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Postby jacoby » Sat Feb 23, 2008 11:22 pm

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kurupetos wrote:I vote Makarios!!!

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Hold up, when did we time travel back to the sixties?!? :shock:



AHahahahah this guy was really the "president" thats funny.....
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Postby Viewpoint » Sat Feb 23, 2008 11:34 pm

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Viewpoint wrote:Your vegence is the using of what happened 500 years ago to excuse what you did only 45 years.


How little that was, compared to what you are doing to us this very minute ...

Ooohh for hindsight, if we had known how much you would have taken, how much you would have made us suffer for the little adjustments we wanted in order to improve our constitution ... :(


"Improve" the constitution to give you free path to handing Cyprus to Greece no thanks we have the right to say no and fight for what we believe is right.
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Postby Oracle » Sat Feb 23, 2008 11:46 pm

Viewpoint wrote:
Oracle wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:Your vegence is the using of what happened 500 years ago to excuse what you did only 45 years.


How little that was, compared to what you are doing to us this very minute ...

Ooohh for hindsight, if we had known how much you would have taken, how much you would have made us suffer for the little adjustments we wanted in order to improve our constitution ... :(


"Improve" the constitution to give you free path to handing Cyprus to Greece no thanks we have the right to say no and fight for what we believe is right.


Who are you to continually tell us what we do with our country ...

Find somebody else to torture ...

Ooohhh that's right ....... not many nations left that you haven't screwed already.
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Postby Viewpoint » Sat Feb 23, 2008 11:48 pm

Piratis wrote:VP, what did I twist my friend? You present your suffering and I present ours, do you have a problem with that? Isn't it a fact that Greek Cypriots are the ones who have been victimized the most and for the longest time, something that continues until today? Isn't it a fact that it is not the Cypriots who invaded Turkey or UK, but the other way around? So stop trying to present yourselves as the victims here.

I want no vengeance for the crimes you are committing against us today let alone for the ones you had committed in the past. What I want is our land and our rights.

And your safeguards can not overwrite our rights. We have suffered and continue to suffer from you WAY more than you did from us, but we do not ask that you should be ethnically cleansed, or have any of your human rights violated, so we will feel safe. What we ask from is democracy and human rights for all, and finally for our island to be free from foreign troops and foreign oppression.


Piratis do you accept that you contributed to the current partition or did we just say one day while everything was running smoothly lets divide the island for fun of it. The current situation can only be resolved if you accept that you to perpetuate division becuase what you want is for us to return to GC dominance with no safeguards to stop your from do whatever you wish, you are asking us to jump into a black hole with no safety net, well its not gonna happen and is the reason why you will never be able to unite the 2 sides.
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Postby Oracle » Sat Feb 23, 2008 11:52 pm

kurupetos wrote:I vote Makarios!!!

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This is such a beautiful picture ... thank you kurupetos.

Do you know he had near-perfect proportions in the classical Hellenic distribution of facial features.... you know 1/3rd for forehead, nose, chin.

Leonardo da Vinci would have approved .... :D
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Postby Viewpoint » Sun Feb 24, 2008 12:01 am

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kurupetos wrote:I vote Makarios!!!

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This is such a beautiful picture ... thank you kurupetos.

Do you know he had near-perfect proportions in the classical Hellenic distribution of facial features.... you know 1/3rd for forehead, nose, chin.

Leonardo da Vinci would have approved .... :D


Didnt he have a passion for 13yo boys???
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Postby Piratis » Sun Feb 24, 2008 12:13 am

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Piratis wrote:VP, what did I twist my friend? You present your suffering and I present ours, do you have a problem with that? Isn't it a fact that Greek Cypriots are the ones who have been victimized the most and for the longest time, something that continues until today? Isn't it a fact that it is not the Cypriots who invaded Turkey or UK, but the other way around? So stop trying to present yourselves as the victims here.

I want no vengeance for the crimes you are committing against us today let alone for the ones you had committed in the past. What I want is our land and our rights.

And your safeguards can not overwrite our rights. We have suffered and continue to suffer from you WAY more than you did from us, but we do not ask that you should be ethnically cleansed, or have any of your human rights violated, so we will feel safe. What we ask from is democracy and human rights for all, and finally for our island to be free from foreign troops and foreign oppression.


Piratis do you accept that you contributed to the current partition or did we just say one day while everything was running smoothly lets divide the island for fun of it. The current situation can only be resolved if you accept that you to perpetuate division becuase what you want is for us to return to GC dominance with no safeguards to stop your from do whatever you wish, you are asking us to jump into a black hole with no safety net, well its not gonna happen and is the reason why you will never be able to unite the 2 sides.


No VP, we didn't contribute to partition. We contributed with about 1% to the crimes committed and to them mistakes, but partition was your plan all along since the 50s.

If you want to punish us for that 1% of blame that we have, then what should be the punishment for the 99% of blame that you have? How can you demand that you should be rewarded on our loss when you have most of the blame?

What I say is that nobody should be punished, and nobody should gain on the loss of another. That we should finally have our freedom, with democracy and no human rights violations. You can have as many safeguards as you want, as long as those safeguards do not violate our rights. So far what you demand is violation of our rights and you gaining land and power on our loss and that obviously can not be accepted.
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Postby Oracle » Sun Feb 24, 2008 12:16 am

Viewpoint wrote:
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kurupetos wrote:I vote Makarios!!!

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This is such a beautiful picture ... thank you kurupetos.

Do you know he had near-perfect proportions in the classical Hellenic distribution of facial features.... you know 1/3rd for forehead, nose, chin.

Leonardo da Vinci would have approved .... :D


Didnt he have a passion for 13yo boys???


No.

You sick Turks can think of nothing else.
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Postby Viewpoint » Sun Feb 24, 2008 12:24 am

Piratis wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
Piratis wrote:VP, what did I twist my friend? You present your suffering and I present ours, do you have a problem with that? Isn't it a fact that Greek Cypriots are the ones who have been victimized the most and for the longest time, something that continues until today? Isn't it a fact that it is not the Cypriots who invaded Turkey or UK, but the other way around? So stop trying to present yourselves as the victims here.

I want no vengeance for the crimes you are committing against us today let alone for the ones you had committed in the past. What I want is our land and our rights.

And your safeguards can not overwrite our rights. We have suffered and continue to suffer from you WAY more than you did from us, but we do not ask that you should be ethnically cleansed, or have any of your human rights violated, so we will feel safe. What we ask from is democracy and human rights for all, and finally for our island to be free from foreign troops and foreign oppression.


Piratis do you accept that you contributed to the current partition or did we just say one day while everything was running smoothly lets divide the island for fun of it. The current situation can only be resolved if you accept that you to perpetuate division becuase what you want is for us to return to GC dominance with no safeguards to stop your from do whatever you wish, you are asking us to jump into a black hole with no safety net, well its not gonna happen and is the reason why you will never be able to unite the 2 sides.


No VP, we didn't contribute to partition. We contributed with about 1% to the crimes committed and to them mistakes, but partition was your plan all along since the 50s.

If you want to punish us for that 1% of blame that we have, then what should be the punishment for the 99% of blame that you have? How can you demand that you should be rewarded on our loss when you have most of the blame?

What I say is that nobody should be punished, and nobody should gain on the loss of another. That we should finally have our freedom, with democracy and no human rights violations. You can have as many safeguards as you want, as long as those safeguards do not violate our rights. So far what you demand is violation of our rights and you gaining land and power on our loss and that obviously can not be accepted.


Thank you for being so precise, the 1% can also be the cause of the division today, Taksim was in response to enosis yet you blindly continue to believe that without division the TCs would have been better off living if allowed that little right on a Greek island today, you ust be crazy we had to fight back we were left with no choice, it was you who forced our hand towards partition so you have yourselves to thank for the division you loathe so much.

Does wanting the right to say no in situations of danger like gifting Cyprus to Greece violate your rights?
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Postby Get Real! » Sun Feb 24, 2008 12:30 am

Viewpoint wrote:Didnt he have a passion for 13yo boys???

That's your dad you're confusing him with...
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