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Postby Viewpoint » Sun Feb 17, 2008 11:15 pm

Piratis wrote:
What have you got to say about the GCs rejecting your idol?


Each Cypriot (Greek Cypriots, Armenian Cypriots, Latin Cypriots, Maronite Cypriots, law obeying Turkish Cypriots etc) cast their vote, one person one vote as true democracy is, and therefore their decision is fully respected.

Papadopoulos is not my "idol", just the person that I believe was far better than the other 2 options available. But no matter how strong this belief of mine is, in democracies what is done is what the majority democratically decides, and not what I want.


You hypocrite, your despot arrogant and rude interations with Bananiot were read by all on the forum, how soon you forget, a sorry I was wrong would have proved you were a better person but you I see you find it very difficult to do the right thing. DT I was for papdop as he woudl have given us a btter chance to agreed divsion as he was valued in the world to want a fair solution.
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Postby Piratis » Sun Feb 17, 2008 11:23 pm

Viewpoint wrote:
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What have you got to say about the GCs rejecting your idol?


Each Cypriot (Greek Cypriots, Armenian Cypriots, Latin Cypriots, Maronite Cypriots, law obeying Turkish Cypriots etc) cast their vote, one person one vote as true democracy is, and therefore their decision is fully respected.

Papadopoulos is not my "idol", just the person that I believe was far better than the other 2 options available. But no matter how strong this belief of mine is, in democracies what is done is what the majority democratically decides, and not what I want.


You hypocrite, your despot arrogant and rude interations with Bananiot were read by all on the forum, how soon you forget, a sorry I was wrong would have proved you were a better person but you I see you find it very difficult to do the right thing. DT I was for papdop as he woudl have given us a btter chance to agreed divsion as he was valued in the world to want a fair solution.


???? With Bananiot I supported my opinion as I always do and as I will continue doing. What is hypocritical in this? And to say sorry about what? For making my democratic choice in the elections??? :roll:
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Postby Viewpoint » Sun Feb 17, 2008 11:26 pm

Piratis wrote:
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Piratis wrote:
What have you got to say about the GCs rejecting your idol?


Each Cypriot (Greek Cypriots, Armenian Cypriots, Latin Cypriots, Maronite Cypriots, law obeying Turkish Cypriots etc) cast their vote, one person one vote as true democracy is, and therefore their decision is fully respected.

Papadopoulos is not my "idol", just the person that I believe was far better than the other 2 options available. But no matter how strong this belief of mine is, in democracies what is done is what the majority democratically decides, and not what I want.


You hypocrite, your despot arrogant and rude interations with Bananiot were read by all on the forum, how soon you forget, a sorry I was wrong would have proved you were a better person but you I see you find it very difficult to do the right thing. DT I was for papdop as he woudl have given us a btter chance to agreed divsion as he was valued in the world to want a fair solution.


???? With Bananiot I supported my opinion as I always do and as I will continue doing. What is hypocritical in this? And to say sorry about what? For making my democratic choice in the elections??? :roll:


You are hypocrite today not for supporting your belief but for not accepting you were wrong and that the GCs wud not support your idol.
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Postby DT. » Sun Feb 17, 2008 11:29 pm

Viewpoint wrote:
Piratis wrote:
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Piratis wrote:
What have you got to say about the GCs rejecting your idol?


Each Cypriot (Greek Cypriots, Armenian Cypriots, Latin Cypriots, Maronite Cypriots, law obeying Turkish Cypriots etc) cast their vote, one person one vote as true democracy is, and therefore their decision is fully respected.

Papadopoulos is not my "idol", just the person that I believe was far better than the other 2 options available. But no matter how strong this belief of mine is, in democracies what is done is what the majority democratically decides, and not what I want.


You hypocrite, your despot arrogant and rude interations with Bananiot were read by all on the forum, how soon you forget, a sorry I was wrong would have proved you were a better person but you I see you find it very difficult to do the right thing. DT I was for papdop as he woudl have given us a btter chance to agreed divsion as he was valued in the world to want a fair solution.


???? With Bananiot I supported my opinion as I always do and as I will continue doing. What is hypocritical in this? And to say sorry about what? For making my democratic choice in the elections??? :roll:


You are hypocrite today not for supporting your belief but for not accepting you were wrong and that the GCs wud not support your idol.


32 % did support him and we respect them for that. Thats democracy VP.
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Postby humanist » Sun Feb 17, 2008 11:34 pm

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Kasoulides has the abilities to guide the country forward. We need to leave the past behind and leave the politician of the past behind to move forward. Christofias and his communist ideology can not be trusted. he used to be against Europe , EUro, and is still againsty Nato.

Kasoulides will not sell anyone not the GCs and not the TCs but will unite both . He is not a far right supporter and certainly not a Nationalist. he represents the young generation and he will do everything possible to unite the country and the people.



Oh comon Michalis, I believe that you are kidding yourself my friend. Of course a party and a president is what their constituents make them. I am sorry but when I see pictures of party supporters parading the Greek flag in Cyprus an where the blue and white oversdows the RoC flag, I have reason for concern.

To put that in perspective my mother's brother was 18 years of age and was killed by the Turks in 74.

Blue and white flag to me represents strong links to Greece and what some amy refer to as Greek Cyprus. Enosis & EOKA B was the beginning of the end for our Island nation. Personally I hold that movement responsible for the destrucction of Cyprus, the oppenning gate for the Turks to invade Cyprus and ultimately the death of a young life in my family.

If Kasoulidis' suporters go on marching with Greek flags and the ethos that comes with that for example "I Kypros einai Elliniki". How exactly is that going to bring unification among our people, if in human nature, we adapted the thought them and us. If the Turkish speaking population reacts with the notion well if they are going to brand the Greek flag and their president allows that we are going to brand the Turkish flag, how is that going to bring about unification.

I was in Cyprus in October / Novemebr of last year and Kasoulidis did not have a clear direction of the Cypro (an issue that concerns me more than the economy, for the reason stated above). His economic views were very entreupaneurial and that is good for the economy but the national issue is also a major concern,

I wish to take a little more time to extend on that because it will give you a better understanding where my coments arise from. and that is I believe that Cyprus is the home of all Cypriots irrespective of their linguistic, ethnic or religious backgrounds, TC & GC & Maronites, Armenians, Jews all have land and property ownership in Limasol Paphos Larnaca Kyrenia Amohostos and everywhere else, and I believe that they all have the right to acces to that and the freedom to move freely within their country use and manipulate their wealth and property any which way they like. Now the TC's have become separatists for various reasons mostly right and justifiable, however this does not give them the right to benefit on the expense of 200,000 of their compatriots any president that compromises the rights of those 200,000 (affected directly) not to mention the 0ther 600, 000 (affected directly and indirectly) people for the benefit of 80,000 separatists is not a leader with vision and fairness.

My concern thought is the allignemtnt of Kasoulids and his party with Greece and the impact this will have on Cyprus.
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Postby Viewpoint » Sun Feb 17, 2008 11:38 pm

DT. wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
Piratis wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
Piratis wrote:
What have you got to say about the GCs rejecting your idol?


Each Cypriot (Greek Cypriots, Armenian Cypriots, Latin Cypriots, Maronite Cypriots, law obeying Turkish Cypriots etc) cast their vote, one person one vote as true democracy is, and therefore their decision is fully respected.

Papadopoulos is not my "idol", just the person that I believe was far better than the other 2 options available. But no matter how strong this belief of mine is, in democracies what is done is what the majority democratically decides, and not what I want.


You hypocrite, your despot arrogant and rude interations with Bananiot were read by all on the forum, how soon you forget, a sorry I was wrong would have proved you were a better person but you I see you find it very difficult to do the right thing. DT I was for papdop as he woudl have given us a btter chance to agreed divsion as he was valued in the world to want a fair solution.


???? With Bananiot I supported my opinion as I always do and as I will continue doing. What is hypocritical in this? And to say sorry about what? For making my democratic choice in the elections??? :roll:


You are hypocrite today not for supporting your belief but for not accepting you were wrong and that the GCs wud not support your idol.


32 % did support him and we respect them for that. Thats democracy VP.


Accepting you ere wrong is also respectingothers wishes, Piratis and Kifeas were 101% arrogantly certain the their idol woudl have no prlbmes winning, why cant they just accept they were totally wrong and that the majority of GCs do not support him?
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Postby cymart » Sun Feb 17, 2008 11:40 pm

The best day in Cyprus for over 5 years!Oranos maybe right after all with his forecast last year....We could be walking on Varosha beach this summer!
I just hope that Talat(and Ankara) will reciprocate because I also believe that Cassoulides is sincere about solving this problem and will show that he means business very soon!
Even if Christophias wins it will still be better than the misery and darkness we have suffered since 2003!!

Thank God the majority of Greek-Cypriots have woken up to the truth about Papad. and his lies and fantasies!
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Postby Piratis » Sun Feb 17, 2008 11:52 pm

Accepting you ere wrong is also respectingothers wishes, Piratis and Kifeas were 101% arrogantly certain the their idol woudl have no prlbmes winning, why cant they just accept they were totally wrong and that the majority of GCs do not support him?


VP, in elections everybody says that they will win. If they don't believe they will win, then what is the point of being a candidate.

Yes, I was wrong in my prediction about these elections, and I made a whole post in order to congratulate the ones who past to the second round:

http://www.cyprus-forum.com/viewtopic.php?t=16003
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Postby Viewpoint » Mon Feb 18, 2008 12:00 am

Piratis wrote:
Accepting you ere wrong is also respectingothers wishes, Piratis and Kifeas were 101% arrogantly certain the their idol woudl have no prlbmes winning, why cant they just accept they were totally wrong and that the majority of GCs do not support him?


VP, in elections everybody says that they will win. If they don't believe they will win, then what is the point of being a candidate.

Yes, I was wrong in my prediction about these elections, and I made a whole post in order to congratulate the ones who past to the second round:

http://www.cyprus-forum.com/viewtopic.php?t=16003


Thank you.
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Postby michalis5354 » Mon Feb 18, 2008 12:02 am

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Oh comon Michalis, I believe that you are kidding yourself my friend. Of course a party and a president is what their constituents make them. I am sorry but when I see pictures of party supporters parading the Greek flag in Cyprus an where the blue and white oversdows the RoC flag, I have reason for concern.

To put that in perspective my mother's brother was 18 years of age and was killed by the Turks in 74.

Blue and white flag to me represents strong links to Greece and what some amy refer to as Greek Cyprus. Enosis & EOKA B was the beginning of the end for our Island nation. Personally I hold that movement responsible for the destrucction of Cyprus, the oppenning gate for the Turks to invade Cyprus and ultimately the death of a young life in my family.

If Kasoulidis' suporters go on marching with Greek flags and the ethos that comes with that for example "I Kypros einai Elliniki". How exactly is that going to bring unification among our people, if in human nature, we adapted the thought them and us. If the Turkish speaking population reacts with the notion well if they are going to brand the Greek flag and their president allows that we are going to brand the Turkish flag, how is that going to bring about unification.

I was in Cyprus in October / Novemebr of last year and Kasoulidis did not have a clear direction of the Cypro (an issue that concerns me more than the economy, for the reason stated above). His economic views were very entreupaneurial and that is good for the economy but the national issue is also a major concern,

I wish to take a little more time to extend on that because it will give you a better understanding where my coments arise from. and that is I believe that Cyprus is the home of all Cypriots irrespective of their linguistic, ethnic or religious backgrounds, TC & GC & Maronites, Armenians, Jews all have land and property ownership in Limasol Paphos Larnaca Kyrenia Amohostos and everywhere else, and I believe that they all have the right to acces to that and the freedom to move freely within their country use and manipulate their wealth and property any which way they like. Now the TC's have become separatists for various reasons mostly right and justifiable, however this does not give them the right to benefit on the expense of 200,000 of their compatriots any president that compromises the rights of those 200,000 (affected directly) not to mention the 0ther 600, 000 (affected directly and indirectly) people for the benefit of 80,000 separatists is not a leader with vision and fairness.

My concern thought is the allignemtnt of Kasoulids and his party with Greece and the impact this will have on Cyprus.


Humanist you are very right on your estimations and sorry to hear your past experiences. I am also against the Greek flags flying on Kasoulides Campaign and also I support an independent National Anthem to replace the current one. But as a voter it seems that I did not have any other choice / alternative to choose from. I feel exactly the same as yourself when I see any greek identity in Cyprus. No other president so far not Papadopoulos not Vasiliou not Kyprianou has taken any step to replace the Greek flags on the island.

In fact Christofias has a stronger Cypriot Idenity BUT his communist Ideology,. rememebr he used to be against Europe , Euro adoption he is still against Nato . How can this man be trusted ? I was very skeptical . Initially as I was considering this choice but then my mind has changed for Kasoulides who was younger and more willing to propose changes for the benefit of the country who is already a memebr of EU. Rememeber I voted for Europe , West, Young Generation of politicians and NOT GREECE and Greek Flags In fact I have an allergy on Greek flags .

Any solution that will be proposed will be put on a referendum so why all this fear that Kasoulides will sell the country this is an utopia. People will vote for any plan and If people do not like the plan clearly they will reject it.

Also Papadopoulos has not taken any decision after the referendum towards the Cyprus issue. Does nt this make you worry ? Has Papadopoulos No vote eliminate the Turkish troops? the settelrs? has anyone refugee retuned after the No Vote? So the No vote was nt a success either as nothing has happened since referendum. This of course has made many TCs to Choose Turkey than Cyprus and made many of them to believe on Partition as the only viable solution .
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