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[Piratis]

Piratis, do you have any idea on future developments on Cyprus issue?

No. Anything new will come after the elections are over I guess.

[purdey]

Same old Phoenix,same old language.The Cyprus issue is people,people like yourself who hate with a vengeance.Get rid of the hate and you have a solution,simple.....

[DT.]

What we have to see during this week is who will adopt the position of Papadopoulos and become the next president of Cyprus.

Those that accused Papadopoulos until yesterday, saying "anybody but Papadopoulos" have now made the big U turn and are more than willing to share power with Papadopoulos and adopt most if not all of Papadopoulos positions.

I wonder why DISY and AKEL didn't make the "big step" they were talking about and agree that none of them would form a coalition with Papadopoulos?

Until yesterday it was about "saving Cyprus" from Papadopoulos, but now it is again about "communists" and "neoliberals", and both wanting their good friend Papadopoulos in their goverment.

I hope those that were fed with the foreign made, and locally adopted for election reasons, lie that supposedly Papadopoulos was an obstacle for a solution will finally wake up and stop reproducing the slogans of our enemies.

What I say above is mostly directly to DISY/Kasoulides and those of EDI, since actually AKEL and Christofias himself has a kept a somewhat reasonable standard during the campaign.

Cyprus has changed 5 presidents so far and now we are going for the 6th. The Cyprus problem all these years was not solved not because all of our presidents were somehow bad, but for the simple reason that Turkey wants partition and she has the power to enforce it. (and the Cypriot people are not willing to sign some partition capitulation agreement)

We will not act like some traitors did in the past, and we will support the next president of Cyprus, whomever that is, against Turkey which is the real enemy of our country.

Pirati,

had papadopoulos reached the first round insteadof Kassoulides he would be making the same openings to the "traitors of DISY" who overnight would be remembered for everything they've ever done for their country.

Don't crticise the process, its been done in the same manner for the majority of our presidents.

DT, Papadopoulos never called anybody "traitor". He called "nainaikous" a specific group of people one day, and that was it I believe. What Papadopolos said, is simply the fact that somebody that has already accepted the AP, and therefore considers it good enough, will have neither the will nor the excuse to fight for something better.

Beyond this Papadopoulos was always very polite with both Kasoulides and Christofias. He never accused them of wanting to partition Cyprus, he never said that if they are elected Cyprus will be destroyed or any of the other nonsense that his opponents, and especially Kasoulides, were throwing at him, as if Papadopoulos was the enemy of Cyprus and not Turkey.

Perhaps Papdopoulos was careful because he knew he would have to form a coalition with somebody in the second round. However you have to admit that Kasoulides was not careful at all and he talked in a very arrogant and negative way towards Papadopoulos.

Most of the abuse that was given out to Kassoulides was from EDEK and the DEKO Mp's during the late night TV talks..(never missed one)

Papadopoulos response everytime someone asked him what all this abuse is for would always reply that he cannot control what the other parties that support him say about his opponents. I think we're both clever enough to imagine wat happened in that 1st strategy meeting at camp papadopoulos...

[Piratis]

By all means, wait another 50 years to see an ideal solution to the Cyprus problem. Only by that time the solution will be a single ethnic Turkish island as opposed to one which is exclusively Greek!

Are you saying that Turkey will make another invasion to occupy the whole of Cyprus?

The only way I see possible to lose the whole of Cyprus is if we agree to a bad "solution" that would mess up our country. If we are forced to accept something dysfunctional that would destroy our country and most Cypriots will immigrate abroad for a better future, while the Turkish Settlers will just stay here and multiply. More or less what is happing now in the occupied areas, could happen in the whole of Cyprus with a bad solution. Thats the only danger of loosing the whole of Cyprus.

Yes, we should try our best to take back the north part of our country, but in that effort we should be careful otherwise we could lose everything.

[shahmaran]

Neither does racism Phoenix.

Now teach that to those Turks that have ethnically cleansed 200,000 Greek Cypriots from their homes ....

LOL! Does that make any sense to you?

Specially coming from you!

They didn't get rid of the Maronite's, and we have plenty of foreigners here, so what do you think is it that makes you so special?

Attempted genocide springs to mind but than that's just me.

[DT.]

Neither does racism Phoenix.

Now teach that to those Turks that have ethnically cleansed 200,000 Greek Cypriots from their homes ....

LOL! Does that make any sense to you?

Specially coming from you!

They didn't get rid of the Maronite's, and we have plenty of foreigners here, so what do you think is it that makes you so special?

Attempted genocide springs to mind but than that's just me.

A large portion of this island has been cleansed from people of ethnic Greek background. Is that better?

[purdey]

Be thankful Turkey are not planning another invasion,I fear not many would step in to help you out.

[DT.]

Be thankful Turkey are not planning another invasion,I fear not many would step in to help you out.

They weren't exactly jumping over each other to help the first time..whats your point?

[shahmaran]

Much better DT, the sooner you see the vast differene the better.

Did it ever occur to you that Turkey might have actually been responding to the ethnic cleansing which was already being worked on very efficiently here when they arrived, rather than them sending the GC's to the South simply because "they don't like them" ?

I don't think so, however we would never see Phoenix comment on the other side of the coin either, for her it simply does not exist and it is all caused by "Turkish racism and barbarism", which is absolute bullshit.

[DT.]

Much better DT, the sooner you see the vast differene the better.

Did it ever occur to you that Turkey might have actually been responding to the ethnic cleansing which was already being worked on very efficiently here when they arrived, rather than them sending the GC's to the South simply because "they don't like them" ?

I don't think so, however we would never see Phoenix comment on the other side of the coin either, for her it simply does not exist and it is all caused by "Turkish racism and barbarism", which is absolute bullshit.

SOrry, I don't see a difference.