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Kosovo's UDI Recognized by TRNC

How can we solve it? (keep it civilized)

Postby Oracle » Wed Feb 20, 2008 3:40 pm

I agree with shahmaran.

It's not my fault my ancestors came to Cyprus ... in the way that people did in those days.

I have grown up in the TRNC and it is my home... my little place of sanctuary on this mad planet. Sure we have more space than the GCs in the south, but we did not ask for so much. There are big, bad guys out there making the decisions.

If more people came to live with us, we can adapt. We want the opportunity to show people how nice we can be now that we are not fighting for survival.

ALERT: Experiment in Progress.
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Postby shahmaran » Wed Feb 20, 2008 3:56 pm

Oh but how dare you come here, and fight for survival?

Do you know how many thousands of years we have been living here for? This is where we evolved into human beings!

Who are you to ask for independence in MY island? Yes we did try to wipe you out a couple of times but those days are long gone, we are much more modern, educated and even a part of the EU now, so don't you worry, let us dominate you and it will all be good, i promise!

Plus this is what democracy is, don't you want to be democratic and modern like us? I mean just look at us?

To refuse, you must be either a thief or a racist!

Isn't that what "TRNC" stands for anyways? AHAHAHAH I'm such a funny little hoe!
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Postby Oracle » Wed Feb 20, 2008 3:57 pm

Actually ... I feel a bit shaky and odd now :shock: ...... think I'll just go and lie down for a while.......
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Postby DT. » Wed Feb 20, 2008 3:58 pm

shahmaran wrote:Oh but how dare you come here, and fight for survival?

Do you know how many thousands of years we have been living here for? This is where we evolved into human beings!

Who are you to ask for independence in MY island? Yes we did try to wipe you out a couple of times but those days are long gone, we are much more modern, educated and even a part of the EU now, so don't you worry, let us dominate you and it will all be good, i promise!

Plus this is what democracy is, don't you want to be democratic and modern like us? I mean just look at us?

To refuse, you must be either a thief or a racist!

Isn't that what "TRNC" stands for anyways? AHAHAHAH I'm such a funny little hoe!


Actually it would be excellent if you both swapped roles honestly and had a discussion that way. Wonder who would come out on top?
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Postby shahmaran » Wed Feb 20, 2008 4:02 pm

Now isnt that what being dialectical all about, hell we might even come up with a solution! :lol:
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Postby denizaksulu » Wed Feb 20, 2008 4:14 pm

shahmaran wrote:Now isnt that what being dialectical all about, hell we might even come up with a solution! :lol:



omg :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
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Postby paliometoxo » Wed Feb 20, 2008 6:13 pm

well the uk recognised them so TRNC/turkey stuck with uk as usual....
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Postby denizaksulu » Wed Feb 20, 2008 6:17 pm

paliometoxo wrote:well the uk recognised them so TRNC/turkey stuck with uk as usual....



Political expediency. I hate that phrase (or do I like it) :roll:
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Postby utu » Wed Feb 20, 2008 7:07 pm

denizaksulu wrote:
paliometoxo wrote:well the uk recognised them so TRNC/turkey stuck with uk as usual....



Political expediency. I hate that phrase (or do I like it) :roll:



The more accurate term is 'realpolitik'.
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Postby utu » Wed Feb 20, 2008 7:17 pm

observer wrote:Back to subject
ERCAKICA: TURKISH CYPRIOT SIDE COMMITTED TO ESTABLISHING PARTNERSHIP STATE ON THE BASIS OF POLITICAL EQUALITY OF THE TWO SIDES
The Presidential Spokesperson Hasan Ercakica has reiterated the Turkish Cypriot Side’s commitment to work towards the establishment of a new partnership state based on the political equality of the two peoples and the equal status of two constituent states.

The Presidential spokesman evaluated the results of the first round of President Elections on the Greek Cypriot Side as well as Kosovo’s declaration of independence during his weekly press briefing today.

Speaking to reporters, Mr. Ercakica said that the results of Sunday’s first round of ‘Presidential elections’ in the South indicated that the Greek Cypriot people were concerned by the consequences of rejecting the Annan Plan and had thus desired the election a new leader whose policies will be supported by the international community.

The Presidential spokesman expressed the hope that the stance adopted by the Greek Cypriot people will contribute to breaking the current deadlock in efforts aimed at finding a solution.

Stressing that the Turkish Cypriot Side will continue to work towards establishing a new partnership state based on the political equality of the two peoples and the equal status of two constituent states, Mr. Ercakica said that the Turkish Cypriot Side was committed to making the best out of all opportunities to that end.

Also touching upon the issue of Kosovo, the Presidential spokesperson said that there were important lessons to derive from the process which led to Kosovo’s independence.

“The most important lesson to be learnt from the Kosovo issue is that no people can be forced or compelled to live under the authority of another nation” he said, adding that this was why the Turkish Cypriot Side was going to continue to work towards finding a mutually acceptable solution to the Cyprus Problem.
Responding to questions as to whether the TRNC was considering to diplomatically recognize the breakaway state, Mr. Ercakica said that there was no such preparation to do so at this point in time.


Kosovo's UDI not recognized by TRNC
I don't think that it will keep them awake, but I try for accuracy of facts.


The thing is though is that when the head of state (in this case Talat) sends a message of congratulations to the head of state of another country that has procliamed a UDI, that is recognition of the fact that one country recognizes another country. The fact that the north's foreign ministry is saying otherwise means very little as diplomatic relationships are between GOVERNMENTS. The second that Talat sent that message, he is stating that his state recognized Kosovo as a state. The decision to which the north should establish diplomatic relations with Kosovo's government would rest with Soyer. This is a fine - but significant - distinction in international law.
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