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[Piratis]

Bilmukabil. Piratis, Bilmukabil. (likewise, Piratis , Likewise)

See, we agree because what I say makes perfect sense. You wouldn't want as a friend somebody who doesn't respect your human and democratic rights, and I wouldn't either.

Exactly, but my point was, as I pointed out that you can not bear to utter the words 'Turkish Cypriot compatriots, friends and brothers'. Just having two brothers and not acknowledging their Turkish Cypriotness will not get you far.

Regards

Why should I say somehting that it is not true? Today the majority of TCs support the violation of my human and democratic rights and the stealing of our land. That obviously doesn't put TCs as a whole in the "friends and brothers" category. Of course there is a minority of TCs that does respect our human and democratic rights and who doesn't want to steal our land, and those are people that I can call friends. That is why I mentioned the names of Bir and Kikapu.

Many more would have been added to your list, including mine had not the GCs tried their best to deprive us of what you want.

denizaksulu, although the Turks have deprived us from our freedom and human rights for centuries, and although Turkish troops occupy our homes as we speak, that is not a reason to not want as a friend anybody with Turkish ehtnic background. If that was the case then I wouldn't want Kikapu or Bir as friends either just because of their race. That would be called racism.

What I do is to see how each individual treats me and others. If that individual respects me, then I will respect him too. If that individual is friendly toward me then I will be friendly toward him too, regardless of his race, ethnic background, gender or anything else.

So if you want to disrespect me and not be my friend because in some past decade you had some conflict with some other GCs, then the choice not to be my friend is yours, not mine.

[zan]

whoooooosh!!!

[denizaksulu]

Bilmukabil. Piratis, Bilmukabil. (likewise, Piratis , Likewise)

See, we agree because what I say makes perfect sense. You wouldn't want as a friend somebody who doesn't respect your human and democratic rights, and I wouldn't either.

Exactly, but my point was, as I pointed out that you can not bear to utter the words 'Turkish Cypriot compatriots, friends and brothers'. Just having two brothers and not acknowledging their Turkish Cypriotness will not get you far.

Regards

Why should I say somehting that it is not true? Today the majority of TCs support the violation of my human and democratic rights and the stealing of our land. That obviously doesn't put TCs as a whole in the "friends and brothers" category. Of course there is a minority of TCs that does respect our human and democratic rights and who doesn't want to steal our land, and those are people that I can call friends. That is why I mentioned the names of Bir and Kikapu.

Many more would have been added to your list, including mine had not the GCs tried their best to deprive us of what you want.

denizaksulu, although the Turks have deprived us from our freedom and human rights for centuries, and although Turkish troops occupy our homes as we speak, that is not a reason to not want as a friend anybody with Turkish ehtnic background. If that was the case then I wouldn't want Kikapu or Bir as friends either just because of their race. That would be called racism.

What I do is to see how each individual treats me and others. If that individual respects me, then I will respect him too. If that individual is friendly toward me then I will be friendly toward him too, regardless of his race, ethnic background, gender or anything else.

So if you want to disrespect me and not be my friend because in some past decade you had some conflict with some other GCs, then the choice not to be my friend is yours, not mine.

My words are lost on you. I think you are depressed and need to get some sleep. It will do you good. If by reminding you of what happened a few decades ago is disrespectful, you better stop reminding us of 1571 onwards.
Goodnight and get some 'shut eye'.

[Kifeas]

The people of Cyprus have spoken. Five years of darkness, five years of depressive recession to the ice age are over. You can all breath a breath of fresh air. Papadopoulos is no more. He is going home. For good!

"Five years of darkness, five years of depressive recession to the ice age ..."

Who else other than a pervert and /or a schizoid would have possibly spelled the above!

Soon -when everyone will realize who the real obstacles to a solution are, I will make you eat your words in this forum! Pervert!

[BirKibrisli]

Bilmukabil. Piratis, Bilmukabil. (likewise, Piratis , Likewise)

See, we agree because what I say makes perfect sense. You wouldn't want as a friend somebody who doesn't respect your human and democratic rights, and I wouldn't either.

Exactly, but my point was, as I pointed out that you can not bear to utter the words 'Turkish Cypriot compatriots, friends and brothers'. Just having two brothers and not acknowledging their Turkish Cypriotness will not get you far.

Regards

Why should I say somehting that it is not true? Today the majority of TCs support the violation of my human and democratic rights and the stealing of our land. That obviously doesn't put TCs as a whole in the "friends and brothers" category. Of course there is a minority of TCs that does respect our human and democratic rights and who doesn't want to steal our land, and those are people that I can call friends. That is why I mentioned the names of Bir and Kikapu.

All stand:

Do you Piratis, take Kikapolous and Bir as your lawful wedded friends......
Even though they have hold of your lands!!!!





Do you Kikapolous and Br take Piratis as your lawful wedded friend.....
Even though he has your country and your constitution!!!!




With the power vested in me....I now pronounce you friends......You may kiss my arse!

Zan...I think something has certainly gone to your head...Or you would not invite Piratis,Kikapu,and myself anywhere near your arse...

Kissing it would be the last thing on our minds...


You are so painfully short sighted. Any solution based on ethnicity which will make the majority of the Cypriot nation feel well and truly screwed (to stay with the spirit of this post ) will only be a prelude to more pain and suffering,even if you do manage to impose a solution unacceptable to the majority in the short term...The only truly lasting and just solution can only be achieved if we all embraced our Cypriotness ahead of our ethnic ties...That is why the overwhelming presence of the Greek flags in the winner's camp today gives me reason for concern...

But I am willing to give the new President the benefit of the doubt...If it is Kassoulides he will need to play down the Hellenic card,and work very hard to make more converts to the True Cypriots camp...We will then see if Turkey will really allow any solution in Cyprus apart from the status quo...The fat lady has not sung yet. She has not even appeared on the stage!!!

[zan]

Bilmukabil. Piratis, Bilmukabil. (likewise, Piratis , Likewise)

See, we agree because what I say makes perfect sense. You wouldn't want as a friend somebody who doesn't respect your human and democratic rights, and I wouldn't either.

Exactly, but my point was, as I pointed out that you can not bear to utter the words 'Turkish Cypriot compatriots, friends and brothers'. Just having two brothers and not acknowledging their Turkish Cypriotness will not get you far.

Regards

Why should I say somehting that it is not true? Today the majority of TCs support the violation of my human and democratic rights and the stealing of our land. That obviously doesn't put TCs as a whole in the "friends and brothers" category. Of course there is a minority of TCs that does respect our human and democratic rights and who doesn't want to steal our land, and those are people that I can call friends. That is why I mentioned the names of Bir and Kikapu.

All stand:

Do you Piratis, take Kikapolous and Bir as your lawful wedded friends......
Even though they have hold of your lands!!!!





Do you Kikapolous and Br take Piratis as your lawful wedded friend.....
Even though he has your country and your constitution!!!!




With the power vested in me....I now pronounce you friends......You may kiss my arse!

Zan...I think something has certainly gone to your head...Or you would not invite Piratis,Kikapu,and myself anywhere near your arse...

Kissing it would be the last thing on our minds...


You are so painfully short sighted. Any solution based on ethnicity which will make the majority of the Cypriot nation feel well and truly screwed (to stay with the spirit of this post ) will only be a prelude to more pain and suffering,even if you do manage to impose a solution unacceptable to the majority in the short term...The only truly lasting and just solution can only be achieved if we all embraced our Cypriotness ahead of our ethnic ties...That is why the overwhelming presence of the Greek flags in the winner's camp today gives me reason for concern...

But I am willing to give the new President the benefit of the doubt...If it is Kassoulides he will need to play down the Hellenic card,and work very hard to make more converts to the True Cypriots camp...We will then see if Turkey will really allow any solution in Cyprus apart from the status quo...The fat lady has not sung yet. She has not even appeared on the stage!!!

Don't worry my friend.....It seems that the tables are turned and I can safely say that love will conquer all....It is you that is now being negative..Why would anyone (Over 60% of the south) feel hard done by if they just voted Tpap out...Do you want what the majority want or not

Don't worry though..I am not celebrating just yet!!!!

[Numbers]

Well I don't know what TV station you were watching but I saw lots of Cyprus flags. OK there were Greek ones too but maybe that's because Disyites are not controlled from the centre as much as Akelites ...?

On that topic, is it true that academics were told by Akel "support us publicly or else"? If true, how's that for freedom of speech???

In my opinion the extreme right will be the party that does a deal with Diko.

[SN]

OLEEEEE!!!!!!!!


Fuck TPap...it was about time.

What is wrong Kifeas,piratis and all the victims of Hellenism???Ta vapsame maura?...Ton mpoulo o Tassos sas..Stin psihra kiolas ante xekolate twra mipws k xestravothite na to lisete to Kypriako

[Bananiot]

I agree, DIKO has been the extremist party, especially under the leadership of Papadopoulos. Having said this, I accept that there are people in DIKO who were swept away by the arrogance of people such as Papadopoulos, Koulias and Pittokopitis. I am sure there are decent people in this party that can get their voice back now and play a positive role in the efforts to find a solution. The same can be said of EDEK but EUROKO I am not sure, especially as far as their leadership goes.

Now, the worse service one can do to Cyprus at this time is to fanatise people about the prospect of finalising a deal with the Turkish Cypriots and Turkey. If we start with the assumption that nothing can be done because the Turks will not cooperate we might as well sign and seal the ill fate of our country. This is a cynical, totally wrong approach.

The right attitude is to work in good faith with our present day adversaries and tomorrow's partners in order to show to each other that together we can do it. Some people are saying that their aim in life is to prove that the other side is not willing to compromise. How is this going to help? Even if this is so, one cannot stop but continue to try. Things do not come easy in this world. We need staying power. Otherwise, we would all come to the tragic conclusion that we have only two options in front of us. Bloodshed or partition.

[-mikkie2-]

Bananiot,

Even though I am glad Papadopoulos is gone we still have major problems to overcome. Turkey will still do her best to achieve her aims in Cyprus. And she will continue to pursue those aims. The new president NEEDS to do two things.

1. Gain the confidence of the TC community by making openings towards them and by engaging the politicians in the north that wish to see a solution for a common Cypriot homeland for Cypriots.

2. To show to Europe that if Turkey wants to consider herself a European country, that she needs to act in a European way in Cyrpus. If Turkey wants to show this she needs to allow a solution in Cyprus which SHOWS and PROVES that the muslim world and the christian world can coexist, not side by side, but together. And to give less ammuntion to the countries that are against EU membership. Basically we need to put Turkey in the spotlight. I sincerely hope that Kasoulides will deliver as I think he will win the run-off.

So really, its not good enough to view the situation in Cyprus as just the fault of Papadopoulos because it always takes two to tango.