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BYE-BYE DOPOULOS: FIVE YEARS OF DARKNESS OVER

How can we solve it? (keep it civilized)

Postby Oracle » Sun Feb 17, 2008 11:19 pm

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Viewpoint wrote:Well done Bananiot you got it right Papdop is out and you were very wrong Piratis and following time to apologise, if you are big enough to admit how wrong you were.


A fresh beginning towards the ending of the Turkish Empire in Europe .... :evil:

Go New President ...... Target Turkish Troops to Trounce from our Terrain.


No is disputing that the Turkish army will go once we have agreed all the elements to an overall solution, we do not want to be exposed to any trouble or mayhem.


Well this is truly the dawning of a new era ... VP has acknowledged the Turkish troops will have to go ... :shock:

Or is it because of the Kosovo worry .... that Turkey will be forced to give the "TRNC" back to the RoC anyway ... :?
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Postby denizaksulu » Sun Feb 17, 2008 11:20 pm

Bananiot wrote:Anastasiades has played a major role in the downfall of Papadopoulos. However, had Christofias not stood as a candidate, Papadopoulos would have won hands down. Anastasiades has shown himself to be a real statesman, perhaps the best in Cyprus. He does not mince his words and he is very honest. He always tells his opinion without a regard for any political cost. He supported the solution in 2004 despite strong inter party opposition. He leads the people rather than be led by the people.

Kasoulides, Anastasiades and Christofias should work for a compromise solution because we are faced by partition. I will not site the obvious shortcomings of partition but this time I will tell the cynics of another, more important reason, why partition must be avoided at all costs.

I long to live in a free and united Cyprus with my Turkish Cypriot compatriots, friends and brothers, as equal partners. The Cyprus I long for is a multi cultural, multi ethnic country, a bridge of friendship between Greece and Turkey. We should forget the past and look to a happy, bright future, within our united Europe. Papadopoulos constantly spread fear into the soul of people and tried to turn them into phobic and spineless creatures. Those of us that stood against him and his methods were ridiculed and warned, even, that we stood to lose our jobs and dignity, because "he was the elected lord and no one had the right to question him". Thank God this mentality is over now and we can breath the fresh air of change.

Piratis and Kifeas and the rest of Papadopoulos's supporters. You can criticise the new President for as much as you like. I have no problem with this. Criticism is health and this is what has contributed to the improvement of the human race. I will never tell you to stop expressing your opinion because you are in the minority. I think, this is the time to talk louder, if you felt like it.



Bananiot, I welcome your words. I hope the new president will see it your way and not having won the election just follow in Tpapas train. Lets hope you are right.
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Postby DT. » Sun Feb 17, 2008 11:20 pm

Bananiot wrote:Anastasiades has played a major role in the downfall of Papadopoulos. However, had Christofias not stood as a candidate, Papadopoulos would have won hands down. Anastasiades has shown himself to be a real statesman, perhaps the best in Cyprus. He does not mince his words and he is very honest. He always tells his opinion without a regard for any political cost. He supported the solution in 2004 despite strong inter party opposition. He leads the people rather than be led by the people.

Kasoulides, Anastasiades and Christofias should work for a compromise solution because we are faced by partition. I will not site the obvious shortcomings of partition but this time I will tell the cynics of another, more important reason, why partition must be avoided at all costs.

I long to live in a free and united Cyprus with my Turkish Cypriot compatriots, friends and brothers, as equal partners. The Cyprus I long for is a multi cultural, multi ethnic country, a bridge of friendship between Greece and Turkey. We should forget the past and look to a happy, bright future, within our united Europe. Papadopoulos constantly spread fear into the soul of people and tried to turn them into phobic and spineless creatures. Those of us that stood against him and his methods were ridiculed and warned, even, that we stood to lose our jobs and dignity, because "he was the elected lord and no one had the right to question him". Thank God this mentality is over now and we can breath the fresh air of change.

Piratis and Kifeas and the rest of Papadopoulos's supporters. You can criticise the new President for as much as you like. I have no problem with this. Criticism is health and this is what has contributed to the improvement of the human race. I will never tell you to stop expressing your opinion because you are in the minority. I think, this is the time to talk louder, if you felt like it.


If Kassoulides wins and presents Cyprus with anything like the AP, then I'll be shoving that vote i gave him somewhere else.

He has committed himself to a vote from the people whatever the proposed solution is. He has also committed himself to finding out first what kind of a solution are we GC's willing to live with first before we present it to Turkey.
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Postby Bananiot » Sun Feb 17, 2008 11:23 pm

There is only one thing DT. If we finally accept that the Turkish Cypriot community is politically equal to us then nothing can stand in the way of solution.
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Postby Bananiot » Sun Feb 17, 2008 11:23 pm

Goodnight folks, its been a long day. Off to bed now.
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Postby Viewpoint » Sun Feb 17, 2008 11:24 pm

Oracle wrote:
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Viewpoint wrote:Well done Bananiot you got it right Papdop is out and you were very wrong Piratis and following time to apologise, if you are big enough to admit how wrong you were.


A fresh beginning towards the ending of the Turkish Empire in Europe .... :evil:

Go New President ...... Target Turkish Troops to Trounce from our Terrain.


No is disputing that the Turkish army will go once we have agreed all the elements to an overall solution, we do not want to be exposed to any trouble or mayhem.


Well this is truly the dawning of a new era ... VP has acknowledged the Turkish troops will have to go ... :shock:

Or is it because of the Kosovo worry .... that Turkey will be forced to give the "TRNC" back to the RoC anyway ... :?


When have I said the Turkish army will not go, we are aware thy are you red line and a sensative issue but this only be possible when we agree an overall solution where our safety will be guaranteed to our satisfaction.
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Postby DT. » Sun Feb 17, 2008 11:25 pm

Bananiot wrote:There is only one thing DT. If we finally accept that the Turkish Cypriot community is politically equal to us then nothing can stand in the way of solution.


Iceman is equal to me. I have one vote and so should he.
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Postby Piratis » Sun Feb 17, 2008 11:46 pm

Bananiot wrote:Anastasiades has played a major role in the downfall of Papadopoulos. However, had Christofias not stood as a candidate, Papadopoulos would have won hands down. Anastasiades has shown himself to be a real statesman, perhaps the best in Cyprus. He does not mince his words and he is very honest. He always tells his opinion without a regard for any political cost. He supported the solution in 2004 despite strong inter party opposition. He leads the people rather than be led by the people.


Why you didn't support Kasoulides then??

Kasoulides, Anastasiades and Christofias should work for a compromise solution because we are faced by partition. I will not site the obvious shortcomings of partition but this time I will tell the cynics of another, more important reason, why partition must be avoided at all costs.


I guess you had a different result in mind when you where preparing the above statement. Aparently the biggest losers of this first round of election is not Papadopoulos, but the fanatic "yes" supporters.

Christofias and Papadopoulos will work for a solution, just like they did during the past 4.5 years. That, or substitute Christofias for Kasoulides in the above sentence. As Christofias said in his speech today, a bad solution will bring partition.


I long to live in a free and united Cyprus with my Turkish Cypriot compatriots, friends and brothers, as equal partners. The Cyprus I long for is a multi cultural, multi ethnic country, a bridge of friendship between Greece and Turkey. We should forget the past and look to a happy, bright future, within our united Europe. Papadopoulos constantly spread fear into the soul of people and tried to turn them into phobic and spineless creatures. Those of us that stood against him and his methods were ridiculed and warned, even, that we stood to lose our jobs and dignity, because "he was the elected lord and no one had the right to question him". Thank God this mentality is over now and we can breath the fresh air of change.


Papadopoulos and the great majority of people want a united, peaceful, multi cultural, and multi ethnic country, but they also want a true democracy where all people will be equal without racist discriminations. If people didn't want this, then we wouldn't have elections and democracy today.

How would you feel Bananiot if DIKO which represents about 18% of the people, was given 50% of the power? How would you feel that although most people would have voted for somebody else, Papadopoulous would get to be the president anyways due to some undemocratic system? Do you think you would be able to calmly accept this?

Piratis and Kifeas and the rest of Papadopoulos's supporters. You can criticise the new President for as much as you like. I have no problem with this. Criticism is health and this is what has contributed to the improvement of the human race. I will never tell you to stop expressing your opinion because you are in the minority. I think, this is the time to talk louder, if you felt like it.


We will talk as loud as you talked. Nobody ever silenced you. At the same time though we will do one more thing that you didn't: We will respect the democratic choice of the Cypriot people and we will not try to destroy the whole of Cyprus out of bitterness just because the "stupid" Cypriots didn't do what we the "smart" ones told them to do.
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Postby -mikkie2- » Sun Feb 17, 2008 11:46 pm

Well, I for one am glad Papadopoulos is gone. Even though some people think he can influence the outcome of the run off I think that will not happen. Evroko supporters were originally spawned from DISY so they will most likely back Kasoulides and many DIKO supporters will also back him due to them being on the right wing as opposed to the left.

Personally, Kasoulides as president is a done deal. Christofias has no credibility considering how long he was with Papadopoulos in government.

I also think this will now finally stop the TC's and Turkey hiding behind Papadopoulos and the referendum vote and their true intentions will now become clear. If in the face of a more compromising president they continue to force the two state solution in Cyprus or a solution that is too far slanted in favour of Turkey, then things will be very different.

The next few months should be very interesting indeed.
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Postby cypezokyli » Mon Feb 18, 2008 12:18 am

good news.
just good news.
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