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[cymart]

Castro resigned in Cuba yesterday but it looks like one of his followers is about to take over our banana plantation!Well at least the church is backing Cass. but is that a good sign or will it help him lose on Sunday???

[DT.]

Castro resigned in Cuba yesterday but it looks like one of his followers is about to take over our banana plantation!Well at least the church is backing Cass. but is that a good sign or will it help him lose on Sunday???

Its really pissed off Christofias so it must be good.

[Oracle]

DT, my friend congratulations on the win of your preferred party. I hope that you are involved in the party decision making because it would appear that kasoulides will take the easy road out and settle for a less than viable solution. Well whatever he does I hope he will honor two things

A/ Turkey out of Cyprus 100%
B/ Demilitarised Cyprus for ever - no need for more deaths



Zito I KYPROS

Humanist ,
don't forget the Greek Troops and pontus Greeks as well to get out from Cyprus.
Also warn roc that they are offering military bases to french in paphos.
don't ever forget the otherside of the coin. otherwise you can't be Humanist.
You will be maskara................

Can't resist telling us what to do, huh! 400 years of natural selection of the most recalcitrant of the Ottomans, that's what we have inherited with which to share our island ........

Shame us into turning our backs on people you do not want around, and get us to do your dirty work of racially selecting people for removal from our shores ... so that the Turks can inherit the Earth and all that's in it ...

[bilako22]

The Turks have as much right to live in Cyprus as you Greeks . Get over it .

[miltiades]

DT, my friend congratulations on the win of your preferred party. I hope that you are involved in the party decision making because it would appear that kasoulides will take the easy road out and settle for a less than viable solution. Well whatever he does I hope he will honor two things

A/ Turkey out of Cyprus 100%
B/ Demilitarised Cyprus for ever - no need for more deaths



Zito I KYPROS

Humanist ,
don't forget the Greek Troops and pontus Greeks as well to get out from Cyprus.
Also warn roc that they are offering military bases to french in paphos.
don't ever forget the otherside of the coin. otherwise you can't be Humanist.
You will be maskara................

Can't resist telling us what to do, huh! 400 years of natural selection of the most recalcitrant of the Ottomans, that's what we have inherited with which to share our island ........

Shame us into turning our backs on people you do not want around, and get us to do your dirty work of racially selecting people for removal from our shores ... so that the Turks can inherit the Earth and all that's in it ...

Halil is absolutely correct. We moan about the Anatolian settlers and yet we dare not ask if the T/Cs are happy with the Pontian gypsies , and gypsies they are. In Paphos , before they arrived , crime , theft and burglary was practically non existent . why on earth allow these so called "Greeks " to spoil our shores. The T/Cs are part of Cyprus , these gypsies are no more a part of Cyprus than the Anatoliam settlers.There are two sides to a coin , we ought to look at both !
I also agree with Halil that the Greek army ought to go away , and Im sure that he too would endorse that the Turkish army , circumstances permitting ought to also go away !!
See you soon Halil , and Oracle , if your still talking to me that is !

[Oracle]

The Turks have as much right to live in Cyprus as you Greeks . Get over it .

Live maybe ...

OCCUPY ....... NO WAY!

[Oracle]

DT, my friend congratulations on the win of your preferred party. I hope that you are involved in the party decision making because it would appear that kasoulides will take the easy road out and settle for a less than viable solution. Well whatever he does I hope he will honor two things

A/ Turkey out of Cyprus 100%
B/ Demilitarised Cyprus for ever - no need for more deaths



Zito I KYPROS

Humanist ,
don't forget the Greek Troops and pontus Greeks as well to get out from Cyprus.
Also warn roc that they are offering military bases to french in paphos.
don't ever forget the otherside of the coin. otherwise you can't be Humanist.
You will be maskara................

Can't resist telling us what to do, huh! 400 years of natural selection of the most recalcitrant of the Ottomans, that's what we have inherited with which to share our island ........

Shame us into turning our backs on people you do not want around, and get us to do your dirty work of racially selecting people for removal from our shores ... so that the Turks can inherit the Earth and all that's in it ...

Halil is absolutely correct. We moan about the Anatolian settlers and yet we dare not ask if the T/Cs are happy with the Pontian gypsies , and gypsies they are. In Paphos , before they arrived , crime , theft and burglary was practically non existent . why on earth allow these so called "Greeks " to spoil our shores. The T/Cs are part of Cyprus , these gypsies are no more a part of Cyprus than the Anatoliam settlers.There are two sides to a coin , we ought to look at both !
I also agree with Halil that the Greek army ought to go away , and Im sure that he too would endorse that the Turkish army , circumstances permitting ought to also go away !!
See you soon Halil , and Oracle , if your still talking to me that is !

Miltiades; Halil is acting like a racist and you are wearing rose-tinted spectacles.

[cymart]

These people are mostly citizens of southern Russia and former Soviet Union countries who were allowed to emigrate to Greece initially when they could prove ancestry from that country after the Communist system ended there.They were often very poor and initially took jobs in agriculture in northern Greece but many who were from cities went to Thessaloniki etc.In the early 90's in Paphos there was a big shortage of labour for the booming construction industry so the former foreign minister George Iacovou who was president of an association for diaspora Greeks allowed them to come here!I worked with the local agent of a Russian airline from Krasnodar here and every Thursday a plane used to arrive packed with them!Of course they soon found ways to dissapear in Paphos,as well as bringing over their relatives and had no intention of leaving!There are now about 15.000 of them in this area alone,many of whom have mainland Greek passports and are therefore legal E.U. citizens!Of course they are well aware of this and you cannot do anything to them unless they break the law!In all fairness, a lot of them are people who had qualified professions at home but now end up accepting manual jobs which Cypriots don't want such as cleaners,hotel workers and supermarket girls etc and many of the women are quite decent and respectable.When the men don't have work,they drink and quarrrel and this is where the problems start,usually about money etc.But who is to blame and who let them come here in the first place to a small town where they now outnumber the locals???

[meganecc]

i think christophias would be better president then Kassoulides

Christofias was In Cuba a couple of months ago with a common statement released with Fidel Castro saying we have a common enemy in the USA.

How many centuries do we want to go back?

AGAPITE FILE APLA 8A SOU DWSW KAPIES SIMEIWSEIS APO TOUS ISTORIKOUS GIA TO 8EMA TOU PRA3IKOPIMATOS K TIS EISVOLIS STI KYPRO!!

Επί τρεις δεκαετίες ο μαέστρος της ρεαλπολιτίκ επαναλαμβάνει αυτούς τους ισχυρισμούς, ενώ στα απομνημονεύματά του έχει φθάσει μέχρι και να υποστηρίξει ότι «η έκρηξη στο νησί έγινε μια στιγμή που κανείς δεν την περίμενε, ούτε ο ίδιος ο Μακάριος, στις 15 Ιουλίου 1974». Τα εκατοντάδες έγγραφα, ωστόσο, τα οποία αποχαρακτήρισε και έδωσε στη δημοσιότητα πριν από δύο ημέρες το Στέιτ Ντιπάρτμεντ, καταρρίπτουν ένα προς ένα τα ψεύδη του Κίσινγκερ. Η Ουάσιγκτον γνώριζε από πολύ νωρίς τις κινήσεις του στρατηγού Γρίβα, ηγέτη της ΕΟΚΑ Β, ο οποίος σε συνεργασία με τη χούντα της Αθήνας σχεδίασε το πραξικόπημα της 15ης Ιουλίου εναντίον του Μακαρίου. Σημειώνεται ότι από προηγούμενες πληροφορίες ήταν ήδη γνωστό στην Ουάσιγκτον ότι ο Δ. Ιωαννίδης είχε δηλώσει πως θα μπορούσε να ξεφορτωθεί το Μακάριο μέσα σε 24 ώρες όποτε ήθελε.

Παραλήρημα Ιωαννίδη κατά Μακαρίου
«Ο ΙΩΑΝΝΙΔΗΣ κυριολεκτικά εξερράγη, χτύπησε πάνω σε ένα τραπέζι, έσπασε ένα ποτήρι και άρχισε να βρίζει».
Ήταν η αρχική αντίδραση του Δ. Ιωαννίδη, όταν η αμερικανική πρεσβεία τού διαβίβασε μήνυμα για αυτοσυγκράτηση στις 16 Ιουλίου. «Κάποια μέρα οι ΗΠΑ θα καταλάβουν ότι στις 15 Ιουλίου 1974, η Κύπρος σώθηκε από τα χέρια των κομμουνιστών», φέρεται να είπε, σύμφωνα με τον Αμερικανό πρέσβη, ο Ιωαννίδης, ο οποίος μάλιστα χαρακτήρισε το Μακάριο «σάπιο ομοφυλόφιλο παπά», «διεστραμμένο» και «βασανιστή». Στη συνέχεια «εξερράγη πάλι, χτύπησε πάλι το τραπέζι, κουνούσε τα χέρια του, έσπασε ένα δεύτερο ποτήρι και βρίζοντας δήλωσε ότι δεν σχεδίασε αυτός το πραξικόπημα αλλά Κύπριοι εθνικιστές».
Όταν τον ρώτησαν αν οι Έλληνες μιλούν απευθείας με τους Τούρκους, απάντησε πως όχι, αλλά ότι οι Τούρκοι δεν τον ενοχλούσαν και ότι θα ήταν πρόθυμος να μοιραστεί μαζί τους τα κέρδη από κοινή επιχείρηση πετρελαίου! Συνεχίζοντας το παραλήρημά του εξέφρασε την εκτίμηση ότι «σε ένα ή σε δέκα χρόνια οι Τούρκοι θα πουλήσουν το μερίδιό τους στην Κύπρο για να έχουν περισσότερα δικαιώματα στο πετρέλαιο». Η συνάντηση έκλεισε με τον Ιωαννίδη να υπεραμύνεται του πραξικοπήματος της 15ης Ιουλίου, λέγοντας ότι άφησε το «φιλότιμό» του να υπερισχύσει της λογικής προκειμένου να βοηθήσει τους Κυπρίους!

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(SIMIOSI OTI TA TELEFTAIA EGRAFA P EXOUN STA XERIA TOUS OI ISTORIKOI TA PARALAVAN PRIN APO 2 MINES) AFTOI AGAPITE FILE DEN MAS PERNEI XRONIA PISW! MAS 8IMIZEI PIOI EINAI OI AITIA POU EIMASTE MIRASMENOI

[DT.]

i think christophias would be better president then Kassoulides

Christofias was In Cuba a couple of months ago with a common statement released with Fidel Castro saying we have a common enemy in the USA.

How many centuries do we want to go back?

AGAPITE FILE APLA 8A SOU DWSW KAPIES SIMEIWSEIS APO TOUS ISTORIKOUS GIA TO 8EMA TOU PRA3IKOPIMATOS K TIS EISVOLIS STI KYPRO!!

Επί τρεις δεκαετίες ο μαέστρος της ρεαλπολιτίκ επαναλαμβάνει αυτούς τους ισχυρισμούς, ενώ στα απομνημονεύματά του έχει φθάσει μέχρι και να υποστηρίξει ότι «η έκρηξη στο νησί έγινε μια στιγμή που κανείς δεν την περίμενε, ούτε ο ίδιος ο Μακάριος, στις 15 Ιουλίου 1974». Τα εκατοντάδες έγγραφα, ωστόσο, τα οποία αποχαρακτήρισε και έδωσε στη δημοσιότητα πριν από δύο ημέρες το Στέιτ Ντιπάρτμεντ, καταρρίπτουν ένα προς ένα τα ψεύδη του Κίσινγκερ. Η Ουάσιγκτον γνώριζε από πολύ νωρίς τις κινήσεις του στρατηγού Γρίβα, ηγέτη της ΕΟΚΑ Β, ο οποίος σε συνεργασία με τη χούντα της Αθήνας σχεδίασε το πραξικόπημα της 15ης Ιουλίου εναντίον του Μακαρίου. Σημειώνεται ότι από προηγούμενες πληροφορίες ήταν ήδη γνωστό στην Ουάσιγκτον ότι ο Δ. Ιωαννίδης είχε δηλώσει πως θα μπορούσε να ξεφορτωθεί το Μακάριο μέσα σε 24 ώρες όποτε ήθελε.

Firstly the language of this forum is ENglish.
Secondly the year is 2008 and Kissinger is not in govt.
Thirdly due to the US responsibilites in encuraging and staging a coup you suggest we complete the puzzle by telling the only remaining superpower to f*** off?