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[shahmaran]

Neither does racism Phoenix.

Now teach that to those Turks that have ethnically cleansed 200,000 Greek Cypriots from their homes ....

LOL! Does that make any sense to you?

Specially coming from you!

They didn't get rid of the Maronite's, and we have plenty of foreigners here, so what do you think is it that makes you so special?

Attempted genocide springs to mind but than that's just me.

Exactly .....

Turkey has made us special ... by specifically picking on the ethnic Greek Cypriots to eradicate from the north. Such specific singling out of a group of people as Turkey has done to the GCs ...... is what most people would understand as racism ...

Any concomitant hate of the enemy that treats as in that way is not racism but an understandable reaction to having been victimised.

It is you who is still not clear on who is demonstrating racism to this day (Turkey) and who is the victim who hates the enemy.

Yes continue to ignore the actual point as usual, and i will continue to rub it in your face, no problem for me, but your evasiveness may come across to be nothing more than ignorance or stupidity to others.

[Oracle]

Neither does racism Phoenix.

Now teach that to those Turks that have ethnically cleansed 200,000 Greek Cypriots from their homes ....

LOL! Does that make any sense to you?

Specially coming from you!

They didn't get rid of the Maronite's, and we have plenty of foreigners here, so what do you think is it that makes you so special?

Attempted genocide springs to mind but than that's just me.

Exactly .....

Turkey has made us special ... by specifically picking on the ethnic Greek Cypriots to eradicate from the north. Such specific singling out of a group of people as Turkey has done to the GCs ...... is what most people would understand as racism ...

Any concomitant hate of the enemy that treats as in that way is not racism but an understandable reaction to having been victimised.

It is you who is still not clear on who is demonstrating racism to this day (Turkey) and who is the victim who hates the enemy.

Yes continue to ignore the actual point as usual, and i will continue to rub it in your face, no problem for me, but your evasiveness may come across to be nothing more than ignorance or stupidity to others.

Your "message" and fact, reality and reason do not fit in the same post!

Your "message" is so far from the truth, as we and the whole world know, that you remain a pitiful, bleating voice in the wilderness, stuck with one word that you have been condemned to carry like a millstone around your necks, hoping you can abandon it on to your nearest innocent neighbours.

Now, how about you address the reality that exists ... the ethnically cleansed ....... specifically of the "race" that Turks see as GC and worthy of special treatment!

[shahmaran]

Sure, we can just look at the events from 74 till today while ignoring everything that led us to it, which is about 20 or so years prior to the invasion.

This is your version of reality, which contradictory to what you say, not many people are on the same line as you are.

Everyone is talking about forgetting the past and focusing on the future, yet you have not even come to terms with what really went on in the past, let alone understanding what is going on today in order to focus in the future.

As far as you are concerned, we are the problem.

I understand the wrong doings of Turkey, I LIVE IN IT!

Yet i also do not forget their initial reason for being here, hence why i do not think that the entire Cyprus problem relies on the fact that we have Turkish troops here.

Its far from it!

THIS is exactly what you refuse or fail to acknowledge.

[Oracle]

Sure, we can just look at the events from 74 till today while ignoring everything that led us to it, which is about 20 or so years prior to the invasion.

This is your version of reality, which contradictory to what you say, not many people are on the same line as you are.

Everyone is talking about forgetting the past and focusing on the future, yet you have not even come to terms with what really went on in the past, let alone understanding what is going on today in order to focus in the future.

As far as you are concerned, we are the problem.

I understand the wrong doings of Turkey, I LIVE IN IT!

Yet i also do not forget their initial reason for being here, hence why i do not think that the entire Cyprus problem relies on the fact that we have Turkish troops here.

Its far from it!

THIS is exactly what you refuse or fail to acknowledge.

Well I have put the past aside for this post, have looked to future less, and have merely addressed the present day scenario ..... of the fact that every day, in every way, there are 200,000 + GCs that know they have been given "special" (your word) treatment by Turkey because they happened to be born GC, they have been racially selected ....... because Turkey wanted GCs out of northern Cyprus so that it could fulfil its political dream .... the nightmare scenario for the rest of us.

[cypezokyli]

What we have to see during this week is who will adopt the position of Papadopoulos and become the next president of Cyprus.

Those that accused Papadopoulos until yesterday, saying "anybody but Papadopoulos" have now made the big U turn and are more than willing to share power with Papadopoulos and adopt most if not all of Papadopoulos positions.

I wonder why DISY and AKEL didn't make the "big step" they were talking about and agree that none of them would form a coalition with Papadopoulos?

Until yesterday it was about "saving Cyprus" from Papadopoulos, but now it is again about "communists" and "neoliberals", and both wanting their good friend Papadopoulos in their goverment.

I hope those that were fed with the foreign made, and locally adopted for election reasons, lie that supposedly Papadopoulos was an obstacle for a solution will finally wake up and stop reproducing the slogans of our enemies.

What I say above is mostly directly to DISY/Kasoulides and those of EDI, since actually AKEL and Christofias himself has a kept a somewhat reasonable standard during the campaign.

Cyprus has changed 5 presidents so far and now we are going for the 6th. The Cyprus problem all these years was not solved not because all of our presidents were somehow bad, but for the simple reason that Turkey wants partition and she has the power to enforce it. (and the Cypriot people are not willing to sign some partition capitulation agreement)

We will not act like some traitors did in the past, and we will support the next president of Cyprus, whomever that is, against Turkey which is the real enemy of our country.

you are soooooo wrong!

our system makes the elected president practically a dictator.
after he is elected he needs to listen to noone.

just like tpap did, and clerides, and kyprianou

[Get Real!]

What we have to see during this week is who will adopt the position of Papadopoulos and become the next president of Cyprus.

Those that accused Papadopoulos until yesterday, saying "anybody but Papadopoulos" have now made the big U turn and are more than willing to share power with Papadopoulos and adopt most if not all of Papadopoulos positions.

I wonder why DISY and AKEL didn't make the "big step" they were talking about and agree that none of them would form a coalition with Papadopoulos?

Until yesterday it was about "saving Cyprus" from Papadopoulos, but now it is again about "communists" and "neoliberals", and both wanting their good friend Papadopoulos in their goverment.

I hope those that were fed with the foreign made, and locally adopted for election reasons, lie that supposedly Papadopoulos was an obstacle for a solution will finally wake up and stop reproducing the slogans of our enemies.

What I say above is mostly directly to DISY/Kasoulides and those of EDI, since actually AKEL and Christofias himself has a kept a somewhat reasonable standard during the campaign.

Cyprus has changed 5 presidents so far and now we are going for the 6th. The Cyprus problem all these years was not solved not because all of our presidents were somehow bad, but for the simple reason that Turkey wants partition and she has the power to enforce it. (and the Cypriot people are not willing to sign some partition capitulation agreement)

We will not act like some traitors did in the past, and we will support the next president of Cyprus, whomever that is, against Turkey which is the real enemy of our country.

you are soooooo wrong!

our system makes the elected president practically a dictator.
after he is elected he needs to listen to noone.

just like tpap did, and clerides, and kyprianou

Oh no! Just when I was getting convinced that everything was Tpap's fault along comes the German salami and blames the whole system!

[cypezokyli]

you are soooooo wrong!

our system makes the elected president practically a dictator.
after he is elected he needs to listen to noone.

just like tpap did, and clerides, and kyprianou

Oh no! Just when I was getting convinced that everything was Tpap's fault along comes the German salami and blames the whole system! [/quote]

1.
i dont blame the whole system.
i observe it.


2. noone ever claimed that it is tpaps fault that the system is the way it is. such conspiracy-way-of-thinking existed only the tpaps gang heads, and you know what the gcs did to them


3. tpap is responsible for our bad situation concerning the cyppro. how difficult is it to understand that ? !

[miltiades]

No matter what you say Purdey the Brits created the problem. They were supposed to be our guarantors yet they sat back and let Turkey invade. I guess they were guaranteeing that Turkey could take half the island. Britain got what they wanted their bases.

You say you helped the south grow. How's that then by making money of the suffering of the GC's after the war. Typical Brits use every situation to line your own pocket.

The Brits are still making things worse by buying GC land in the North. Well if there is a solution I hope they throw them to the sea. Buying cheap stolen land.

You do realise that Greece was the first to invade don't you

Yes Zan Greece bombed towns and military installations while dropping parachutists and also using the navy launced a full invasion on little old Cyprus !!!
Zan , what happened was this .Makarios stood up the the Greek junta and demanded the withdrawal of Greek mainland army officers. The mistake that Makarios made was to grossly under estimate the stupidity of the Greek junta , they couldn't invade a village defended by old women let alone invade Cyprus .

[miltiades]

And now we are in 2008.Let's erect banners in Cyprus proclaiming the Cyprus problem is all the doing of the British...

Purdley , the British along with Turkey and Greece signed the Zurich agreements and each became a guarantor of Cyprus's independence.
The British had a legal obligation to intervene , a parliamentary committee some years after the Turkish invasion established the fact that Britain failed in its legal obligations regarding Cyprus. Many in Cyprus see Brittain as the nation that bears more responsibility for the intercomunal strife and the subsequent Turkish invasion.Let us not forget that during the 1955-59 struggle by the G/Cs , the British used the T/Cs as auxiliary police against the majority of the people of Cyprus .
Everyone on this forum knows me as a Western world supporter through and through and pro British , this doesn't mean that I can not criticize the incompetent British Government that failed to see that by using a section of the Cypriot people against the other it was stoking up future conflict.
The other two nations , Greece and Turkey , I have called many times as the cancer that plagues Cyprus.

[zan]

No matter what you say Purdey the Brits created the problem. They were supposed to be our guarantors yet they sat back and let Turkey invade. I guess they were guaranteeing that Turkey could take half the island. Britain got what they wanted their bases.

You say you helped the south grow. How's that then by making money of the suffering of the GC's after the war. Typical Brits use every situation to line your own pocket.

The Brits are still making things worse by buying GC land in the North. Well if there is a solution I hope they throw them to the sea. Buying cheap stolen land.

You do realise that Greece was the first to invade don't you

Yes Zan Greece bombed towns and military installations while dropping parachutists and also using the navy launced a full invasion on little old Cyprus !!!
Zan , what happened was this .Makarios stood up the the Greek junta and demanded the withdrawal of Greek mainland army officers. The mistake that Makarios made was to grossly under estimate the stupidity of the Greek junta , they couldn't invade a village defended by old women let alone invade Cyprus .

Why do you persist in talking rubbish Some estimates have Greece and EOKA killing up to 3,000 GCs...What is the matter with you people.....Are you hell bent on driving us away with your lies and misconceptions........