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Postby miltiades » Thu Feb 21, 2008 12:18 pm

DT. wrote:
michalis5354 wrote:
purdey wrote:Who is she ?


She represents the Communist Party in Greece .She gets an insignificant percentage of voters.


Aleka Papariga

The numero uno American hater in the West !!
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Postby alexISS » Fri Feb 22, 2008 10:29 am

Τη γλωσσοφάγατε τη γυναίκα ρε!

http://www.in.gr/news/article.asp?lngEn ... gDtrID=244

She's on her way out
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Postby miltiades » Fri Feb 22, 2008 10:35 am

With election day approaching fast , may I ask for the opinion of those comrades who consider that comrade Christofias will be the right man for the job and if so what message are we sending the USA and the West generally . Will for instance statues of Lenin , Stalin , Castro Che Guevara , Ho Chi Min and other great world leaders appear on our streets ?? Will the new government , if comrade Christofias is elected , be inviting the Russians by offering concessions on land etc. And why may I ask did the other parties offer their support to the communists , have they been promised cushy little numbers they could not resit , or did they out their commitment to the good of the nation decided that comrade Christofias would be the most likely to serve the interests of Cyprus. I use the title comrade since a quick vist on the AKEL web page left me in no doubt that this word is the honourable way to address their membership !!
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Postby raiseurfist » Fri Feb 22, 2008 3:31 pm

miltiades wrote:With election day approaching fast , may I ask for the opinion of those comrades who consider that comrade Christofias will be the right man for the job and if so what message are we sending the USA and the West generally . Will for instance statues of Lenin , Stalin , Castro Che Guevara , Ho Chi Min and other great world leaders appear on our streets ?? Will the new government , if comrade Christofias is elected , be inviting the Russians by offering concessions on land etc. And why may I ask did the other parties offer their support to the communists , have they been promised cushy little numbers they could not resit , or did they out their commitment to the good of the nation decided that comrade Christofias would be the most likely to serve the interests of Cyprus. I use the title comrade since a quick vist on the AKEL web page left me in no doubt that this word is the honourable way to address their membership !!


Are you one of the people who have been sending out those spam emails everywhere for the last 2 days?
I have received Photoshoped pictures of Makario's statue replaced with Lenins and a square in Lefkosia painted red like the Red Square. And a proclamation about why Kasoulides is "the best" with links on his official website.

If this is all that the Right has come up with to oppose Christofias then you are a disgrace of a party. Childish and based at nothing at all.

But I guess what would you expect from the people who tried to overthrow the elected president of the country and killed all those innocent people. :wink:
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Postby Daemon » Fri Feb 22, 2008 3:50 pm

Dead communistic bullshits are alone an ungraving of the dead past. AKEL politicians are trying to over pass that reality and they are not present their ideological past and this is good for them. But in the level of masses this bullshits will wake up the past. The situation is very dangerous and I agree what both sides at least in leadership level must try to over pass the past feelings. Bud unfortunately in the end, communism is a fascistic anachronistic conservative (like the Europeans say) DEAD ideology (fartology) and unfortunately this “ideology” is aggressive on its whole (history is above conscious is the main dogma of Marx, but I can also speak about history if can’t see how this bullshits lead Europe to the second middle ages and an ocean of blood) and it is expectable what there will be reactions that must be controlled if it is possible.
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Postby Daemon » Fri Feb 22, 2008 4:35 pm

As about the Makarios Lenin bullshit I have to say what Makarios did well at least in the communist issue, he never gave them a chance to stand up. He liked the idea to have them knee-deep on his legs and this was a nice policy to control the communistic danger. Makarios was fanatic anti-communist (he supported the X team of Grivas in the communist cleansing in Greece) and he also answered to Marx when he said what communism is the opium of the people. For example he arranged the armament of his own people (that are now in EDEK and DIKO) and he never thought to give them the chance to have their own paramilitary team. That’s why mostly EDEK people are accusing AKEL members what they didn’t fight against the coop. How they could fight when they didn’t have any guns because of Makarios?
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Postby raiseurfist » Fri Feb 22, 2008 5:28 pm

Daemon wrote:As about the Makarios Lenin bullshit I have to say what Makarios did well at least in the communist issue, he never gave them a chance to stand up. He liked the idea to have them knee-deep on his legs and this was a nice policy to control the communistic danger. Makarios was fanatic anti-communist (he supported the X team of Grivas in the communist cleansing in Greece) and he also answered to Marx when he said what communism is the opium of the people. For example he arranged the armament of his own people (that are now in EDEK and DIKO) and he never thought to give them the chance to have their own paramilitary team. That’s why mostly EDEK people are accusing AKEL members what they didn’t fight against the coop. How they could fight when they didn’t have any guns because of Makarios?


I dont disagree with what you said, (some of it anw) and I dont believe in communism either.
But I do believe that between the two, Christofias is the better candidate for the presidency.
I think I am smart enough to know that he will not create a communist state and that he will not paint town squares red.
All that propaganda can affect some people naive enough to believe it, or youngsters who can be influenced more easily (which is probably why they keep saying that kasoulides "appeals" more to younger generations)
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Postby miltiades » Fri Feb 22, 2008 5:56 pm

raiseurfist wrote:
miltiades wrote:With election day approaching fast , may I ask for the opinion of those comrades who consider that comrade Christofias will be the right man for the job and if so what message are we sending the USA and the West generally . Will for instance statues of Lenin , Stalin , Castro Che Guevara , Ho Chi Min and other great world leaders appear on our streets ?? Will the new government , if comrade Christofias is elected , be inviting the Russians by offering concessions on land etc. And why may I ask did the other parties offer their support to the communists , have they been promised cushy little numbers they could not resit , or did they out their commitment to the good of the nation decided that comrade Christofias would be the most likely to serve the interests of Cyprus. I use the title comrade since a quick vist on the AKEL web page left me in no doubt that this word is the honourable way to address their membership !!


Are you one of the people who have been sending out those spam emails everywhere for the last 2 days?
I have received Photoshoped pictures of Makario's statue replaced with Lenins and a square in Lefkosia painted red like the Red Square. And a proclamation about why Kasoulides is "the best" with links on his official website.

If this is all that the Right has come up with to oppose Christofias then you are a disgrace of a party. Childish and based at nothing at all.

But I guess what would you expect from the people who tried to overthrow the elected president of the country and killed all those innocent people. :wink:


My dear friend , I'm of NO PARTY !! I have never taken much notice of Cypriot politics , have maintained a neural stand , until faced with the prospect of my nation being made the laughing stock of Europe and the West by having a communist president. I have nothing against Christofias as a person , I would also add that AKEL has contributed a great deal to the working people of Cyprus. Where I differentiate is when it comes to the image presented overseas of Cyprus , and more so in the USA , Brittain and Europe and most certainly communist leadership .
Mark my words. If Christofias is elected on Sunday 19th of March , then the countdown to recognition under the disguise of a solution , will begin in earnest. Cyprus politics , as far as I'm concerned , its very much in an embryonic state. How many other nations I wonder have football teams supported by the left or the right , how many Cafenia around the world serve either the left or the right !!!
Kassoulides will present an image of a European outlook not one going back to Stalinist ideals.
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Postby Daemon » Fri Feb 22, 2008 6:11 pm

I think I am smart enough to know that he will not create a communist state and that he will not paint town squares red.
All that propaganda can affect some people naive enough to believe it, or youngsters who can be influenced more easily (which is probably why they keep saying that kasoulides "appeals" more to younger generations)


I didn’t say what he can do much in Europe except from continuing the anti European work of Papad.

If you think what you are smart enough to judge the people reacting by their emotions I can ensure you what you are reacting emotionally based in their emotions because there is not a single reasonable argument for the Christofias option. So basically you are also naïve and not so smart as you think.

DISY politicians like AKEL politicians are not following the emotions of the masses, they are just trying to control them and the argument you are using against Kassoulides is an emotionally based reaction and nothing more.
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Postby miltiades » Fri Feb 22, 2008 6:20 pm

raiseurfist wrote:
Daemon wrote:As about the Makarios Lenin bullshit I have to say what Makarios did well at least in the communist issue, he never gave them a chance to stand up. He liked the idea to have them knee-deep on his legs and this was a nice policy to control the communistic danger. Makarios was fanatic anti-communist (he supported the X team of Grivas in the communist cleansing in Greece) and he also answered to Marx when he said what communism is the opium of the people. For example he arranged the armament of his own people (that are now in EDEK and DIKO) and he never thought to give them the chance to have their own paramilitary team. That’s why mostly EDEK people are accusing AKEL members what they didn’t fight against the coop. How they could fight when they didn’t have any guns because of Makarios?


I dont disagree with what you said, (some of it anw) and I dont believe in communism either.
But I do believe that between the two, Christofias is the better candidate for the presidency.
I think I am smart enough to know that he will not create a communist state and that he will not paint town squares red.
All that propaganda can affect some people naive enough to believe it, or youngsters who can be influenced more easily (which is probably why they keep saying that kasoulides "appeals" more to younger generations)


I do not for the life of me see how a communist president , a fully fledged anti American , Anti NATO and may I say anti West can be anything but an absolute disaster for Cyprus. Suggesting that " naive" people might be adversely influenced and reject Christofias is an absurd assertion and rather naive , wouldn't you agree ?
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