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[SN]

Kosovo recognition is extremely important for Cyprus but far more important for Greece.

As an immediate neigbour Greece is trying to use this matter to get some leverage in the Macedonia name dispute(rumour has it)

For the time being Greece has yet to recognize it.Countries that are sceptical in Europe according to international press are :Greece,Bulgaria,Romania,Slovakia,Spain and off course Cyprus.

The only countries that made explicit statements of non-recognition are Cyprus,Spain and Slovakia.

Greece is not saying anything in hope we ll get some returns on the name issue...Therefore i believe Greece's recognision is near the corner.I see only Spain and Cyprus and possibly Slovakia in Europe in the long-run not recognizing Kosovo

[Nikitas]

Dont forget Bulgaria. It has a ten per cent Turkish minority and if the emerging principle in international relations is that all minorities are entitled to secede then Bulgaria will be next.

But those that promoted this principle forgot that one way round it in the future will be to expel (or worse) minorities before they get anywhere near asking for secession.

Now I want to see how the USA and Australia will deal with their ethnic indigenous minorities. Will they apply the principle that no minority should be forced to exist under others' sovereignty? OK I was making a joke, dont jump on me.

[Expatkiwi]

You GC folk better hope that Kosova does not reciprocate TRNC's recognition with recognition of their own. And before you spout off about the UN resolutions (apart from the fact that the resolutions only 'call upon' nations not to recognize TRNC) - these resolutions would not apply to Kosova as Kosova is NOT a UN member, and is not likely to be, given China's and Russia's veto power in the UNSC. Besides, your government's successful efforts at dividing the EU over a common stance regarding Kosova recognition is not likely to endear you to Pristina....

[Get Real!]

NICOSIA -- Cyprus has today officially condemned the ethnic Albanians' unilateral declaration of independence.

http://www.b92.net/eng/news/politics-ar ... v_id=47835

[phoenix]

Phoenix, you have totally misunderstood my "special" comment and have totally taken it out of context, go back and read it again, i don't even understand what you mean by it anymore, and you are quoting my own words.

On the other hand, you WERE preventing us from living here, in fact from living anywhere on here hence why they came, and they are related to us as well, we have been here for centuries so you have no right to ask us or them to leave on that basis, however if they are preventing peace on the island by being here that's another matter, but then that can also be argued in many "tit for tat" grounds, as you would understand.

So you have to drop your one eyed irrational dream that this island will one day be "freed from all Turkish influence" because that is never going to happen mate, we are part of this island just as much as you are and if we want to live together then this very mentality is the first thing we must get rid of, and then we can talk about the military presences.

Me and many other people have been telling you over and over again that you are the perfect example of the kind of mentality that gave way to the foreign powers to divide us. It is not Turkey or Greece or Britain or the US, its this discriminative way of thinking that they thrived on and manipulated very effectively.

They know that deep down we don't all think we are ALL Cypriots, specially not you!

The only reason Turkey managed to fight off the Imperial powers back in the day was because no matter who they were, Turk, Kurd, Pontus, Cerkez, Abaza, Turkmen whatever, they all fought for 1 united Turkey regardless of their ethnicity's and returned from the verge of multiple divisions.

No one managed to stop them, not even the Imperial and the Motherland suck ups amongst them.

OK I agree I have been referring back to your comment on Turkey's special "racist" treatment of GCs singling them out specifically for removal from the north ... enough times, that I think you won't make that mistake again.

BTW It's not true that I do not think TCs have a right to stay on Cyprus .....

But we can only set that into practice if you let go of Turkey ...

Also, I don't know which Imperialist wars you are discussing, when everyone was supposed to have rallied round to support Turkey.

[BirKibrisli]

Oh noooooooooooooooooo....We now have Oracle and Phoenix posting in the same thread!!!! This will be interesting...I think we should all stop and let the two of them have the floor...I wonder how long it will take before they start fighting with each other????

[denizaksulu]

Oh noooooooooooooooooo....We now have Oracle and Phoenix posting in the same thread!!!! This will be interesting...I think we should all stop and let the two of them have the floor...I wonder how long it will take before they start fighting with each other????

Is this what they call 'schizophrenic-paranoia'? Poor girl.

[shahmaran]

You claimed Turkey of being racist for sending the GC's to the South, i said they got the special treatment only because of what was happening (violence), not because "Turkey is racist". How can a state be racist? Specially Turkey which is made up of over 20 ethnic minorities and a huge amount of foreigners living there. Only the trouble makers get the "special" treatment. So i did not make a mistake, i was just stating the obvious, which part don't you get?

Why should we let go off Turkey when you don't let go off Greece?

You said it yourself, you cannot deny your ties with them, so neither can we. In order for Turkey to "go", first of all we need to be living together under a sustainable solution which requires MUCH LESS ethnic division, unless partition is what you want.

Which is also fine with me to be honest, its been going on for so long that most people just want A solution so they can get on with their lives.

If you don't know anything about Turkish history, and i presume you don't, then just forget about my analogy, i cant be bothered to go over it. The point was that foreigners tried to manipulate ethnic differences in order to divide and rule a collapsed empire, but the majority fought for a united state TOGETHER, which became to be Turkey.

[Oracle]

Oh noooooooooooooooooo....We now have Oracle and Phoenix posting in the same thread!!!! This will be interesting...I think we should all stop and let the two of them have the floor...I wonder how long it will take before they start fighting with each other????

Sorry Bir dear ... I was checking my UK account and reading Shahmaran's post referring to me as phoenix and I instinctively responded.

It won't happen again ....

Just Oracle .....(for now)

And yes I do fight with myself constantly

[Oracle]

You claimed Turkey of being racist for sending the GC's to the South, i said they got the special treatment .....

This is precisely why Turkey is racist.

They gave one group of people special treatment .... the GCs.

It does not matter your lame excuses for singling out one group of people (even Hitler would agree).


And from your earlier post:

...They didn't get rid of the Maronite's, and we have plenty of foreigners here, so what do you think is it that makes you so special?

Turkey systematically and specifically has made the GCs "special".

They picked on the GCs ... for whatever reason ... and singled them out for expulsion from northern Cyprus.

That is a perfect example of Turkish National Racism .......from the country that wants to join Europe.

Turkey has turned the north into the ...

Turkish Racist Nation of Cyprus