Natty wrote:If one opts for what is merely achievable in their minds, they are twice denying themselves.
So you prefer my system ... but think Kikapu's is more achievable ... and if that were not to be achieved ... all has failed.
And if that were to be achieved... you still have not got what your heart desires ... so again you have failed.
Kik's system is fine for a country like US ... not Cyprus.
That’s not entirely true, because even though I’m not getting exactly what I want, If Kikapu’s system were to be achieved I believe that it could lead to a situation that would be very close to what my heart desires, So in essence I only fail once, which is always better than twice…Treat each situation by its own merits. It's not one glove fits all ... as women we know we can knit that glove bigger or smaller....
So decide what you want on its merits ... not just on whether it's considered achievable ...
Otherwise we would never have made it to the moon
You know I wish I had your level of determination and hope Oracle. I try and hope for the Cyprus I want, but then I get a slap in the face by reality. You have to remember that our side has agreed to a solution based on a federation, so that’s most probably what we’re going to be getting anyway. And that being the case, my preferred form of federation is what Kikapu has put forward. Achieving anything other than a federation would have to mean some sort of a shift in world power, and I don’t see that happening any time soon.
Although, I must say, I never thought that I would ever get to see the North in my lifetime. To me it was always some sort of mythical place, almost like the Garden of Eden, but see I did, and as you mentioned man kind did eventually get to the moon, so maybe I should stick by my guns and hold out? Although hold out for how long? Even though currently I don’t have children, I am planning on having children in the future, and I would hope that I don’t have to pass on the legacy of ‘The Cyprus problem’ to them.
I suppose I would prefer being just happy with a solution (as opposed to absolutely thrilled) rather than despairing for a lifetime and not actually achieving anything, and with Kikapu’s system I think I could be…
Hi Natty,
Just wanted to thank you for supporting the kind of peace settlement I see most plausible for Cyprus at this point in time, which is a True Federation. It is a hell of a lot better than a disguised partition with the BBF that the Partitionist wants, so that at some point in the future they would want to declare Independence......again, and more likely to get it, because the BBF would make it a "Turkish State" or as Kifeas calls it "Virgin Birth", and more practical than a Unitary State the Nationalist wants, so that they can see themselves as the rulers of Cyprus, which the TC's will not welcome at all.. After all that has happened in the last 45 years, we need to give everyone a certain amount of "breathing space" to at least feel like they belong to a one particular State in the Union of Cyprus, and at the same time, be proud to be a Cypriot. With every ones Human, Democratic and Constitutional Rights are protected under the Federal Government, the North and South States will not be able to do anything that will undermine those rights. No community will own any one state as their own, but only be the majority, but not through a draconian measures with quotas, but with the freedom of movement and choice. What it is today, will remain for very long time for both the North and South as well as a separate entity for Nicosia as a separate district that includes both GC's and TC's.
"We don't want no stinking divided city anymore".
Hope you stick around for a while on the forum.
