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[Piratis]

but the fact was there WAS a border and a restrivtion on thier movement.

There is no border. Just people with guns, tanks and iron bars that are ready to kill in order to stop innocent people from going home.

[metecyp]

There is no border. Just people with guns, tanks and iron bars that are ready to kill in order to stop innocent people from going home.

IF you don't accept the realities, however unfair and cruel they might be, then you might be confronted with a bigger and more tragic reality like that guy who tried to pull down the TRNC flag. Your imagination and realities need to meet somewhere and that's what a solution is all about but until that happens, you'll be confronted with realities, sooner or later.

[Viewpoint]

-mikkie2-

Instead of taunting people in this thread why don't you go to the courts yourself and look through the case histories AND FIND OUT YOURSELF if it is so important to you. There is no secrecy about it. Just get off your ass and find out yourself rather than asking people here that have no involvement in this.

So your viewpoint is it doesnt concern me I dont need to know, talk about burying your head in the sand, what if the boy was your relative??? Which courts should I go to ??? yours??? do you really think that would happen. Every GC seems to be struggling with this issue, maybe is a feeling of guilt that you seem to be so complacent and unconcerned that this disgusting murder should not be discussed or brought out into the open for fear of the true facts being known.
Does anyone know what happen to this guy, is he in prison, mental hostpital or free to roam the streets?????

[MicAtCyp]

That to me is a cop out. The killers of my uncle are known but as you say those that know are not saying anything. They were known then and they are known now.

So if they are known who are they?The TC police of those times had absolutely no information? What do they know? Or perhaps they only know who killed the son of Kyriakides and his 3 friends the previous day?

Just as the killers of my uncle were recent in 63 and where known to many and yet were free then to move around and boast about it then and now.

If they were known and if they were boasting around then surely some TCs who knew better Greek than us, like Uzan who lived in Famagusta should have learned something. What did they hear?
In contrast with what you said we do have the names of ALL those who killed Solomou. None of the TC killers dared so far to step to the free areas. Does that tell you something?The rest of the killers are settlers.And those who gave us the names are not GCs but TCs! We worked to find out those names Erol! We did not wait for God to step down and find them for us! And we do not expect the pseudo to ever take them to trial. When we will have the chance (even after 40 years) we will do it ourselves. What did your community do for the death of your uncle Erol?

I just do not beleieve that. Even if there were photographic evidence of who his killers were I do not think the RoC would take action to prosecute these men. They never took any action before and the reason was never 'lack of evidence' as far as I am concerned.

Erol you are not talking seriously are you?Lets suppose the RoC would not prosecute them, how about filing a case youself.How about going to the ECHR? Really I think you are joking!

The current mentaility of the RoC is that they still see no need to seek and prosecute GC barbarian murders of TC.

Again you are talking for the events dating 40 years back.If you think it is so easy why don't you do it yourselves?If you think RoC is not willing to proceed (which may well be true for various reason) why don't you do it yourselves? Don't you have lawyers who can handle it,don't you have testimonies, anyone denied you a fair trial?

You really think we have proportionaly more 'barbaric' people than the south has or anywhere else has? You have your 'Nick the Greeks' and the fathers that have indoctinated them in hatred and (an expressed) desire to kill in the name of thier 'cause' and we have ours. Are you really convinced we have more? I am not.

The facts speak for themselves Erol.Did you see such massive barbarocity expressed today from the GCs? If yes show it to me. Furthermore do we have an active group with massive membership called grey wolves? Is the president himself the founder of that group? As for NickTheGreek I suggest you have a look at Actanews to see many TC images of his. I am not talking for expats most of which live in the previous century together with their passions. I am talking for people currently living in Cyprus.

PS. Do you know that the man who collected the poor villagers at Tohni is still alive, he is called Andronicou, his house is at the entrance of Tohni and many TCs recognised him after the opening of the gates?Do you know he hides in his house everytime he sees TCs in the village? What did your community do Erol against this man who is a key for the massacre of 89(?) TC villagers 30 years ago? You expect God to step down and do it for you?Do you expect the RoC to arrest him without a single testimony from your eye witnesses?

[MicAtCyp]

Is he free to roam the streets?

He is free roaming the streets

[-mikkie2-]

Just incase nobody has heard, the 'Limassol murderer' has been convicted to 14 years in prison and he will be subject to medical supervision thereafter due to his mental condition. I hope that shows that justice is being served on the person that did this, irrespective of their ethnicity.

[Saint Jimmy]

It would be quite interesting to see what Viewpoint has to say about this.

[MicAtCyp]

When he killed the child said:
I am the General of Milosevich and I fight for Messologi.

Today when the judge asked him to apologise he said:
A Persian got in my body and did it to cause war between Turkey and Iran

After he got his 14 year imprisonment today (21 years in RoC= life imprisonment) he told the journalists:

Those who should pay are the unfaithful who fought Mohamed at Afganistan

His mother said she is deeply sorry and expressed her condolenses once again to the parents.She said her son is sick and she is certain he will commit suicide in prison...

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i hope this clarifies the suspicion from our friend Viewpoint that we deliberately want to hide what we know.The fact is I heard it tonight at the 8.30 news....

[MicAtCyp]

Mikkie,

I did not hear anything about medical treatment. On the contrary I heard he will serve his sentense in the central prisons.
All I heard is he was not sentense for life due to his medical condition.
Any references to your information?

[Bananiot]

I can hear a sigh of relief by some people, just because a sick person was put away for 14 years. Point taken, proof is at hand! Everything to win precious points.