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Postby michalis5354 » Wed Feb 20, 2008 12:41 am

Thank you Miltiades lets hope we take the right steps at the right time and make the unexpected A Win Win situation when neither side will feel as a looser and Cyprus wins as a whole.
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Postby Piratis » Wed Feb 20, 2008 2:58 am

The "idelogy" of dividing people along ethnic lines and disproportionately sharing power between them in order to benefit one on the loss of another, is an "idiology" that died with the collapse of Apartheid in South Africa.

All Cypriots, Greek Cypriots, Turkish Cypriots, Armenian Cypriots, Maronite Cypriots, Latin Cypriots, and every other Cypriot citizen should be equal to each other, one person one vote, without racist or other discriminations.
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Postby Daemon » Wed Feb 20, 2008 4:42 am

Piratis you and your monkey president have lost, try at least for the first time in your life to make your dead brains work, this is not an ideology, this is reality and the federation solution does not dividing people where many countries in Europe had develop federations to bring people close and not of course divide them. It is far from ridiculous to consider a federation in a confederation (Europe) as a division of people.

Reality sucks but we have to live in it because if we don’t and if we are trying to fuck her, she fucks us. And the pain will be bigger and bigger every time she strikes back (the next pain after your lost in the elections will be when you will realize what you have voted a eurocommunist :lol: ).
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Re: Thank You to the GC People

Postby Viewpoint » Wed Feb 20, 2008 9:08 am

Oracle wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:Thank you to the GC people is in order for seeing that papadop was not the person to find a solution, well done. Lets hope your new leader will desire a solution enough to compromise and negotiate a the best solution for all. We all need to understand the other sides concerns allowing for the ideology of 2 equal communities sharing 1 country.


You've changed your tune!

I thought you were begging the GCs to keep him in power, because you were happy with the "solution" you currently have.

It's an ill wind that blows no good .... :roll:


With Papdop in office all I could do was support partition as GCs appeared to be happy with their choice and the no contact no solution politics he promoted was what they wanted as Piratis and many other expressed on this forum.

His loss and the silencing of many GC despots has given us hope that maybe the BBF solution we said yes to in an amended shape will be acceptable to GCs, this is the compromise we expect and hope for, maybe the GC people have spoken in this direction by voting for an alternative leader that will show vision and a desire to compromise in finding a solution that will benefit all the people of this beautiful island. The GC perspective has always been BBF now is the time to put your money where your mouth is and show the other side that you mean what you say and it was not just the lip service we believe it is.
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Postby Viewpoint » Wed Feb 20, 2008 9:10 am

michalis5354 wrote:The Turkish Cypriot position was a result of Papad policies who has ignored them for 5 years refusing to meet the TC leader to discuss future prospects so he left them at the hands of Turkey . I can understand why tTCs adopted partition as the only viable solution.

The key to any settlement is to win the TC community and to make them a part of Cyprus not an outsider. Only at that time TCs will force Turkey to go home and Turkey realise there is no reason to be on the island.There are high chances for that to happen If we adopt the right strategy.

All you need to do is to put yourself on their shoes like what Birkibrisli did many times in the past.

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Great post michalis, this type of post at least gives us confidence that there are people like you out there and contributes to starting to trust one another.
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Postby michalis5354 » Wed Feb 20, 2008 9:23 am

Piratis wrote:The "idelogy" of dividing people along ethnic lines and disproportionately sharing power between them in order to benefit one on the loss of another, is an "idiology" that died with the collapse of Apartheid in South Africa.

All Cypriots, Greek Cypriots, Turkish Cypriots, Armenian Cypriots, Maronite Cypriots, Latin Cypriots, and every other Cypriot citizen should be equal to each other, one person one vote, without racist or other discriminations.


So I can assume that you do not recognise the ROC Zurich aggreements as these do not fit in your philosophy. I am not suprised that the extremist views all have been accomodated at Papadopoulos group and still accuse DUSI that has undermined the Republic in 1960s. Papadopoulos authoritarian regime is over he came 3rd People have realised what a hypocrite selfish Leader he was and they kicked him OUT for ever as there is no chance at his age to come back .

You congradulate Birkibrisli on his approach but you are not willing to do the same acknolwedging the TC rights based on the Zurich agreements.
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Re: Thank You to the GC People

Postby zan » Wed Feb 20, 2008 9:37 am

Viewpoint wrote:Thank you to the GC people is in order for seeing that papadop was not the person to find a solution, well done. Lets hope your new leader will desire a solution enough to compromise and negotiate a the best solution for all. We all need to understand the other sides concerns allowing for the ideology of 2 equal communities sharing 1 country.


Bravo VP...Should have done this myself......Bravo to the right people who voted for the right reasons.
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Re: Thank You to the GC People

Postby Murataga » Wed Feb 20, 2008 10:27 am

zan wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:Thank you to the GC people is in order for seeing that papadop was not the person to find a solution, well done. Lets hope your new leader will desire a solution enough to compromise and negotiate a the best solution for all. We all need to understand the other sides concerns allowing for the ideology of 2 equal communities sharing 1 country.


Bravo VP...Should have done this myself......Bravo to the right people who voted for the right reasons.


The GCs have never accepted us as political equals by heart. And perhaps more importantly, given the zenith of their fortune built on what they have usurped from us over the years, they have absolutely no major incentive to accept us as political equals in any forseeable future.

Papadopulos, Klerides, Makarios, Kassoulides or whatever crook you like... it won`t matter. The bottom line is that unless we relinquish our rights on this island as ONE of the TWO communities, unless we accept to put our safety and existence in jeopardy, unless we give in to the systematic efforts of Hellenizing this island, the GCs, as they have repeatedly done in the past and continually do so in the present, will implement any and all unethical, criminal and inhumane means necessary for us to come to their terms.

The good news is that the tide has taken a notable turn in our favor. The outcome of this election is a testimony that the GC criminal political initiative has lost significant blood and the GC community wants something to be done about it. The acknowledgement of the TC existence and rights on the island by the third parties, especially the EU member countries, has never been so pronounced. This has panicked the GC community.

We are moving forward; slowly but steadily.
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Re: Thank You to the GC People

Postby DT. » Wed Feb 20, 2008 10:31 am

Murataga wrote:
zan wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:Thank you to the GC people is in order for seeing that papadop was not the person to find a solution, well done. Lets hope your new leader will desire a solution enough to compromise and negotiate a the best solution for all. We all need to understand the other sides concerns allowing for the ideology of 2 equal communities sharing 1 country.


Bravo VP...Should have done this myself......Bravo to the right people who voted for the right reasons.


The GCs have never accepted us as political equals by heart. And perhaps more importantly, given the zenith of their fortune built on what they have usurped from us over the years, they have absolutely no major incentive to accept us as political equals in any forseeable future.

Papadopulos, Klerides, Makarios, Kassoulides or whatever crook you like... it won`t matter. The bottom line is that unless we relinquish our rights on this island as ONE of the TWO communities, unless we accept to put our safety and existence in jeopardy, unless we give in to the systematic efforts of Hellenizing this island, the GCs, as they have repeatedly done in the past and continually do so in the present, will implement any and all unethical, criminal and inhumane means necessary for us to come to their terms.

The good news is that the tide has taken a notable turn in our favor. The outcome of this election is a testimony that the GC criminal political initiative has lost significant blood and the GC community wants something to be done about it. The acknowledgement of the TC existence and rights on the island by the third parties, especially the EU member countries, has never been so pronounced. This has panicked the GC community.

We are moving forward; slowly but steadily.


nothng like a Turkish fanatic to come and unite warring Gc's during an election. :lol:
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Re: Thank You to the GC People

Postby miltiades » Wed Feb 20, 2008 10:35 am

Murataga wrote:
zan wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:Thank you to the GC people is in order for seeing that papadop was not the person to find a solution, well done. Lets hope your new leader will desire a solution enough to compromise and negotiate a the best solution for all. We all need to understand the other sides concerns allowing for the ideology of 2 equal communities sharing 1 country.


Bravo VP...Should have done this myself......Bravo to the right people who voted for the right reasons.


The GCs have never accepted us as political equals by heart. And perhaps more importantly, given the zenith of their fortune built on what they have usurped from us over the years, they have absolutely no major incentive to accept us as political equals in any forseeable future.

Papadopulos, Klerides, Makarios, Kassoulides or whatever crook you like... it won`t matter. The bottom line is that unless we relinquish our rights on this island as ONE of the TWO communities, unless we accept to put our safety and existence in jeopardy, unless we give in to the systematic efforts of Hellenizing this island, the GCs, as they have repeatedly done in the past and continually do so in the present, will implement any and all unethical, criminal and inhumane means necessary for us to come to their terms.

The good news is that the tide has taken a notable turn in our favor. The outcome of this election is a testimony that the GC criminal political initiative has lost significant blood and the GC community wants something to be done about it. The acknowledgement of the TC existence and rights on the island by the third parties, especially the EU member countries, has never been so pronounced. This has panicked the GC community.

We are moving forward; slowly but steadily.

And for as long as there people like on both sides , the solution to the Cyprob will be that much harder. !!!!
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