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[Get Real!]

we can not stand alone we are just 1 million people togeather ...

Again, you're proving my point... if you dissect Cyprus even further how will we then stand?

[zan]

Choice! Coming from a man that has rejected Cyprus history for the two years I have had the pleasure of talking with him. You are hiding behind words as usual and not saying what you really believe which is a Greek dominated Cyprus when talking about Cypriotism. You are living in an age where that does not do anything to promote Cypriotism but partition. You are stuck in the 60s when blaming others of that trait.

i echo that ...what a load of rubbish ...cyp nationalism ....how and with what momentum ....this is not the SIMS ...you IT geek ...cyprus will always need Greece ,Turkey and THE E.U etc in the future if only to assist with large scale projects and asssitance in mineral mining etc

Thanks for proving my point that the CANCER is there...

AND ?

REH STOP ACTING AND DREAMING .....
we can not stand alone we are just 1 million people togeather ...we need help because economicly speaking if we go alone we will need to compensate the north on most projects ($$$$ come over from turkey for projects )

we will need their assistance in some matters adn yes we will take influence from them ...they are our neighbours as are isreal (salt desalnation plants projects ) egypt for gas mining etc

we will need to help and work politically with all these nations ....

in time we can work alone but you need to see transition

we need a government that works on transparency in its duties ...a more open democracy in years to come ....no more jobs via meson etc ...

patience reh IT geek this is not the SIMs ...

hadda to bed ....work to do 2mo ...

All GR is interested in is winning.....Two tribes go to war..Point is all that you can score!!!!

[miltiades]

Choice! Coming from a man that has rejected Cyprus history for the two years I have had the pleasure of talking with him. You are hiding behind words as usual and not saying what you really believe which is a Greek dominated Cyprus when talking about Cypriotism. You are living in an age where that does not do anything to promote Cypriotism but partition. You are stuck in the 60s when blaming others of that trait.

Zan at it again , look mate we all know where you stand . Further more we also know that you , particularly you , is committed to a partitioned Cyprus because of your inability mentally to accept some realities. The G/Cs Mr Plonker , through no fault of their own happen to be the overwhelming majority , you seem to hate this fact so much so that when anyone talks of Cyprus as a nation immediately you respond with your usual crap , Greek dominated Cyprus and when people like my self who have stated time and time that all Cypriots are the majority and that I see no minorities in Cyprus you ridicule them by using your favorite denigrating word , against me any way , "OLD MAN" and when it comes to Bir and Kikapu you attack with your venomous nonsense.
Take it or leave it man , this is Cyprus not bloody Turkey , and not bloody Greece , it is a nation that those who choose to be part of it will flourish , sorry I cant do much about the G/Cs being in the majority , fact of life boy just as the English are the majority in the UK , a fact that means fuck all to those of us who have our brains where there should be . I dont hear Bir moaning that as a Cypriot he is in the minority in Australia , it doesn't enter the equation and neither should the perceived ethnicity of Cypriots .I'm happy that I'm not afflicted by the cancerous effect of foreign motherland bullshit and just happy and proud to be a Cypriot .

[humanist]

Miltiades

Zan at it again , look mate we all know where you stand . Further more we also know that you , particularly you , is committed to a partitioned Cyprus because of your inability mentally to accept some realities. The G/Cs Mr Plonker , through no fault of their own happen to be the overwhelming majority , you seem to hate this fact so much so that when anyone talks of Cyprus as a nation immediately you respond with your usual crap , Greek dominated Cyprus and when people like my self who have stated time and time that all Cypriots are the majority and that I see no minorities in Cyprus you ridicule them by using your favorite denigrating word , against me any way , "OLD MAN" and when it comes to Bir and Kikapu you attack with your venomous nonsense.
Take it or leave it man , this is Cyprus not bloody Turkey , and not bloody Greece , it is a nation that those who choose to be part of it will flourish , sorry I cant do much about the G/Cs being in the majority , fact of life boy just as the English are the majority in the UK , a fact that means fuck all to those of us who have our brains where there should be . I dont hear Bir moaning that as a Cypriot he is in the minority in Australia , it doesn't enter the equation and neither should the perceived ethnicity of Cypriots .I'm happy that I'm not afflicted by the cancerous effect of foreign motherland bullshit and just happy and proud to be a Cypriot .

great post if he does not get it, he will never get it becausehe is unable to so, due to hurt and hatred. Comapssion is required here I believe.

[zan]

Choice! Coming from a man that has rejected Cyprus history for the two years I have had the pleasure of talking with him. You are hiding behind words as usual and not saying what you really believe which is a Greek dominated Cyprus when talking about Cypriotism. You are living in an age where that does not do anything to promote Cypriotism but partition. You are stuck in the 60s when blaming others of that trait.

Zan at it again , look mate we all know where you stand . Further more we also know that you , particularly you , is committed to a partitioned Cyprus because of your inability mentally to accept some realities. The G/Cs Mr Plonker , through no fault of their own happen to be the overwhelming majority , you seem to hate this fact so much so that when anyone talks of Cyprus as a nation immediately you respond with your usual crap , Greek dominated Cyprus and when people like my self who have stated time and time that all Cypriots are the majority and that I see no minorities in Cyprus you ridicule them by using your favorite denigrating word , against me any way , "OLD MAN" and when it comes to Bir and Kikapu you attack with your venomous nonsense.
Take it or leave it man , this is Cyprus not bloody Turkey , and not bloody Greece , it is a nation that those who choose to be part of it will flourish , sorry I cant do much about the G/Cs being in the majority , fact of life boy just as the English are the majority in the UK , a fact that means fuck all to those of us who have our brains where there should be . I dont hear Bir moaning that as a Cypriot he is in the minority in Australia , it doesn't enter the equation and neither should the perceived ethnicity of Cypriots .I'm happy that I'm not afflicted by the cancerous effect of foreign motherland bullshit and just happy and proud to be a Cypriot .

And I can't help it that there is a large presence of Turkish Cypriots on the island that have always had representation and still want it...You want what you want and that is the end of it is it....We want official representation as accorded in the Zurich Agreement and nothing less...As a whole...That is why we live in a separate state..You seem to be happy to pay lip service to what we want as long as your majority gets what it wants..Well excuse me for fighting our corner. Why is it so hard for you to give up just a little bit of representation on the island for my background and my wants and my people and my language....You are quite happy for it to be put into the hands of people like Tpap and give it to chance..Well, history has shown us that we cannot afford to do that so what will you really lose by giving me the right to protect that on paper and in a sure way....WHAT!!!!

You want me to trust you but you have not the slightest bit of trust to offer me equal footing in the running of my own country...Then you have the cheek to say that we should accept that you love us as you do your own....What will it cost you to go back to the Zurich agreement...Come on...lets hear it...Try not to lose the question in the refugee crap ands answer this one thing....Cypriots, be they TC or GC running a country side by side with respect and love for each other......What is wrong with that....Both cultures represented and protected.....Not left to chance....How much real love have you got for us and how much love Miltiades......Lets hear it.....It can only be that you do not trust us and that is why you want to rule us....Is that it!!!!

Do you trust as a community or not???

[miltiades]

Zan Mate IM ALLL FOR GOING BACK TO THE ZURICH AGGREEMENT !

YES YES YES YES YES I HAVE BEEN TRUSTING THE T/CS AND I HAVE STATED THIS MANY TIMES.
Mate your confusing me with someone else , this is Miltiades , you the guy who has on so many occasions stated that his ambition is to see a T/C as the president of a unified Cyprus , a party embracing all Cypriots !!
How many times do I need to make my position clear. There are many Miltiadesses in Cyprus , just as there are many Birs and Kikapus , hopefully just a few Zans !!

[miltiades]

ps. Forgot something , TPap is now History just as ENOSIS and EOKA , Time for you to move on Zan with your signature !!

[zan]

Zan Mate IM ALLL FOR GOING BACK TO THE ZURICH AGGREEMENT !

YES YES YES YES YES I HAVE BEEN TRUSTING THE T/CS AND I HAVE STATED THIS MANY TIMES.
Mate your confusing me with someone else , this is Miltiades , you the guy who has on so many occasions stated that his ambition is to see a T/C as the president of a unified Cyprus , a party embracing all Cypriots !!
How many times do I need to make my position clear. There are many Miltiadesses in Cyprus , just as there are many Birs and Kikapus , hopefully just a few Zans !!

Bullshit Lip service......Love comes with understanding. Understanding of the people and the circumstances and the real situation. It says, let us move on from today and not have to uproot the people you so love for sentimentality and a false sense of justice...I want to move forward with reality and not some need to turn back time and cause an entire people hardship and embarrassment. That is true love of a people Miltiades. Say sorry and move on. Look forward to improving relations and a united Cyprus in the future. That does not mean partition but respected borders for now. That means we trust you to do the right thing so we can be together again in the future.....My brother in laws favourite saying/question is rude but goes "siking gakarkandan sokacung"?(Written in Kibrislica) I will not translate it here.

Now, after Tpap has gone, and I hope he does not do what I am suspicious of him doing and rule in the shadows, I hope there are many like me on our side and many like Bananiot on yours because only then can we move forward as a people. we can start to trust each other and stop fighting over a tiny bit of land. We recognise that others have interests in Cyprus and they are not going anywhere until we make them as a whole. You want revolution and blood shed...I want a gradual transition in which people will suffer yes, but not all in one go. It will be painful no matter what but you want to inflict pain that is universal and detrimental to my people as a race. Racism and bigotry all rolled up in one burning ball.

[DT.]

Zan Mate IM ALLL FOR GOING BACK TO THE ZURICH AGGREEMENT !

YES YES YES YES YES I HAVE BEEN TRUSTING THE T/CS AND I HAVE STATED THIS MANY TIMES.
Mate your confusing me with someone else , this is Miltiades , you the guy who has on so many occasions stated that his ambition is to see a T/C as the president of a unified Cyprus , a party embracing all Cypriots !!
How many times do I need to make my position clear. There are many Miltiadesses in Cyprus , just as there are many Birs and Kikapus , hopefully just a few Zans !!

Bullshit Lip service......Love comes with understanding. Understanding of the people and the circumstances and the real situation. It says, let us move on from today and not have to uproot the people you so love for sentimentality and a false sense of justice...I want to move forward with reality and not some need to turn back time and cause an entire people hardship and embarrassment. That is true love of a people Miltiades. Say sorry and move on. Look forward to improving relations and a united Cyprus in the future. That does not mean partition but respected borders for now. That means we trust you to do the right thing so we can be together again in the future.....My brother in laws favourite saying/question is rude but goes "siking gakarkandan sokacung"?(Written in Kibrislica) I will not translate it here.

Now, after Tpap has gone, and I hope he does not do what I am suspicious of him doing and rule in the shadows, I hope there are many like me on our side and many like Bananiot on yours because only then can we move forward as a people. we can start to trust each other and stop fighting over a tiny bit of land. We recognise that others have interests in Cyprus and they are not going anywhere until we make them as a whole. You want revolution and blood shed...I want a gradual transition in which people will suffer yes, but not all in one go. It will be painful no matter what but you want to inflict pain that is universal and detrimental to my people as a race. Racism and bigotry all rolled up in one burning ball.

You want to move forward whe it comes to compromising on whats important for the GC's yet when it comes to the TC's you've got 1963 in your holster whenever you run out of arguments.

I would not compare yourself to Bananiot Zan. Bananiot has made a consciense decision to close his eyes on the injustices that your side is proposing we swallow for the sake of a united island. He is focused on uniting this island at any means necessary whereas you shout at the "injustices" your people will face if GC refugees return to their homes.

Your suggestions of respecting these so -called borders your millitary have put up places you nowhere near Bananiots positions.

As Bir says, accept an unfair solution to this prolem and the side that got the short end of the stick will not be able to live with it. Any solution of any such design is doomed to fail.

We've made a move, we got rid of your bogeyman and now have 2 people willing to sit down and negotiate. WHats your excuse gonna be now?

[miltiades]

Zan wrote referring to Miltiades :

""""You want revolution and blood shed...I want a gradual transition in which people will suffer yes, but not all in one go. It will be painful no matter what but you want to inflict pain that is universal and detrimental to my people as a race. Racism and bigotry all rolled up in one burning ball. """
For the last time , if you can say that about me you are full of shit .End of the matter as far as your stupid bloody assessments you are A BIGGER PLONKER THAN I THOUGHT