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[Piratis]

What we have to see during this week is who will adopt the position of Papadopoulos and become the next president of Cyprus.

Those that accused Papadopoulos until yesterday, saying "anybody but Papadopoulos" have now made the big U turn and are more than willing to share power with Papadopoulos and adopt most if not all of Papadopoulos positions.

I wonder why DISY and AKEL didn't make the "big step" they were talking about and agree that none of them would form a coalition with Papadopoulos?

Until yesterday it was about "saving Cyprus" from Papadopoulos, but now it is again about "communists" and "neoliberals", and both wanting their good friend Papadopoulos in their goverment.

I hope those that were fed with the foreign made, and locally adopted for election reasons, lie that supposedly Papadopoulos was an obstacle for a solution will finally wake up and stop reproducing the slogans of our enemies.

What I say above is mostly directly to DISY/Kasoulides and those of EDI, since actually AKEL and Christofias himself has a kept a somewhat reasonable standard during the campaign.

Cyprus has changed 5 presidents so far and now we are going for the 6th. The Cyprus problem all these years was not solved not because all of our presidents were somehow bad, but for the simple reason that Turkey wants partition and she has the power to enforce it. (and the Cypriot people are not willing to sign some partition capitulation agreement)

We will not act like some traitors did in the past, and we will support the next president of Cyprus, whomever that is, against Turkey which is the real enemy of our country.

[Oracle]

I agree ... any President that focuses on removing Turkey from Cyprus gets my complete support.

Above all, follow Papadopoulos' example, despite the fact that it may have led to his downfall, and abide by principles and not image. Cyprus is more important than an arrogant stance on making oneself look good in the short term.

The people of Cyprus are not stupid, they are not looking for quick solutions at the expense of the right long-term solution.

Before anyone jumps in with cheap shots at what some people stand to gain with the status quo ..... financial considerations do not even figure into the dynamics of what is being prescribed.

Only the Turks are gaining financially at the moment ... but we can even withstand that so long as Cyprus is re-unified and free from any Turkish influence ASAP.

[DT.]

What we have to see during this week is who will adopt the position of Papadopoulos and become the next president of Cyprus.

Those that accused Papadopoulos until yesterday, saying "anybody but Papadopoulos" have now made the big U turn and are more than willing to share power with Papadopoulos and adopt most if not all of Papadopoulos positions.

I wonder why DISY and AKEL didn't make the "big step" they were talking about and agree that none of them would form a coalition with Papadopoulos?

Until yesterday it was about "saving Cyprus" from Papadopoulos, but now it is again about "communists" and "neoliberals", and both wanting their good friend Papadopoulos in their goverment.

I hope those that were fed with the foreign made, and locally adopted for election reasons, lie that supposedly Papadopoulos was an obstacle for a solution will finally wake up and stop reproducing the slogans of our enemies.

What I say above is mostly directly to DISY/Kasoulides and those of EDI, since actually AKEL and Christofias himself has a kept a somewhat reasonable standard during the campaign.

Cyprus has changed 5 presidents so far and now we are going for the 6th. The Cyprus problem all these years was not solved not because all of our presidents were somehow bad, but for the simple reason that Turkey wants partition and she has the power to enforce it. (and the Cypriot people are not willing to sign some partition capitulation agreement)

We will not act like some traitors did in the past, and we will support the next president of Cyprus, whomever that is, against Turkey which is the real enemy of our country.

Pirati,

had papadopoulos reached the first round insteadof Kassoulides he would be making the same openings to the "traitors of DISY" who overnight would be remembered for everything they've ever done for their country.

Don't crticise the process, its been done in the same manner for the majority of our presidents.

[-mikkie2-]

"Only the Turks are gaining financially at the moment ... but we can even withstand that so long as Cyprus is re-unified and free from any Turkish influence ASAP"

With Turkey just 40 miles away and a sizeable minority of the population claiming Turkish heritage, there is absolutely no way you will have a re-united Cyprus free of Turkish influence. This is idealistic mumbo jumbo that has led us to where we are today.

What is needed is to be able to control this influence and not to let it run rampant over Cyrpus as it has done for the past 50 years. Every day without a solution erases our presence in the north of Cyprus and puts in danger the rest of Cyprus. If we can come to a compromise solution now, then at least there is the chance of forming a modern state within Europe that shows to the rest of Europe that Christians and Muslims can live together in peace. Waiting for the ideal conditions for the ideal solution will mean that all Cypriots suffer for many more years to come.

[Oracle]

"Only the Turks are gaining financially at the moment ... but we can even withstand that so long as Cyprus is re-unified and free from any Turkish influence ASAP"

With Turkey just 40 miles away and a sizeable minority of the population claiming Turkish heritage, there is absolutely no way you will have a re-united Cyprus free of Turkish influence. This is idealistic mumbo jumbo that has led us to where we are today.

What is needed is to be able to control this influence and not to let it run rampant over Cyrpus as it has done for the past 50 years. Every day without a solution erases our presence in the north of Cyprus and puts in danger the rest of Cyprus. If we can come to a compromise solution now, then at least there is the chance of forming a modern state within Europe that shows to the rest of Europe that Christians and Muslims can live together in peace. Waiting for the ideal conditions for the ideal solution will mean that all Cypriots suffer for many more years to come.

Cyprus is not a guinea pig for those still hankering after religious bigotries.

Religion does not figure into any solution ...

[Piratis]

What we have to see during this week is who will adopt the position of Papadopoulos and become the next president of Cyprus.

Those that accused Papadopoulos until yesterday, saying "anybody but Papadopoulos" have now made the big U turn and are more than willing to share power with Papadopoulos and adopt most if not all of Papadopoulos positions.

I wonder why DISY and AKEL didn't make the "big step" they were talking about and agree that none of them would form a coalition with Papadopoulos?

Until yesterday it was about "saving Cyprus" from Papadopoulos, but now it is again about "communists" and "neoliberals", and both wanting their good friend Papadopoulos in their goverment.

I hope those that were fed with the foreign made, and locally adopted for election reasons, lie that supposedly Papadopoulos was an obstacle for a solution will finally wake up and stop reproducing the slogans of our enemies.

What I say above is mostly directly to DISY/Kasoulides and those of EDI, since actually AKEL and Christofias himself has a kept a somewhat reasonable standard during the campaign.

Cyprus has changed 5 presidents so far and now we are going for the 6th. The Cyprus problem all these years was not solved not because all of our presidents were somehow bad, but for the simple reason that Turkey wants partition and she has the power to enforce it. (and the Cypriot people are not willing to sign some partition capitulation agreement)

We will not act like some traitors did in the past, and we will support the next president of Cyprus, whomever that is, against Turkey which is the real enemy of our country.

Pirati,

had papadopoulos reached the first round insteadof Kassoulides he would be making the same openings to the "traitors of DISY" who overnight would be remembered for everything they've ever done for their country.

Don't crticise the process, its been done in the same manner for the majority of our presidents.

DT, Papadopoulos never called anybody "traitor". He called "nainaikous" a specific group of people one day, and that was it I believe. What Papadopolos said, is simply the fact that somebody that has already accepted the AP, and therefore considers it good enough, will have neither the will nor the excuse to fight for something better.

Beyond this Papadopoulos was always very polite with both Kasoulides and Christofias. He never accused them of wanting to partition Cyprus, he never said that if they are elected Cyprus will be destroyed or any of the other nonsense that his opponents, and especially Kasoulides, were throwing at him, as if Papadopoulos was the enemy of Cyprus and not Turkey.

Perhaps Papdopoulos was careful because he knew he would have to form a coalition with somebody in the second round. However you have to admit that Kasoulides was not careful at all and he talked in a very arrogant and negative way towards Papadopoulos.

[shahmaran]

Neither does racism Phoenix.

[Oracle]

Neither does racism Phoenix.

Now teach that to those Turks that have ethnically cleansed 200,000 Greek Cypriots from their homes ....

[Raymanoff]

Piratis, do you have any idea on future developments on Cyprus issue?

[-mikkie2-]

"Cyprus is not a guinea pig for those still hankering after religious bigotries."

No, it is not, but unfortunately, we don't have the luxury to have what we want.

By all means, wait another 50 years to see an ideal solution to the Cyprus problem. Only by that time the solution will be a single ethnic Turkish island as opposed to one which is exclusively Greek!