (2005), most people wanted a solution. It is just that they probably think that Tpap is the person that would provide a just and viable solution and they are entitled to their opinion. It is their democratic right.

It is absurd to suggest that Paphites do not want a solution because they support Tpap and due to their property prices crashing. I have not met a Paphian that only cares about their property prices and do not want a solution.

On the contrary, if a solution was achieved, all of Cyprus would in my opinion benefit from rapid economic development and find itself in an accelerated economic boom where all citizens would on average increase their prosperity.
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Postby Bananiot » Sun Feb 24, 2008 2:36 pm

Well, both Kasoulides and Christofias campaigned on the ticket that "Cyprus needs a solution President". May be they know something more than you and me.
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Postby Paphitis » Sun Feb 24, 2008 2:43 pm

I think all three candidates want a solution. The question is, who is most likely to deliver just that.

The Cypriot No vote for the Annan Plan was not a No vote for a solution. It just was a No vote for that particular solution.
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Postby Oracle » Sun Feb 24, 2008 2:49 pm

Bananiot wrote:Of course anyone can vote in any way he or she likes. This is not disputed, it is an unquestionable right in a democracy. It is also my right and everyone else's right to criticise behaviours, actions and inactions. I have the impression that many Paphians will stand against a solution to the Cyprob (even a "good" one) because they think that their economic development will suffer as a result of the solution. Of course, generalisations are not productive, thus I stand to eat my words if the majority of Paphians were to be anything like Miltiades.


Bananiot this is the most insular, parochial view I have heard branded about as a blackmailing attempt to settle for any solution at any long-term costs to Cyprus. Definitely worthy to discuss with the village women tomorrow during coffee time :roll:

No one would dispute that wealth would increase many-fold around the island, if the bad atmosphere that now prevails due to being held to ransom by Turkey ... were to end. So your argument is a non-starter.

The counter argument to yours would have to be, that as vast a sympathy vote as the refugees deserve .. and their return to their homes of paramount and indisputable importance ... a solution to the Cyprus problem for the long term good of the whole island, cannot be abandoned just to please those unfortunate refugees that quite understandably are just desperate to get back to their rightful homes.

And as for Paphitians .... my father gave away his family home to a refugee family ... even though he had to work to make a living.
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Postby Paphitis » Sun Feb 24, 2008 2:52 pm

I agree with you 100%, Oracle.
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Postby miltiades » Sun Feb 24, 2008 2:58 pm

Oracle wrote:
miltiades wrote:
Paphitis wrote:This is identical to the arrogance that Mr Christofias had when he visited Australia to speak to the diaspora, and his replies were very arrogant and obviously indicates that this man is not fit to represent Cyprus on the international arena. He will cause more damage in diplomatic circles rather than solve the Cyprus issue.

Paphitis , welcome to the forum , I entirely agree with your post.
Cyprus needs and International friendly president not Comrade material !
Are you from Paphos originally , I was born in Stroumbi , near Polemi , Yiolou and Kathikas.


Miltiades

I got lost round there this morning.

We took a trip to find the Sulphur springs and although we got close enough to get a definite whiff (although it could have been our dog in the back :? ) ..... I could not for the life of me find them.

We drove round and round the gorgeous hills, full of almond and cherry blossom-dusted trees and finely cropped vines, until we somehow ended up back in Polis ... :?
Not quite sure of the exact location but maybe when I'm there in March we could all try and discover them !!

Any hints?
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Postby miltiades » Sun Feb 24, 2008 3:00 pm

Oracle wrote:
miltiades wrote:
Paphitis wrote:This is identical to the arrogance that Mr Christofias had when he visited Australia to speak to the diaspora, and his replies were very arrogant and obviously indicates that this man is not fit to represent Cyprus on the international arena. He will cause more damage in diplomatic circles rather than solve the Cyprus issue.

Paphitis , welcome to the forum , I entirely agree with your post.
Cyprus needs and International friendly president not Comrade material !
Are you from Paphos originally , I was born in Stroumbi , near Polemi , Yiolou and Kathikas.




I got lost round there this morning.

We took a trip to find the Sulphur springs and although we got close enough to get a definite whiff (although it could have been our dog in the back :? ) ..... I could not for the life of me find them.

We drove round and round the gorgeous hills, full of almond and cherry blossom-dusted trees and finely cropped vines, until we somehow ended up back in Polis ... :?

Any hints?


Not quite sure of the exact location but maybe when I'm there in March we could all try and discover them !!
Here it is again !!
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Postby miltiades » Sun Feb 24, 2008 3:02 pm

Paphitis wrote:Unfortunaltely, Cuba, Moldova, Iran, Mongolia etc are not the ones that will solve the Cyprus problem, so having good relations with these countries will only isolate us just like them. It will also turn us into the EU's little joke.

Cypriots must realise and accept that the countries that hold the key to a solution to the Cyprus problem are The USA, UK, EU nations and the UN. Other countries such as Australia, Canada and NZ can also play some diplomatic roles, as well as Russia. If Christofias is elected, Cyprus will well and truelly alienate itself from the countries that really do matter. It is these countries we need to have on our side if we stand any chance of solving the Cyprus problem.

Miltiades, it is good to meet a like minded Cypriot brother also in the diaspora. I wish your family all the best and good health.

Pafitis join the club mate the TRUE CYPRIOTS CLUB. A fellow Paphian , Birkibrisly also lives in Austarlia , try reading some of his posts , he is so wise.
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Postby miltiades » Sun Feb 24, 2008 3:03 pm

Here here !!
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Postby Paphitis » Sun Feb 24, 2008 3:16 pm

Who is Birkibrisly?
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