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[denizaksulu]

I think we all know what Phoenix means - anything Turkish has to go.

Everything Turkish has to go from political influence in Cyprus.

Cyprus is 100% RoC.

Get used to it ... countries are not for sharing.

Countries are not for sharing????? So you don't want me to share my country Cyprus with you??? So one of us have to go????Which one???The numerically superior or militarily superior????

There must be a third way,Oracle,don't you think???
Your mentality is part of the problem. A big part. So it can't be part of the solution...Think about it,please...

Closing your eyes will not make the trnc go away. Whatever you and I think about it...Think about that too...

I won't share with Turkish influence ... will you?

I will happily share with Greek influence,if you are happy to share with Turkish influence...Or better still,we get rid of both influences (political and nationalistic aspects of course,we can't do much about our mother tongues,except learn to love the other one too!),and substitute them with our own Cypriot influence...End of story...

The only Greek influence in the RoC comes from their EU partnership... Turkey is not an EU partner.

How can an intelligent (iron deficient) woman say the above is beyond logic.

Even your mentor GR is complaining about the Greek flags.
You really need to supplement your iron def. Not the Fe+++ though.

[Oracle]

The only Greek influence in the RoC comes from their EU partnership... Turkey is not an EU partner.

How can an intelligent (iron deficient) woman say the above is beyond logic.

Even your mentor GR is complaining about the Greek flags.
You really need to supplement your iron def. Not the Fe+++ though.

My iron deficiency is correctable ... how are you going to correct all your deficiencies

As I said, Greek influence to the RoC is unavoidable / understandable due to their EU partnership .... This is where Turkey is left out "cold"

[BirKibrisli]

Can I ask you something very personal,Oracle????

What is the point of dropping Phoenix as a nick,if you are going to continue in your merry way of being antagonistic towards anything Turkish and Turkish Cypriot??????

My nicks are not personal

I have not changed Bir ....... too old for that .... as Zan is having fun, pointing out at every post .... (the fact that he is virtually the same age seems to pass him by, the selective-memory old fool ).

Anyway, I changed it for practical reasons when I got a new account upon moving to Cyprus ...

The message is the same ....

Removal of Turkish influence from Cyprus.

Are you happy with the Greek Influence?????

No bir, I for one would like the greek influence and turkish influence far removed from the island and as far as possible...

lambron na kapsi tzie tes thio tis hores...fire may burn both countries...

You are spot on ,mate...What brought us here was the mindless Turkish and Greek nationalism of the time used as weapons against us...To stop us from becoming one people,one unified nation..It is beyond me how apparently reasonably intelligent people can think only one side have to make all the sacrifices...

Bir ... you are a hypocrite, since above you said this:

]And the Turkish Cypriots don't have historical,ancestral,and now ambilical associations with Turkey and the Ottoman Empire????

No,dear Oracle....You are just confused,or totally blind,or maybe shit-stirring...Whichever it is,you are not doing your cause and my cause one iota of good...

I am sorry you are sad.... I am sad too.

But we need to iron out flaws in arguments to arrive at the solution ... it may get even more painful ... but I know the right solution for Cyprus will be found and implemented.

Yep..Your equivalents on the TC side also think they know the right solution for Cyprus will be found and implemented...I see nothing in that to smile about...

[denizaksulu]

The only Greek influence in the RoC comes from their EU partnership... Turkey is not an EU partner.

How can an intelligent (iron deficient) woman say the above is beyond logic.

Even your mentor GR is complaining about the Greek flags.
You really need to supplement your iron def. Not the Fe+++ though.

My iron deficiency is correctable ... how are you going to correct all your deficiencies

As I said, Greek influence to the RoC is unavoidable / understandable due to their EU partnership .... This is where Turkey is left out "cold"

I beg you not to bamboozle me with Turkey. The Greek flags have been flying in the south way before 'you' became part of the EU. If you have no answer, just admit it.

[Natty]

Oracle, I think there's some confusion surrounding your posts (I know I’m slightly confused), so I just want to clear things up...

When you speak of 'Turkish influence', do you mean Turkish cultural influence, for example, Religion, language, music etc, or Turkish political influence, for example, troops, settlers, Turkey getting involved in Cypriot affairs, etc?

[Oracle]

Oracle, I think there's some confusion surrounding your posts (I know I’m slightly confused), so I just want to clear things up...

When you speak of 'Turkish influence', do you mean Turkish cultural influence, for example, Religion, language, music etc, or Turkish political influence, for example, troops, settlers, Turkey getting involved in Cypriot affairs, etc?

I see the "Cyprus Problem" threads as political ..... so my answers are in the context of political influences.

I adore cultural diversity and see it as part of Man's uniqueness ... so I would not deem to impart any dissolution or remove any records of contributions to this sphere.

Of course, I take exception to those who do not share these sentiments on the importance of recording for prosperity, our cultural achievements. These invariably touch over into politics.

[miltiades]

I think we all know what Phoenix means - anything Turkish has to go.

Everything Turkish has to go from political influence in Cyprus.

Cyprus is 100% RoC.

Get used to it ... countries are not for sharing.

Countries are not for sharing????? So you don't want me to share my country Cyprus with you??? So one of us have to go????Which one???The numerically superior or militarily superior????

There must be a third way,Oracle,don't you think???
Your mentality is part of the problem. A big part. So it can't be part of the solution...Think about it,please...

Closing your eyes will not make the trnc go away. Whatever you and I think about it...Think about that too...

Yes Bir you are spot on , there is a third way , your way and mine , our way Bir as true Cypriots sharing our ancestral land , thousands upon thousands of Cypriots proclaim the same message , hard to convince the extremists and encourage them to move away from their intractable positions but their message will be harder on the future generations to digest.

[Viewpoint]

I think we all know what Phoenix means - anything Turkish has to go.

Everything Turkish has to go from political influence in Cyprus.

Cyprus is 100% RoC.

Get used to it ... countries are not for sharing.

Countries are not for sharing????? So you don't want me to share my country Cyprus with you??? So one of us have to go????Which one???The numerically superior or militarily superior????

There must be a third way,Oracle,don't you think???
Your mentality is part of the problem. A big part. So it can't be part of the solution...Think about it,please...

Closing your eyes will not make the trnc go away. Whatever you and I think about it...Think about that too...

Yes Bir you are spot on , there is a third way , your way and mine , our way Bir as true Cypriots sharing our ancestral land , thousands upon thousands of Cypriots proclaim the same message , hard to convince the extremists and encourage them to move away from their intractable positions but their message will be harder on the future generations to digest.

miltiades are you for a BBF?

[Oracle]

I am sorry you are sad.... I am sad too.

But we need to iron out flaws in arguments to arrive at the solution ... it may get even more painful ... but I know the right solution for Cyprus will be found and implemented.

Yep..Your equivalents on the TC side also think they know the right solution for Cyprus will be found and implemented...I see nothing in that to smile about...

Bir ... having hope in finding the right solution is the open minded approach. Having hope is the only thing that makes me smile.

It's unfair to group me with the partitionists as we want completely contradictory solutions. I believe what they want is also poles apart from what you are aiming for.

So I can only conclude that we are all different .... or all the same in our differences.

I am pleased that you have found the right solution personally ... but I have not yet.

There is only one factor of which I am certain, to date, would contribute towards achieving a solution .... and it does not require repeating.

[miltiades]

I think we all know what Phoenix means - anything Turkish has to go.

Everything Turkish has to go from political influence in Cyprus.

Cyprus is 100% RoC.

Get used to it ... countries are not for sharing.

Countries are not for sharing????? So you don't want me to share my country Cyprus with you??? So one of us have to go????Which one???The numerically superior or militarily superior????

There must be a third way,Oracle,don't you think???
Your mentality is part of the problem. A big part. So it can't be part of the solution...Think about it,please...

Closing your eyes will not make the trnc go away. Whatever you and I think about it...Think about that too...

Yes Bir you are spot on , there is a third way , your way and mine , our way Bir as true Cypriots sharing our ancestral land , thousands upon thousands of Cypriots proclaim the same message , hard to convince the extremists and encourage them to move away from their intractable positions but their message will be harder on the future generations to digest.

miltiades are you for a BBF?

On principle yes because it would pave the way for a sustainable democracy and human rights for all Cypriots .As I already expressed many times , I do not consider minorities and majorities , as an example I believe that I Miltiades standing amongst 700 thousand or so G/Cs do not have any more rights and privileges that you VP standing with 140 thousand T/Cs or Kafenes with less than 10 thousand Armenian Cypriots.
All are Equal as Cypriots , where equality ends its when a section of Cypriots denounce their Cypriot identity and claim a perceived foreign identity.