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Postby cypezokyli » Mon Feb 18, 2008 7:37 am

Kifeas wrote:
cypezokyli wrote:
Kifeas wrote:
Filitsa wrote:Kassoulides all the way!


Filitsa, since you seem to have voted for Kasoulides, can you perhaps tell us what Kasoulides doesn't like from the Anal plan and would like to see them changed? Are there any elements of the Anal plan that he doesn't like, or is he going to bring it back to us as it is, in order to vote for it this time? Do you happen to know?


surprised that this kind of "argumentation" still continues, even after its obvious failure to convince the cypriot electorate!

if you dont like kasoulides, you can always vote for christofias.

as simple as that.


Pezo, I am only asking! In fact, I am asking Filitsa, and not you! Where did you see the "argumentation?"

At least, since you have chosen to reply, I would have expected you knew the answers to my questions! Do you?


you may ask, all those politicians who voted for tpap, and who are now likely to vote for kasoulides (or christofias) for an answer.

:wink:

i am sure that this week they ll all have an answer :lol:
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Postby miltiades » Mon Feb 18, 2008 7:38 am

I have always kept out of Cypriot politics believing that unless you live in Cyprus and follow the political daily manifestations it would be difficult to know each party's policies. As far as AKEL is concerned , you can live anywhere in the world and yet be fully acquainted with the political commitments of their philosophy and I have always detested communism.
May the new President continue to maintain peace and stability on our island and may he use his office to bring a just solution for all of our people.
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Postby Raymanoff » Mon Feb 18, 2008 8:58 am

my god, a whole week of free political pornography... loving it. :D
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Hear,Hear!

Postby cymart » Mon Feb 18, 2008 10:09 am

From my experiences in Russia and what I saw of former so-called 'communists' their hierarchy are the worst kind of sycophants, crooks and downright opportunists and liars etc!Overnight,the communist 'nomenclatura' there all became 'businessmeny' with the party funds that they stole without impunity!The corruption inherited from the old days under the Soviet system is now one of the major problems in Russia.Much as I would like to think Christophias is a decent guy from a simple background who has good intentions about solving the Cyprus problem etc, it still remains that his party have wheeled and dealed snce the 1960's to have their share in power and I cannot seriously believe they can change now.Even though there are some very educated and sincere so-called 'rank and file' members among the AKEL, the fact remains that the whole system and ideology they believe in has proved to be a failure and rejected all over the world so I cannot see how they could create a better future anywhere,especially in Cyprus where we have so many other problems already to deal with!
The main objective was to change the leadership of course and we have done that,but I'm sure that Cassoulides is by far the best option for European Cyprus.
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Postby DT. » Mon Feb 18, 2008 10:16 am

Kifeas wrote:
Filitsa wrote:
Kifeas wrote:
Filitsa wrote:Kassoulides all the way!


Filitsa, since you seem to have voted for Kasoulides, can you perhaps tell us what Kasoulides doesn't like from the Anal plan and would like to see them changed? Are there any elements of the Anal plan that he doesn't like, or is he going to bring it back to us as it is, in order to vote for it this time? Do you happen to know?


Kifeas, if I could vote in Cyprus's elections, I would indeed vote for Kassoulides. Because you know as well as I do what Kassoulides's position is on the "Anan Plan," participating in your examination of my knowledge would bestow undue dignity on your disingenuous prank. :)


No Filitsa, I do not know what his possition is on the A-plan! All I know is that in page 7 of his pre-election program, he made the following statement: "“Nevertheless, let there be no mistake about it: the people were called upon to decide and they did, the Anan plan cannot and will not return. Neither as it was, nor with cosmetic changes.”

Are you saying that what he has claimed was not true and that he indeed aims at bringing back the A-plan as it is or with some cosmetic changes? If you would have voted for him, as you said, then you must be able to know that as well, otherwise, don't tell me you would have voted for someone that you do not know what he stands for! Same question extents to DT and all those that said they voted for him!


Actually Kifeas, it was Tassos who first said that you cannot kill off the AP. He said the Annan Plan (Anal plan sounds good as well, we'll agree there) was an amalgamation of all other plans before and the next plan will include some sort of modification of the AP as well. Thats what Tassos was willing and expected to bring back. (BBC interview, the program was HardTalk)

Kassoulides view is to first figure out what sort of solution we want first of all. Decide on a cross party level what these famous red lines of ours really are and then go after it.

To be honest with you I would consier a partnership with Deko as an ideal combination in this govt. The Pro-EU energetic Kassoulides can rebuild relations with our partners while the hardline stance of DEKO can serve as a counter balance during the negotiations. A sort of good cop bad cop situation.


The other thing I do not understand here is this apparent denial some people have of the democratic process. 67% of the population voted against Tassos and brainwashed little heads like pantheman refuse to accept this fact.

I heard a Deko mp today on the radio say how the electorate betrayed this hero. I'm not gonna argue about whether he was a hero or a zero but I am surprised at the contining arrogance of these people who are pissed off with us because we did not vote for the man they explicitly told us to!!
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Postby pantheman » Mon Feb 18, 2008 11:45 am

Filitsa wrote:
pantheman wrote:
zan wrote:
pantheman wrote:Hey, Zan, you can change your signature now and remove the ...'Kept out by TPaP...'

Instead you can put '... But DT just gave us the rest of the country on a plate, no questions ...'


Sorry mate...I know you guys are excited but I will tread with easy steps on new ground. I really am trying not be negative here and rub your nose in it.


Oh now look what you have done, you have brought in the bloody yanks who want to rule our country from across the atlantic.

Filitsa darling, at least come and live in the country, then have your say. Because you couldn't give a rats arse if Cyprus sank or swam really.

Jeeez, these part time country folk, I amsurprised she evens knows where Cyprus is on the map, given she is a typical yank first and foremost. :wink:


Hee hee hee ... Kassoulides all the way! Considering you're probably a recent British implant at best, you can kiss my Yankee pisino, agaph mou. :lol: :wink:


Agaph mou, as you put it, tha sou gamiso ton pisino. You typical arrogant yank.

British implant, yes , well I am here aren't I where the F are you. 10,000 miles away all nice and tucked up farting you comments from a safe haven, how brave.

idiot.
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Postby Filitsa » Mon Feb 18, 2008 2:16 pm

pantheman wrote:
Filitsa wrote:
pantheman wrote:
zan wrote:
pantheman wrote:Hey, Zan, you can change your signature now and remove the ...'Kept out by TPaP...'

Instead you can put '... But DT just gave us the rest of the country on a plate, no questions ...'


Sorry mate...I know you guys are excited but I will tread with easy steps on new ground. I really am trying not be negative here and rub your nose in it.


Oh now look what you have done, you have brought in the bloody yanks who want to rule our country from across the atlantic.

Filitsa darling, at least come and live in the country, then have your say. Because you couldn't give a rats arse if Cyprus sank or swam really.

Jeeez, these part time country folk, I amsurprised she evens knows where Cyprus is on the map, given she is a typical yank first and foremost. :wink:


Hee hee hee ... Kassoulides all the way! Considering you're probably a recent British implant at best, you can kiss my Yankee pisino, agaph mou. :lol: :wink:


Agaph mou, as you put it, tha sou gamiso ton pisino. You typical arrogant yank.

British implant, yes , well I am here aren't I where the F are you. 10,000 miles away all nice and tucked up farting you comments from a safe haven, how brave.

idiot.


Ya, I'm sure you're there to champion the Cyprus cause amidst the other bar crawlers, dazzling them with your eloquent Greek. Cyprus must be proud to have you. I mean you are indeed brave, spewing obsene threats on the internet. Exactly how many do you need to toss back before you become this bad ass, big man? :roll:
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Postby Oracle » Mon Feb 18, 2008 2:23 pm

DT. wrote:
Kifeas wrote:
Filitsa wrote:
Kifeas wrote:
Filitsa wrote:Kassoulides all the way!


Filitsa, since you seem to have voted for Kasoulides, can you perhaps tell us what Kasoulides doesn't like from the Anal plan and would like to see them changed? Are there any elements of the Anal plan that he doesn't like, or is he going to bring it back to us as it is, in order to vote for it this time? Do you happen to know?


Kifeas, if I could vote in Cyprus's elections, I would indeed vote for Kassoulides. Because you know as well as I do what Kassoulides's position is on the "Anan Plan," participating in your examination of my knowledge would bestow undue dignity on your disingenuous prank. :)


No Filitsa, I do not know what his possition is on the A-plan! All I know is that in page 7 of his pre-election program, he made the following statement: "“Nevertheless, let there be no mistake about it: the people were called upon to decide and they did, the Anan plan cannot and will not return. Neither as it was, nor with cosmetic changes.”

Are you saying that what he has claimed was not true and that he indeed aims at bringing back the A-plan as it is or with some cosmetic changes? If you would have voted for him, as you said, then you must be able to know that as well, otherwise, don't tell me you would have voted for someone that you do not know what he stands for! Same question extents to DT and all those that said they voted for him!


Actually Kifeas, it was Tassos who first said that you cannot kill off the AP. He said the Annan Plan (Anal plan sounds good as well, we'll agree there) was an amalgamation of all other plans before and the next plan will include some sort of modification of the AP as well. Thats what Tassos was willing and expected to bring back. (BBC interview, the program was HardTalk)

Kassoulides view is to first figure out what sort of solution we want first of all. Decide on a cross party level what these famous red lines of ours really are and then go after it.

To be honest with you I would consier a partnership with Deko as an ideal combination in this govt. The Pro-EU energetic Kassoulides can rebuild relations with our partners while the hardline stance of DEKO can serve as a counter balance during the negotiations. A sort of good cop bad cop situation.


The other thing I do not understand here is this apparent denial some people have of the democratic process. 67% of the population voted against Tassos and brainwashed little heads like pantheman refuse to accept this fact.

I heard a Deko mp today on the radio say how the electorate betrayed this hero. I'm not gonna argue about whether he was a hero or a zero but I am surprised at the contining arrogance of these people who are pissed off with us because we did not vote for the man they explicitly told us to!!


DT. dear .... I would never deem to contradict you ... but, I can't bite my tongue any longer!

A vote for someone is not necessarily a vote against the others ....
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Postby Raymanoff » Mon Feb 18, 2008 2:26 pm

i am sick of overquoting... what a mess

can i give u a hint???

Copy the text you want to quote, paste it in reply window... and type
in the begining and
in the end... please, its such a bad habbit.
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Postby Raymanoff » Mon Feb 18, 2008 2:26 pm

oops... u see, it worked :D
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