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Postby Piratis » Sat Feb 23, 2008 3:51 pm

Viewpoint wrote:Very entertaining lets watch the GC people choose their leader, which one is more likely to have the vision desire or determination to display a stance unknown to GCs in order to compromise and find a solution??


Viewpoint, can you tell me what compromises you have made from your rights in order to achieve solution? You have made none, and on the contrary you demand to gain even more on our loss.

We have made a ton of compromises, but you will accept nothing short of partition, and this is why a solution can not be found.
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Postby Viewpoint » Sat Feb 23, 2008 3:53 pm

Piratis wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:Very entertaining lets watch the GC people choose their leader, which one is more likely to have the vision desire or determination to display a stance unknown to GCs in order to compromise and find a solution??


Viewpoint, can you tell me what compromises you have made from your rights in order to achieve solution? You have made none, and on the contrary you demand to gain even more on our loss.

We have made a ton of compromises, but you will accept nothing short of partition, and this is why a solution can not be found.


Non recognition,

Your hijacking of the "RoC"

Slaughter of TCs

Living in ghettos for 11 years

Discriminaiton by GCs

Persecution

The attempted gifting of my country to Greece come to mind.
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Postby Oracle » Sat Feb 23, 2008 3:59 pm

Viewpoint wrote:Very entertaining lets watch the GC people choose their leader, which one is more likely to have the vision desire or determination to display a stance unknown to GCs in order to compromise and find a solution??


Watch and learn ... it must be very interesting for you spectators on the sidelines. Observing something which you cannot reproduce in your pseudo-state .... fair, democratic, recognised, free elections .... :lol:
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Postby Daemon » Sat Feb 23, 2008 4:00 pm

You write so much thinking that communism is "sick" but Anglo-American and Greco-Turkish plans to partition Cyprus are not?


I’ve speak about us and who is cultivate the division between the people.

Anglo-Americans and Greco-Turkish (anyway I wonder if you mean what we can do a shit with out the help of Greece) are looking their interests and I will not open the same conversation again with a brainwashed that still try to present his political enemies as traitors. Patriotism and ballism(I’ve just thought this wonderful word about the ball-less sissies) just face reality and they don’t cry like sissies. Casoulides is a Greek Cypriot that looks after the good of his county and he tries to build our relations mostly in Europe but how he could do otherwise where the US is the biggest power of the world? Everything dogmatic on this issue is just sick.

As about the last argument of Piratis it is still ridiculous since this position is one of the positions of TPap. The problem that TPap created is what he feeded all the brainwashed (mostly from their own daemons) with hate and fanatism and they don’t even see his official positions.
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Postby Piratis » Sat Feb 23, 2008 4:01 pm

Viewpoint wrote:
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Viewpoint wrote:Very entertaining lets watch the GC people choose their leader, which one is more likely to have the vision desire or determination to display a stance unknown to GCs in order to compromise and find a solution??


Viewpoint, can you tell me what compromises you have made from your rights in order to achieve solution? You have made none, and on the contrary you demand to gain even more on our loss.

We have made a ton of compromises, but you will accept nothing short of partition, and this is why a solution can not be found.


Non recognition,

Your hijacking of the "RoC"

Slaughter of TCs

Living in ghettos for 11 years

Discriminaiton by GCs

Persecution

The attempted gifting of my country to Greece come to mind.


And what are the above??

Or you are trying to change the discussion? We all know that you suffered 1, and we suffered 100. For every TC slaughtered you slaughtered 100 GCs, you complain about 11 years of discrimination, but your occupation lasts for 3 times as much, and previously you had discriminated against us and oppressed us for 30 times as much. But past suffering is not the question now.

The question is: What compromises from your rights have you made in order to find a solution. The answer is none, isn't it VP?
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Postby Viewpoint » Sat Feb 23, 2008 4:02 pm

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Viewpoint wrote:Very entertaining lets watch the GC people choose their leader, which one is more likely to have the vision desire or determination to display a stance unknown to GCs in order to compromise and find a solution??


Watch and learn ... it must be very interesting for you spectators on the sidelines. Observing something which you cannot reproduce in your pseudo-state .... fair, democratic, recognised, free elections .... :lol:

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Postby Get Real! » Sat Feb 23, 2008 4:04 pm

Viewpoint wrote:
Piratis wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:Very entertaining lets watch the GC people choose their leader, which one is more likely to have the vision desire or determination to display a stance unknown to GCs in order to compromise and find a solution??


Viewpoint, can you tell me what compromises you have made from your rights in order to achieve solution? You have made none, and on the contrary you demand to gain even more on our loss.

We have made a ton of compromises, but you will accept nothing short of partition, and this is why a solution can not be found.


Non recognition,

Your hijacking of the "RoC"

Slaughter of TCs

Living in ghettos for 11 years

Discriminaiton by GCs

Persecution

The attempted gifting of my country to Greece come to mind.

Why don't you just give up and let some other TC represent you because you're as boring and predictable as Grivas' long decomposed grandma...
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Postby Daemon » Sat Feb 23, 2008 4:15 pm

Grivas was a dickhead like you and I agree what somehow he was predictable, all the dickhead are. That’s why I become a prophet about some dickhead politicians.

But he did save Greece from communistic crap so even dickheads have some use in the chaos of reality. So don’t be so harsh with your self, the dickheads are not so useless for humanity. :D
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Postby Oracle » Sat Feb 23, 2008 4:18 pm

Daemon wrote:Grivas was a dickhead like you and I agree what somehow he was predictable, all the dickhead are. That’s why I become a prophet about some dickhead politicians.

But he did save Greece from communistic crap so even dickheads have some use in the chaos of reality. So don’t be so harsh with your self, the dickheads are not so useless for humanity. :D


.... he just wasn't very good at telling the difference between Communists and patriots :roll:
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Postby Viewpoint » Sat Feb 23, 2008 4:19 pm

Piratis wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
Piratis wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:Very entertaining lets watch the GC people choose their leader, which one is more likely to have the vision desire or determination to display a stance unknown to GCs in order to compromise and find a solution??


Viewpoint, can you tell me what compromises you have made from your rights in order to achieve solution? You have made none, and on the contrary you demand to gain even more on our loss.

We have made a ton of compromises, but you will accept nothing short of partition, and this is why a solution can not be found.


Non recognition,

Your hijacking of the "RoC"

Slaughter of TCs

Living in ghettos for 11 years

Discriminaiton by GCs

Persecution

The attempted gifting of my country to Greece come to mind.


And what are the above??

Or you are trying to change the discussion? We all know that you suffered 1, and we suffered 100. For every TC slaughtered you slaughtered 100 GCs, you complain about 11 years of discrimination, but your occupation lasts for 3 times as much, and previously you had discriminated against us and oppressed us for 30 times as much. But past suffering is not the question now.

The question is: What compromises from your rights have you made in order to find a solution. The answer is none, isn't it VP?


When were you given the opportunity to build a united Cyprus 1571? your venom for what happened 500 years ago is well known on the forum thats just another good reason why a union with people of your mental capacity should be so water tight that it will not allow you to repeat the mistakes of the past, your every comment indicates you wish to take control of the whole island and do us a favor by letting us reside like foreigners in our own country. Well that aint never gonna happen, we all have to make compromises for our misktakes your is loss of life and land ours is life and recognition, so as long as the vision and desire to agree a solution does not materialize we will continue on as we are.

The compromise we face today is what we have in the TRNC or the GCs with our dark past, which do we choose a Turkey who has supported and protected os for the last 34 years or a GC people who have treated us like shit and wanted us out of the way to reach their dream of enosis?

The compromise would be to,

Give up the TRNC

Give up the protection of the Turkish Army

Risk our future

Risk being dragged into debate and termoil by GCs to getting agreements overturned or amended.

Risk being attacked by GC fanatics

Allowing the GCs to move back into the North are all compromises but this you do not want to acknowledge or accept because according to you we are trying to get one up on the GCs, far from it all want is a peaceful life with an effective say in our own future.
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