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Postby Filitsa » Mon Feb 18, 2008 12:41 am

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pantheman wrote:Hey, Zan, you can change your signature now and remove the ...'Kept out by TPaP...'

Instead you can put '... But DT just gave us the rest of the country on a plate, no questions ...'


Sorry mate...I know you guys are excited but I will tread with easy steps on new ground. I really am trying not be negative here and rub your nose in it.


Oh now look what you have done, you have brought in the bloody yanks who want to rule our country from across the atlantic.

Filitsa darling, at least come and live in the country, then have your say. Because you couldn't give a rats arse if Cyprus sank or swam really.

Jeeez, these part time country folk, I amsurprised she evens knows where Cyprus is on the map, given she is a typical yank first and foremost. :wink:


Hee hee hee ... Kassoulides all the way! Considering you're probably a recent British implant at best, you can kiss my Yankee pisino, agaph mou. :lol: :wink:
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Postby Kifeas » Mon Feb 18, 2008 12:47 am

Filitsa wrote:Kassoulides all the way!


Filitsa, since you seem to have voted for Kasoulides, can you perhaps tell us what Kasoulides doesn't like from the Anal plan and would like to see them changed? Are there any elements of the Anal plan that he doesn't like, or is he going to bring it back to us as it is, in order to vote for it this time? Do you happen to know?
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Postby cypezokyli » Mon Feb 18, 2008 12:57 am

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Filitsa wrote:Kassoulides all the way!


Filitsa, since you seem to have voted for Kasoulides, can you perhaps tell us what Kasoulides doesn't like from the Anal plan and would like to see them changed? Are there any elements of the Anal plan that he doesn't like, or is he going to bring it back to us as it is, in order to vote for it this time? Do you happen to know?


surprised that this kind of "argumentation" still continues, even after its obvious failure to convince the cypriot electorate!

if you dont like kasoulides, you can always vote for christofias.

as simple as that.
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Postby oranos64 » Mon Feb 18, 2008 1:00 am

zan wrote:
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zan wrote:
DT. wrote:
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Piratis wrote:
DT. wrote:
Piratis wrote:DT. Kasoulides is way bellow the league of any other president we had so far.

He talks with no essence, about "dreams" and "imaginations" and a ton of prepared empty slogans. Kasoulides doesn't even have 1/10th of the caliber of Papadopoulos, Cleredes or Vassiliou.

Personally I hope Christofias will come back to his senses like he was until 6 months ago so we will be able to support him. Otherwise I will personally vote for nobody.



I know what you mean Piratis. Kassoulides is my option after knowing what i know about the Papadopoulos camp. I know a satisfactory amount about Christofias to realise that a Communist leader who did not want the EU is not the person to represent us there.


I agree with you about Christofias, but at least he seems like a person who thinks very well about his moves and everything he says or does is thought and planned.

Kasoulides on the other hand is not particularly charismatic, but unfortunately he doesn't realize this. He seems like a person who will just dream and imagine things, and act spontaneously. I feel he would be very dangerous as our representative in negotiations.

After rejecting Papadopoulos, who was not perfect but was better than the other two, now we have to choose between the remaining two.

The choice is between Chrisofias who I hope will side with EDEK and DIKO and therefore follow more or less the same policies, but who will unfortunately create a very bad image for Cyprus abroad, and on the other side is Kasoulides who apparently wants to follow a far right economic policy and in my belief will be very bad as a negotiator.


What have you got to say about the GCs rejecting your idol?

I hope nothing...I know its rare for you to watch democracy at work VP but you're acting like an infant. In democracies, even all-powerful demi-gods such as the one you made of Tpap can get voted out. We had him for 5 years and you thought him as an overbearing leader who was against a resoution which you yourself has said many time you did not want anyway!!!

Your hypocrisy grows even more with the fact that it took you 30+ years to get rid of the acknowledged equivalent (in your eyes) to Tpap, Denktash and it only took us 5 years to realise we're ready for a change.


So what is on offer for us then DT...I don't want to bring you guys down but what!!!?


hey zan hows east london ...

well he is more determined than either of the other two for a solution and direct talks based on various targets and dates to be achieved by

he is a realist ....

well zan i met him mate and i met the other two too and he is definately the guy who is pro solutuon plus he is a realist ...he talks of equality and he is well recieved in the E.U etc ......

patience pro ...you got rid of the fat guy ...we just got rid of little hitler ...lets see


Hi mate

Bloody roads are falling to pieces...

I am waiting mate....Like you say...Lets wait and see.


yes mate i hear from mates in edmonton ,ilford and the like that the east of london is in need of some serious investment before the olympic games etc

also sad to hear that a young T.C youth was stabbed close to death in southgate by gangs ...

well over here we are over joyed mate that tpap and his crazy weird looking gang ...has anyone got a picture of his minitstry officials are GOOONNNNENENENEEEEE BYE BYE ....

i sat with the immgration minister /home effairs MINISTER and she looked like frankenstiens leftovers and she WAS totally unprofessional ...all diko camp come over as confused old people ...

well anyway ..listen ...what ever happens we will see a solution in the next 4 years ...
the U.N is going to see to it ...they are already downsizing the officers and facitlies ....and preparing to chair talks with big $$$$ incentives

hopefully we will see a solution that benefits both communities ..i have always said i, dont mind if we stay the same and work togeather to a long term stratergy or two communities as matskis suggested...i leave it to the experts .....just want to see happy people ...

my only dream is that the children in the future ,have jobs,good health ,can afford homes in their own lands ,have water and food,energy supplies etc ..good well planned government solutions to these issues and everyone who comes here and lives is equal and treated fairly ....and most importantly ...a goverment who actually plans and has evidence of contingency planning and no more red tape departments.

a dream but it can happen ...

take a deep breath zan ...because thats the vision kass- has too and he sat with the think tank guys i know and agreed with them on most of my input and he came over to shake my hands after my questioning ,thanking me also for coming home to help my people

hopefully when i die .i will know that that i did my part in shaping a future for my people .....

amen ...time to go to bed

stay safe out there zan .....
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Postby Kifeas » Mon Feb 18, 2008 1:10 am

cypezokyli wrote:
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Filitsa wrote:Kassoulides all the way!


Filitsa, since you seem to have voted for Kasoulides, can you perhaps tell us what Kasoulides doesn't like from the Anal plan and would like to see them changed? Are there any elements of the Anal plan that he doesn't like, or is he going to bring it back to us as it is, in order to vote for it this time? Do you happen to know?


surprised that this kind of "argumentation" still continues, even after its obvious failure to convince the cypriot electorate!

if you dont like kasoulides, you can always vote for christofias.

as simple as that.


Pezo, I am only asking! In fact, I am asking Filitsa, and not you! Where did you see the "argumentation?"

At least, since you have chosen to reply, I would have expected you knew the answers to my questions! Do you?
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Postby Get Real! » Mon Feb 18, 2008 1:34 am

Filitsa wrote:
pantheman wrote:
zan wrote:
pantheman wrote:Hey, Zan, you can change your signature now and remove the ...'Kept out by TPaP...'

Instead you can put '... But DT just gave us the rest of the country on a plate, no questions ...'


Sorry mate...I know you guys are excited but I will tread with easy steps on new ground. I really am trying not be negative here and rub your nose in it.


Oh now look what you have done, you have brought in the bloody yanks who want to rule our country from across the atlantic.

Filitsa darling, at least come and live in the country, then have your say. Because you couldn't give a rats arse if Cyprus sank or swam really.

Jeeez, these part time country folk, I amsurprised she evens knows where Cyprus is on the map, given she is a typical yank first and foremost. :wink:


Hee hee hee ... Kassoulides all the way! Considering you're probably a recent British implant at best, you can kiss my Yankee pisino, agaph mou. :lol: :wink:

There's actually something else we like to do with that...
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Postby humanist » Mon Feb 18, 2008 2:28 am

Michalis
Humanist you are very right on your estimations and sorry to hear your past experiences. I am also against the Greek flags flying on Kasoulides Campaign and also I support an independent National Anthem to replace the current one. But as a voter it seems that I did not have any other choice / alternative to choose from. I feel exactly the same as yourself when I see any greek identity in Cyprus. No other president so far not Papadopoulos not Vasiliou not Kyprianou has taken any step to replace the Greek flags on the island.

In fact Christofias has a stronger Cypriot Idenity BUT his communist Ideology,. rememebr he used to be against Europe , Euro adoption he is still against Nato . How can this man be trusted ? I was very skeptical . Initially as I was considering this choice but then my mind has changed for Kasoulides who was younger and more willing to propose changes for the benefit of the country who is already a memebr of EU. Rememeber I voted for Europe , West, Young Generation of politicians and NOT GREECE and Greek Flags In fact I have an allergy on Greek flags .

Any solution that will be proposed will be put on a referendum so why all this fear that Kasoulides will sell the country this is an utopia. People will vote for any plan and If people do not like the plan clearly they will reject it.

Also Papadopoulos has not taken any decision after the referendum towards the Cyprus issue. Does nt this make you worry ? Has Papadopoulos No vote eliminate the Turkish troops? the settelrs? has anyone refugee retuned after the No Vote? So the No vote was nt a success either as nothing has happened since referendum. This of course has made many TCs to Choose Turkey than Cyprus and made many of them to believe on Partition as the only viable solution .


Michalis, thank you for your response and acknowledgement. I tottally hear you mate. Yes indeed I was very disapointed at the lack of direction shown by Papadopoulos after the referendum. And stated many times on this forum that his lack of action on the Cypro did set things back. As far as the AP am glad that it was voted down, I personally did not agree with the main terms of Turkish involvement and presence on Cyprus soveeinghty, and Turkish army presence even if it was 500 or whatever the number was. In my response to yuou ofcourse I forgot that any solution will go to referendum therefore there is no such concern.

As far as Christofias is concerned I too believe in the communist manifesto but I have come to acceot that the ideoogy cannot be fully and trully be implemented by any human being to ensure pure equality and lack of class structure therefore it is only a glimer of hope for me. I am not living in Cyprus and therefore I am not sure about the EU I was not there long enough to make up my mind, howevre, I found that the two many rules that come from the Angl saxon creation squash human spirit and replace it with robotic existence. But mainly what I saw is that it is squashing small business for the gloablisation and the ethos that brings with it. I was not aware that Christofias was against the euro, to me a currency is just that and shey if your in europe you may as well do as the europeans do.

I spaoke a little about the AP earlier and a year ago I would have never accvepted partition as an option but now after being on this forum and looking at TC view on the rest of Cyprus and GC's I am willing to explore an 18% - 82% partition and am sure my family will stand to loose property in that, but hey if am not welcomed by a compatriot the land is just that I can replace it with another.

So thank you for taking time out to converse, congratulations on the win of your preferred candidate and Thank God we got time to see what happens to our country. I would love to return to a free HOME.
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Postby Filitsa » Mon Feb 18, 2008 3:06 am

Kifeas wrote:
Filitsa wrote:Kassoulides all the way!


Filitsa, since you seem to have voted for Kasoulides, can you perhaps tell us what Kasoulides doesn't like from the Anal plan and would like to see them changed? Are there any elements of the Anal plan that he doesn't like, or is he going to bring it back to us as it is, in order to vote for it this time? Do you happen to know?


Kifeas, if I could vote in Cyprus's elections, I would indeed vote for Kassoulides. Because you know as well as I do what Kassoulides's position is on the "Anan Plan," participating in your examination of my knowledge would bestow undue dignity on your disingenuous prank. :)
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Postby Filitsa » Mon Feb 18, 2008 3:14 am

Get Real! wrote:
Filitsa wrote:
pantheman wrote:
zan wrote:
pantheman wrote:Hey, Zan, you can change your signature now and remove the ...'Kept out by TPaP...'

Instead you can put '... But DT just gave us the rest of the country on a plate, no questions ...'


Sorry mate...I know you guys are excited but I will tread with easy steps on new ground. I really am trying not be negative here and rub your nose in it.


Oh now look what you have done, you have brought in the bloody yanks who want to rule our country from across the atlantic.

Filitsa darling, at least come and live in the country, then have your say. Because you couldn't give a rats arse if Cyprus sank or swam really.

Jeeez, these part time country folk, I amsurprised she evens knows where Cyprus is on the map, given she is a typical yank first and foremost. :wink:


Hee hee hee ... Kassoulides all the way! Considering you're probably a recent British implant at best, you can kiss my Yankee pisino, agaph mou. :lol: :wink:

There's actually something else we like to do with that...


:lol: I'm sure, dahling, but you can't, so keep dreaming while I keep posting. :wink:
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Postby Kifeas » Mon Feb 18, 2008 7:05 am

Filitsa wrote:
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Filitsa wrote:Kassoulides all the way!


Filitsa, since you seem to have voted for Kasoulides, can you perhaps tell us what Kasoulides doesn't like from the Anal plan and would like to see them changed? Are there any elements of the Anal plan that he doesn't like, or is he going to bring it back to us as it is, in order to vote for it this time? Do you happen to know?


Kifeas, if I could vote in Cyprus's elections, I would indeed vote for Kassoulides. Because you know as well as I do what Kassoulides's position is on the "Anan Plan," participating in your examination of my knowledge would bestow undue dignity on your disingenuous prank. :)


No Filitsa, I do not know what his possition is on the A-plan! All I know is that in page 7 of his pre-election program, he made the following statement: "“Nevertheless, let there be no mistake about it: the people were called upon to decide and they did, the Anan plan cannot and will not return. Neither as it was, nor with cosmetic changes.”

Are you saying that what he has claimed was not true and that he indeed aims at bringing back the A-plan as it is or with some cosmetic changes? If you would have voted for him, as you said, then you must be able to know that as well, otherwise, don't tell me you would have voted for someone that you do not know what he stands for! Same question extents to DT and all those that said they voted for him!
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