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Postby Get Real! » Tue Feb 19, 2008 3:54 pm

michalis5354 wrote:People will accepet or reject any plan proposed on a referendum so for what all this panic and fear?

That's based on the assumption that you will be offered a referendum but if Clerides' Annan Plan is anything to go by you won't be getting one.

Are the people idiots who need someone to tell them what to vote and what not to vote?

They're actually BEYOND idiots unfortunately, and Sunday's results are testament of that.
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Postby RAFAELLA » Tue Feb 19, 2008 3:59 pm

Get Real! wrote: Cyprus has always had a surplus of fools who never learn from the past… that is a well known fact. DISY do a fine job of insulting themselves… all you had to do was observe Sunday’s celebrations where not a single RoC flag was hoisted. What a disgrace!

....so we are fools that never learn from the past. Past is past and we all look forward to better days with a new president with fresh ideas.
We are sick of chasing the ghosts of the past. This horrible habit we have of always bringing the past in front of us should end. Can we change anything? No. What's more importand is the future and what can we do about it.
Regarding the GR flag I have nothing against it BUT since we are an indepentant state with our own flag this flag should be used. ...and I do not understand why it's insulting and a disgrace to hold the GR flag. What do you have against it? From all I know though if you were visiting DISY offices on Sunday night you could see GR, CY and EU flags.

Get Real! wrote: Pappadopoulos INHERITED Clerides’ treasonous scheme but managed to save the Republic from certain death.

Yes, call Clerides a traitor now! ...that's what's left from you to say.
I said it before. Pap INHERITED AP 3 which TR was against. Pap incapable policies led us to AP 5.

Get Real! wrote: If Clerides’ Anglo-American collaboration in the form of the Annan Plan is not enough evidence for you then I don’t know what is.

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Postby michalis5354 » Tue Feb 19, 2008 4:06 pm

Something that need to be said . When Papadopoulos was referring to the GCs as the Hellenism of Cyprus was not a problem but now they got disturbed since they saw few Greek Flags on a square. Should I judge anyone on what he wears and make assumptions without listening what he has to say?
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Postby Get Real! » Tue Feb 19, 2008 4:22 pm

RAFAELLA wrote:Regarding the GR flag I have nothing against it BUT since we are an indepentant state with our own flag this flag should be used. ...and I do not understand why it's insulting and a disgrace to hold the GR flag. What do you have against it? From all I know though if you were visiting DISY offices on Sunday night you could see GR, CY and EU flags.

Fortunately, video cameras enabled us all to see what was going on without being there. The Greek flag is NOT my flag and never has been.

Yes, call Clerides a traitor now! ...that's what's left from you to say.
I said it before. Pap INHERITED AP 3 which TR was against. Pap incapable policies led us to AP 5.

Dissecting the Anan Plan into versions and assigning different authors/owners to it is utter bollocks given that the RoC had been COMMITTED to the AP by none other than the Clerides government and without the people's permission!!!
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Postby michalis5354 » Tue Feb 19, 2008 4:39 pm

The first speech of Papadopoulos prior to his election was that he will negotaiate based on the framework of the Annan Plan. This is what he speach was.

If you think that negotiations can start without taking into consideration the aggreements made in 1960 in Zurich then you are naive GR. We start from there and we negotaite to find a win win solution for both sides to end the conflict and the whole country to prosper not only the South.
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Postby RAFAELLA » Tue Feb 19, 2008 5:09 pm

Get Real! wrote:
Fortunately, video cameras enabled us all to see what was going on without being there. The Greek flag is NOT my flag and never has been.


Here's something for you Get Real:
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Get Real! wrote:
Dissecting the Anan Plan into versions and assigning different authors/owners to it is utter bollocks given that the RoC had been COMMITTED to the AP by none other than the Clerides government and without the people's permission!!!


I'm sorry, I can understand your bitterness that Pap went home ....but one of those reasons that led him back home was the fact that he was twisting facts just like you did with your above comment.
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michalis5354 wrote:The first speech of Papadopoulos prior to his election was that he will negotaiate based on the framework of the Annan Plan. This is what he speach was.


You are right Michalis.
He was saying he will negotiate a plan based on the framework of the Annan Plan, he was saying that with some changes the plan could be accepted bla bla bla ...and he just rejected it wihout negotiating it.
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Postby shahmaran » Tue Feb 19, 2008 5:54 pm

Wow, i can just about count 3 RoC flags amongst them all, the rest seems mainly Greek, interesting...

Turks out of Cyprus you say hey......? :roll:
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Postby Get Real! » Tue Feb 19, 2008 6:15 pm

shahmaran wrote:Wow, i can just about count 3 RoC flags amongst them all, the rest seems mainly Greek, interesting...

Turks out of Cyprus you say hey......? :roll:

It's just as well we only need one hand to count the RoC flags because we can use the other for this... Image
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Postby michalis5354 » Tue Feb 19, 2008 6:23 pm

shahmaran wrote:Wow, i can just about count 3 RoC flags amongst them all, the rest seems mainly Greek, interesting...

Turks out of Cyprus you say hey......? :roll:


At least he has a clear strategy and he does not move from one position to the next according to personal circumstances.

Akel with no greek flags had suported papadopoulos last elections and I did not see you celebrating?
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Postby DT. » Tue Feb 19, 2008 6:24 pm

Get Real! wrote:
michalis5354 wrote:
Are the people idiots who need someone to tell them what to vote and what not to vote?

They're actually BEYOND idiots unfortunately, and Sunday's results are testament of that.


Well then why don't we change the constitution anyway to make sure he stays for life. Apparently democracy means anyone who doesn't vote for my guy is an idiot.

What was the saying? "We won't tolerate intolerance"
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