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[Oracle]

I don't want data, i just want to hear your opinions, because they are usually so one sided that you totally ignore the "cause and effect" side of things, so every time you blame the Turks for something, i then give you the opposite "cause" or the "effect" but you always ignore it and continue spreading bullshit like you have done nothing and we just HAPPENED to invade Cyprus, and we just HAPPENED to kill everyone, and we just HAPPENED to bury ourselves into mass graves and the island just HAPPENED to be divided by the Turks, and so on.

THATS what I'm talking about, i know exactly what happened here, i have done my homework long time ago from various sources, I'm just curious to know your sources and reasoning behind your racist bollocks, if there is any that is

I think you talk purely out of emotion and grudge, which holds no water in this debate unfortunately, because there will always be someone who has been more hurt then you have and there is no end to it, at least you are lucky to be here to tell the story, not everyone is that lucky.

Yet your "all for defense" excuse was my all time favourite here, keep them coming Phoenix, i am your greatest fan.

Shah ... you admit you can access the data .... I also can access the data.

However, you are way younger than me ... and I have had a whole lot of experiences you have not ... but I do not bash you about your lack of experience.

Unfortunately, I also know there are many GCs that have suffered worse than me ... but because I know how my experience with the Turks has ruined certain aspects of my life ... I can extrapolate and sympathise with the awful, unbearable hurt they must be going through.

But what of you?

You, who was not even born when any of these "interesting" conflicts were being enacted .... what is you alethiometer ... your compass of truth ...

What pushes your buttons...

How do you decide, without personal experience to guide you, what issues to address?

Why are you so angry when you are living in the perfect set-up ... and have never had personal experience of these evil GCs?

At least I know for a fact the Turks were out to kill me .... that's what pushes my button!

So go on shah .... make my day ..... tell me why you are angry?

Don't get me wrong madam i am far from being angry, i do not need to be angry, even if that's how it comes across to be, lets just blame it on the Internet chat.

On the other hand, yes i am much younger then you and i never claim to know it all, no one does but i believe i am old enough to be able to differentiate good from evil, right from wrong, and from where i am standing you are wrong, never mind the age, it doesn't take a 90 year old wise guy to spot racist tendencies from ones words now does it?

My set up is far from perfect, i was born into a conflict which I'm yet to see the end of but people like you advocate otherwise with total disregard of the innocent by standers here, sweeping us all with the same brush.

Now if i, and everyone else here thought like you did, then there would be no chance for a solution here what so ever, making you a part of the problem and that's a fact!

We would all be perpetuating other peoples grudge and hate to the next generation, i mean just look at Palio, the guy is even younger than me and he is literally out to kill the Turks

Now that's my understanding of right and wrong madam, i can put emotions to a side and search after the right thing to do, can you, with your years of experience and wisdom, say the same thing about yourself?

And don't tell me how much the Turks made you suffer because my family has suffered a LOT and do not hold the same views as you do, and I'm sure they are not the only ones, but you are one of a kind.

So that's one way of looking at it, or you can just continue spreading one sided propaganda as you keep doing, no problem, ill just contradict everything you say as usual, and ill do it with pleasure.

But in reality that makes you look a LOT younger then i am, because it is simply irrational logic pursued by a so called elderly woman.

You may be young in years, but you sound older than the last guy that was buried in our village (96).

Your blind hatred stops you from even discussing the fact that this whole thread is about a blending of our cultures, differences, whatever.

A chance to push down barriers, and the past, and move on.

The experiment is complete.

There are young Turks out there ... yourself included ... that do not want a solution.

You want reminders of past conflicts.

........ to satisfy your sick minds, and continue the divide.

No solutions with corrupt youth like yourself shah ...

I would respect you if you came out and admitted you do not want a solution.
You are merely out to thwart old-timers like myself who know the pain ... and want a real solution.

For you it is a game..... you have not suffered ... it means nothing.

Shah .. go back to your playhouse ...

[repulsewarrior]

Shah, do you cook?

[repulsewarrior]

OP i like you, if that is a photo of you, you are very beautiful too.

[miltiades]

Shah , as you know I do not subscribe to Oracle's views in fact I have been very critical of her views , at the same time I have been very critical of your views. Let me explain why .The Cyprus conflict occurred because the fanatics on both sides brainwashed their people with propaganda and lies in order for both to achieve their goals. You are referring to VILLAGES , in plural , of having been massacred buried alive , can you tell that your continual reference to such " events " mostly to be found on Turkish propaganda sites do anything but stir up emotions and sustain the levels of hatred ? Phoenix does precisely the opposite , you call her a racist , and I suppose You are not. Look mate , all that happen in Cyprus is a great tragedy and all that happened was as a direct result of the extremists and the motherland bullshitters , extreme views such as yours , Oracles , Zan's , Palimetoho ARE RESPONSIBLE .
You support wholeheartedly all that Turkey does , even today you are full of pride because the Turkish army entered Iraq to wipe out the Kurds ! The only thing that they will wipe is their arses because the Kurds are going no where , they will carry on their terrorist acts until Turkey recognises that 15 or so million Kurds CAN have their language accepted , CAN criticize Turkey and CAN demand an acceptable level of identity recognition.
Here in Cyprus , until we put our past behind us , respect each other's concerns and fears and work together in nurturing a new generation free from hatred preconceived nonsense and above all discard those cancerous rugs that inflate "nationalistic " fervour amongst our people.

[Oracle]

OP i like you, if that is a photo of you, you are very beautiful too.

No it is not a photo of me... do not get ideas.


I for one do not expect you look like your avatar.

[Oracle]

Shah , as you know I do not subscribe to Oracle's views in fact I have been very critical of her views , at the same time I have been very critical of your views. Let me explain why .The Cyprus conflict occurred because the fanatics on both sides brainwashed their people with propaganda and lies in order for both to achieve their goals. You are referring to VILLAGES , in plural , of having been massacred buried alive , can you tell that your continual reference to such " events " mostly to be found on Turkish propaganda sites do anything but stir up emotions and sustain the levels of hatred ? Phoenix does precisely the opposite , you call her a racist , and I suppose You are not. Look mate , all that happen in Cyprus is a great tragedy and all that happened was as a direct result of the extremists and the motherland bullshitters , extreme views such as yours , Oracles , Zan's , Palimetoho ARE RESPONSIBLE .
You support wholeheartedly all that Turkey does , even today you are full of pride because the Turkish army entered Iraq to wipe out the Kurds ! The only thing that they will wipe is their arses because the Kurds are going no where , they will carry on their terrorist acts until Turkey recognises that 15 or so million Kurds CAN have their language accepted , CAN criticize Turkey and CAN demand an acceptable level of identity recognition.
Here in Cyprus , until we put our past behind us , respect each other's concerns and fears and work together in nurturing a new generation free from hatred preconceived nonsense and above all discard those cancerous rugs that inflate "nationalistic " fervour amongst our people.

Miltiades ... you tell him!

You understand my desire to blend and not have two languages, two cultures, two religions etc .... on small island like Cyprus.

Whatever next ...

[shahmaran]

Phoenix i love the way you change around the whole discussion and put me in your own shoes for the sake of argument, as effective as you might think it is, it is indeed VERY cheap. You have no clue about what i want, yes i want a solution, and no i don't want to live with people like you, but i take comfort in the fact that extreme racism such as yours is on the minority so I'm sure i would be happy with the other GC's who are normal human beings as opposed to emotional retards like yourself. Nice try tho

On the other hand ill be more than happy to contribute into whatever blending you want to talk about, but since the thread is called "Barbaric Bisection Backlash!" one would think that it is nothing but more racist bollocks from Phoenix, and essentially, it probably is. However i do love cooking indeed and if this is a positive step from you then I'm glad to see it since its a big change from your usual bigoted crap.

Miltiades, Turkey went in there to bring an end to this PKK shenanigans for once and all, they might succeed and they might not who knows, but they cant just sit around and watch these scumbags blow up places in the cities and ambush public transportation in the rural areas murdering innocent people regardless of their ethnicity, as far as i am concerned they are worthless dogs that hide in the caves waiting for the next target, they might be "freedom fighters" for some, and that's their choice, but i assure you not every Kurd thinks like you do, as i am very close to many Kurdish people. I have dedicated a whole thread for you in the Political section Miltiades have you taken any notice of it? I seriously suggest you do.

[shahmaran]

Shah , as you know I do not subscribe to Oracle's views in fact I have been very critical of her views , at the same time I have been very critical of your views. Let me explain why .The Cyprus conflict occurred because the fanatics on both sides brainwashed their people with propaganda and lies in order for both to achieve their goals. You are referring to VILLAGES , in plural , of having been massacred buried alive , can you tell that your continual reference to such " events " mostly to be found on Turkish propaganda sites do anything but stir up emotions and sustain the levels of hatred ? Phoenix does precisely the opposite , you call her a racist , and I suppose You are not. Look mate , all that happen in Cyprus is a great tragedy and all that happened was as a direct result of the extremists and the motherland bullshitters , extreme views such as yours , Oracles , Zan's , Palimetoho ARE RESPONSIBLE .
You support wholeheartedly all that Turkey does , even today you are full of pride because the Turkish army entered Iraq to wipe out the Kurds ! The only thing that they will wipe is their arses because the Kurds are going no where , they will carry on their terrorist acts until Turkey recognises that 15 or so million Kurds CAN have their language accepted , CAN criticize Turkey and CAN demand an acceptable level of identity recognition.
Here in Cyprus , until we put our past behind us , respect each other's concerns and fears and work together in nurturing a new generation free from hatred preconceived nonsense and above all discard those cancerous rugs that inflate "nationalistic " fervour amongst our people.

Miltiades ... you tell him!

You understand my desire to blend and not have two languages, two cultures, two religions etc .... on small island like Cyprus.

Whatever next ...

LOL!!

So i suppose you expect us to all speak Greek and be Greeks, do you?

Just when one thought there was hope, man you really are a rotten old hag, what was i thinking

[Oracle]

On the other hand ill be more than happy to contribute into whatever blending you want to talk about, but since the thread is called "Barbaric Bisection Backlash!" one would think that it is nothing but more racist bollocks from Phoenix, and essentially, it probably is. However i do love cooking indeed and if this is a positive step from you then I'm glad to see it since its a big change from your usual bigoted crap..

Well the Backlash may make you think we need to react against the division .....

[repulsewarrior]

OP i like you, if that is a photo of you, you are very beautiful too.

No it is not a photo of me... do not get ideas.


I for one do not expect you look like your avatar.

...no, i don't have a moustache.

Shah the Cyprus Problem is the living room and the terratas, it is for those who like to sit.

there is a kitchen in this forum and i invite you to join me there, cook at the soufla for a while, at least.