Oracle wrote:Natty wrote:Oracle wrote:Natty wrote:Oracle I don't think you can claim every action by the GC's was self-defence, what about those 'highly intelligent' GC's who attacked for the sake of attacking?
BTW ... I don't think I made such a claim
.... sick people exist.
Well you did say...
Any actions by GCs against TCs were purely in defence.
So I presumed that you meant all actions, which include the actions of those few sick people...but I apologise if I interpreted what you said incorrectly..
Who were these oddballs?
Very
bad people who did Cyprus no favours what so ever...
In the context of my exchange with shah ...
any meant as in the legitimate response to the Turk-TC massacres etc under discussion ... otherwise I would have said
each and
every or
all .
So then, who were these bad people? ... do you know of any specific ones?
Again, I apologise for misinterpreting what you wrote…
Well I do happen to know that one of these oddballs was my fathers, mothers, cousins, husbands....not really…
No I don't know anyone specifically. Understanding that particular period of Cyprus history is one I've attempted and failed to understand on many occasions. As you can probably tell I'm a bit of a history nut, I believe that understanding what happened in the past is so vital to understanding the present, and also for planning the future, I mean you wouldn't want to make the same mistakes over and over again would you? It is frustrating to say the least, having to sift through so called facts and determine what is right and what is wrong, especially when there is so much propaganda flying around. However this is what I have understood of that period thus far, there was a conflict between the two communities. Each 'side' had various militant groups who fought each other to gain positions of strongholds across the Island. Unfortunately some of these militant groups also engaged in criminal actions against innocent civilians (and I'm talking about both sides now). It is these odd balls of whom I speak…
Come to think of it, I did read somewhere that Nicos Sampson’s group were particularly culpable, whether that’s true or not I don’t know..
Anyway I’ve been reading your discussion with Kikapu, and what you suggest is what I would class as my ideal solution. A strong Unitary state, one man (or person)/ one vote, no racial discriminations and plenty of blending (for some reason I’ve just had a sudden craving for a smoothie…), however I think one has to be slightly more realistic and look for a solution that would be more achievable, and that’s where I think Kikapu’s suggestion comes into play. I do think that having a federal system in Cyprus is slightly ridiculous, especially when you look at the size of the country, but one has to compromise and as long as it’s a
true federation, with a
strong central government and
no limitations on how many people from either community can live in the North and the south, then I think it could work. And as for the blending (again an image of a smoothie has just popped into my head) well I believe that as the years pass by and the ‘Cyprus problem’ starts becoming a distant memory, people will gradually begin to blend again. And who knows, a few generations down the line Cyprus may become almost exactly what it used to be 100 or 200 years ago. So I’d see Kikapu’s solution almost as a stepping stone to a reunified,
fully blended Cyprus…
Now, I’m off to get me a smoothie…
Hmmm...Strawberries and Banana…
Kikapu is not even in your quotes .. 
