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[DT.]

Well there seems to be some sort of confusion amongst us Cyprus flag carrying individuals.

The message that comes out is
1)We consider ourselves hardline CYpriots who believe that there is one race on this island, Cypriots. Yet we support Tassos Papadopoulos who has rightly made it his struggle to protect Cypriot Hellenism

2) Our party DEKO had nothing but Greek flags waving yesturday, Yet we hate Hellenic symbols and despise the DISY supporters who carry them.

3) We believe in democracy yet we despise DISY for voting for the Annan plan and we will never forgive these traitors.

4) We accusse the TC's of always bringing up 1963 like a broken record yet we despise DISY because of EOKA B and because they might do it again.

5) The archbishop supports Tassos in the first round and we stay silent, yet ridicule him when he supports Kasoulides in the 2nd round.

6) We consider Tassos ideals as heroic in defense of this country and our identity on this island, yet we now consider the teaching of our religion at school a fascist requirement.

COnfused? We all are.

No DT, you are not confused! You are just caught into a phase of having and trying to defend the indefensible! Your logic tells you one thing, but you "duty" towards the polarising rhetoric and practices of your affiliated party, tells you another! It is called cognitive dissonance! I wish you soon get back to your more sensible and genuine ideas and views!

I'll leave this here for now if we leave the hypocrisy and attacks on other decent posters aside.

[Oracle]

Michalis, Che Guevara's image is a universal and international symbol of leftists, socialists and communists, for decades now! It symbolizes internationalism, revolutionism and the solidarity between and among the oppressed classes by totalitarian regimes, across country boarders! It is used by some leftists in Cyprus under this context, both by GCs and TCs alike! It is not used under any different context, and it doesn't mean anything in our case, since we live in a near perfect welfare democracy!

Now, if Miltiades has real (and not fabricated) evidence that he was a murderer, as he describes him, I do not know about it, nor those people carrying his banners last night do know about such an aspect of Che's life! Neither of course they celebrate him because they know he was a cold blood executionist (if he was,) but only because they regard him as a symbol of international solidarity among oppressed classes!

Yes but we are a members of Europe and not Soviet Union so our direction should be clear.

We do noty want hypocricy . Members of Europe and adopting Communism principles or Cypriots Identity behing the Greek National Anthem. This is Hypocricy.

We have not "adopted" Communist principles ... we have elected a President with Communist principles because we decided he was the best man to lead us out of the mire of Turks using those guiding principles.

We can be members of Europe and have a Communist President ... again that does not make us hypocrites ... just free to choose our leader.

The Greek National Anthem is also the Cypriot National Anthem ..... so where is the hypocrisy?

Like all Anthems it's just a rousing jingle ... it's high time we stopped mixing tunes with politics anyway ....

For the sake of accuracy, the Greek national anthem is not constitutionally or statutory adopted as the national anthem of Cyprus! Unlike the flag, there has never been an institutionally adopted anthem for the country, nor did the London-Zurich agreements or the 1960 constitution provided for one! During the initial 3 years of the Republic (1960-63) a 5 second un-constructed fanfare used to be played by the police philharmonic, when foreign leaders would visit Cyprus and a need for a national anthem would emerge! After the events 1963/64, the RoC remained in the hands of the GC community, and the Greek national anthem begun to be played instead, rather arbitrarily in my opinion, just like so many other things done on this basis by both communities!

What is important to know is that, to the best of my knowledge, the Greek national anthem for Cyprus is not an institutionalized one by any statutory enactment or law!

So if Cyprus does not have an Official National Anthem ..... it is progressive ... since Anthems are outdated battle tunes that have no place in modern International politics.

Again Cyprus is the protagonist ... with a left-wing President and no National Anthem .....

[Get Real!]

GET REAL your Papadopoulos Clown came 3rd We kicked him OUT for good!! he he he

Bravo...

[RAFAELLA]

Unfortunately we have a communist president.
Kala na pathoume, lene oti kathe laos ehei ton igeti pou tou aksizei. To 47% omos ti fteei?

Feel free to go live in Greece and wrap yourselves up with her flag until you reach boiling point.

I have no problem wraping my self up with Gr flag unlike some who get pimples only by seeing it.
Afterall we should be proud of this flag as many people, Grs & Cts, gave their lives for it, therefore, we are too little to talk about this flag like it's a piece of cloth.

I have two persons/heroes in my family who died while fighting for this flag and I have my own sensitivities regarding the Gr flag.
Your sarcastic comments though, are too low and they cannot touch them.
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Oso gia ta ivristika sou sxolia Kifeas ...eipa arxika oti den th'asxoliomouna, den th'apantousa all allaksa gnomi.

Kai kathe "igetis" exei tous opadous pou tou aksizoun!
"To 47% omos ti fteei," rota i Rafaella! Na kanete praksikopima tote Rafaella, opos kapoioi alloi to 1974, oi opoioi den eftean se typote pou ithelan enosi, kai i pleiopsifia pou evgaze proedro ton Makario, den ithele! Palia sas techni koskino!

Ti iponoeis Kifeas??? Sou apagorevo na me sindeeis me to praksikopima. Oute ego, oute kai i oikogenia mou eihe opoiadipote sxesi. Gi'afto t'apothimena sou misi na ta vgaleis allou ...st'aggouria p.x. ...leo tora, mias kai t'anafereis pio kato.

Etsi einai i Demokratia, Rafaellitsa! Me tin idia logiki, To 76% tou kosmou psifise "OXI" sto dimopsifisma, to 24% ti fteei pou den pire ta xorafia kai tis periousies tou sto Varosi kai stin Morfou (oses tha epernan?)

Kifeas to onoma mou einai Rafaella.

Kai ego imoun enantion tou AP asxetos an eperna piso tis periousies mou sto Varosi alla den skeftika egoistika, skeftika to kalo tis patridas mou.
Eida omos kapoious san ki'esena to poso sevastikan ekeino to 24% pou ipostirikse to sxedio, kai prodotes tous eipan.
...akoma kai meta apo 4 hronia tous zitoun n'apologithoun gia tin tote apofasi tous ...etsi einai i Demokratia!

Epetrepse mou na diafoniso meganecc. O Tornaritis, proedros tis epitropis paidias sti vouli, dilose oti to AKEL ethese thema na katargithei to mathina ton thiskeftikon kai na ginei proeretiko. Kati pou ta alla kommata profanos den simfonisan.
Prin liges meres sto SIGMA se mia ekpompi otan o Tornaritis to anafere, i Antroula Giourof tis haravgis ohi mono den to diepsevse alla to iperaspistike.

Ti tha ginei re file, that ksehasoume kai ta pistevo mas kai tha proskinoume to Che?!

Rafaellitsa, mporeis na mou peis se parakalo poios sou eipe na proskinas ton Che, kai ti aggouri mpenei ston K*lo sou ean ginei proeretiko to mathima ton thriskeftikon sta scholia? Echei olos o plithismos mias xoras, oloi i polites, tin idia thriskia? Eina to dikaioma stin aneksithriskia, ena anthropino dikaioma, i den einai? Ean enas kyprios politis (forologoumenos malista) einai Boudistis, tha tou kanoume mathima Boudistikis thriskias, i den einai oloi oi polites isoi metaksi tous? Kai ean einai atheos, den einai dikaioma tou?

Poios einai poio fasistas Rafaellitsa, aytos pou sou leei to mathima ton thriskeytikon (i didaskalia mias sikgekrimenis thriskias ennoeitai) na einai proeretiko, kai ean theleis mporeis na to parakolouthisis; i esy pou theleis na epivaleis stous allous (se olous) tin didaskalia tis dikis sou thriskias?

Den ksero, alla sto diko mou mou myalo, esy eise pou ozeis fasistario -apo 1,000 milia malista!

Anepideuktos mathiseos Kifeas. To onoma mou einai Rafaella

Kata t'alla mou kaneis kai mathimata Demokratias tromara sou!
Afti einai i Demokratia sou Kifeas? Na me vrizeis giati den simfoneis me tin diki mou apopsi? Afto einai to epipedo sou... Demokrati? Bravo!
Eite sou aresei eite ohi ego afto pistevo. Tha mporouses eugenika kai politismena na doseis ti diki sou apopsi xoris na me vrizeis apo ti stigmi malista pou den sou edosa to paramikro dikaioma.

... gia na milas gia aggouria omos, isos kati na ksereis esi.

Ego den eipa oti mpenei aggouri ston k*lo tis Rafaellas! Ego rotisa ti aggouri mpenei, ean mpenei! Den eipa oti mpenei! Ayti mallon aisthanetai oti mpenei, giayto kai ego aplos rotisa ean einai tis Chlorakas i tis Zodhias!

H dialeksi sou peri aggourion irthe k'edese Kifeas.

S'efharisto gia ta kala sou logia.

[RAFAELLA]

Get Real, "ti aggouri mpenei ston k*lo sou" einai idiomatiki ekfrasi! Den einai vrisia!

...kai otan kapoios apeuthinthei se kontino i siggeniko sou atomo, fili, gynaika, adelfi etc, me tin pio pano xidaia frasi, apla eksigise tis oti den einai vrisia, einai ...idiomatiki ekfrasi!

[purdey]

Can we keep it in English please...I can speak the lingo,but my reading is a little slow.

[michalis5354]

GET REAL your Papadopoulos Clown came 3rd We kicked him OUT for good!! he he he

Bravo...

At least we agree on this.

Rafaella they are Loosers . This is the language of the loosers. Just leave them alone to kiss some Turkish Asshole.

[Get Real!]

GET REAL your Papadopoulos Clown came 3rd We kicked him OUT for good!! he he he

Bravo...

At least we agree on this.

Yeah, but don't forget to say hi to the CCCP...

Rafaella they are Loosers . This is the language of the loosers. Just leave them alone to kiss some Turkish Asshole.

For crying out loud, why must arses be a part of this stupid thread?

[michalis5354]

Apologise to the lady for the language. Do you speak to your wife like this ?

When you loose the argument you insult very easy...This thread can be locked!

[Kifeas]

Get Real, "ti aggouri mpenei ston k*lo sou" einai idiomatiki ekfrasi! Den einai vrisia!

...kai otan kapoios apeuthinthei se kontino i siggeniko sou atomo, fili, gynaika, adelfi etc, me tin pio pano xidaia frasi, apla eksigise tis oti den einai vrisia, einai ...idiomatiki ekfrasi!

Rafaella, apo ti stigmi pou esy kai oi ideologika omoioi sou vrisate kai synechizete na vrizete ton idio ton Christo kai tin pisti mas, me to na amfisvitate ayto poy eipe oti "ostis thelei opiso mou elthei," kai na ironeveste kai na prospathite na ksegelasete ton kosmo na min psifisi kapoion o opoios akolouthontas to didagma tou Christou eipe oti to mathima ton thriskeytikon prepei na einai proeretiko, echo kai ego dikaioma na sas vrizo oso thelo! Otan vrizete tin thriskia mas, tote aksizete kathe ivris enantion sas!